My Thoughts On Will76, LegendaryLars, And Teh Zangos. - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

MaddCaz · 11-16-2006, 07:48 PM

pic searching....

Pleasurepays · 11-16-2006, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MaddCaz

pic searching....

gay pics?

QuaWee · 11-16-2006, 07:49 PM

this thread is faggity

Jman · 11-16-2006, 07:49 PM

This is Hillarious in so many ways. LOLOLOL

Sly · 11-16-2006, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

What brokers will allow me to purchase timed pops from sites of my choosing without the sites operators receiving a cut or even approving the pop?

I have a new news site about Middle Eastern Affairs. I would like to purchase pops from CNN, Fox, and Al Jazeera.

Who can hook me up with a broker?

BoyAlley · 11-16-2006, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SureFire

BoyAlley,
What is a 'Gay HomoSexual' ?
Thanks in advance

The question isn't "WHAT is a gay homosexual".

It's "WHO is the gay homosexual".

And the answer is ME!

QuaWee · 11-16-2006, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars

Agreed a timed pop up has the same effect as adware pops. but was common practice among most if not all large paysite companies for years. where was will then ?

Mom: "Billy that's not right".

Billy: "But, Johnny does it".

polish_aristocrat · 11-16-2006, 07:53 PM

the food was terrible

will76 · 11-16-2006, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley

I understand what Will's argument is. And more importantly, I now understand why he's been making that argument so strongly for so long now.........

There are a LOT of things in this industry that effect an affiliates traffic. What about TGPs and the like that have popunders that are timed to pop over in x minutes in the future? What about huge programs that also run massive free youtube like porn sites handing out enormous amounts of free content?

The list of things that can be bitched about goes on and on, and I think Zango is proving to be of minuscule significance when it's all said and done with.

Zango is a tool for Will76 to raise the community's awareness of himself (kinda like how I play up the fag thing), and in turn, increase his own personal revenues to the projects that he runs, by getting people to jump off of the Good Ship Lars and jump onto his own personal rowboat.

So much for my intentions being a good reason, there has to be an alteramotive right ?

If I was a board whore I would have found another issue a long time ago to crying about.

Here is some info for you. I am not promoting anything. I keep missing the big sig in my banner. How am I " increasing my own personal revenue" from this?

If somoene who has contacted me in the last couple months about me helping them with clickcash is reading this please post what my reply to you was. I have turned down everyone who has contacted me. I have not made 1 penny from referral sales from this, muchless was I even promoting anything in the first place. I have made zero from this if you feel so strongly surely you can find 1 person who can say otherwise. Find 1 shread of proof that i have made 1 penny from this zango shit and I will stop posting now.

I await your reply.

BlackCrayon · 11-16-2006, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley

I've seen him mention on more than one occasion that he's had "private discussions" with "large AFF affiliates" and said they "won't be sending traffic to AFF anymore".

Will76 has a vested interest in seeing iFriends do well, that includes affiliates that he's able to recruit, and being able to damage any competition that they may have.

I think another thing this boils down to, is Lars' advertising with Zango is probably eating into iFriends' pockets directly, more so than eating into affiliates.

you'll see me bitching in a lot of the threads but i have nothing to gain, no program to promote. pop unders are very different, first off they pop UNDER. people usually won't see them until they close the window they are already looking at.second, its pretty obvious you've been talking to Lars and buying into what hes feeding you, so how is that any different than people buying into what will is saying? by your logic you're just a sheep on the other side of the fence.

jacklaidlaw · 11-16-2006, 07:54 PM

Andiz · 11-16-2006, 07:55 PM

LAWDS MERCY

Xenophage · 11-16-2006, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

you'll see me bitching in a lot of the threads but i have nothing to gain, no program to promote. pop unders are very different, first off they pop UNDER. people usually won't see them until they close the window they are already looking at.second, its pretty obvious you've been talking to Lars and buying into what hes feeding you, so how is that any different than people buying into what will is saying? by your logic you're just a sheep on the other side of the fence.

Actually untrue have not talked to BoyAlly on phone icq or email of any sort.

Will is pimping up his board presence, so he can be a bigshot, plain and simple his attacks on me and my company have gone above and beyond anything reasonable, and that was pointed out to me by a lot of people at teh trade show.

Xenophage · 11-16-2006, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jacklaidlaw

Reminds me of the Cum on lars campaign I used to run on GFY where ya hadda try to cum on me in a flash banner with a big dick hahahahahaahhaha

Sean · 11-16-2006, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jacklaidlaw

that is the greatest thing ever

Sly · 11-16-2006, 07:59 PM

How can one even compare Zango and TGPs or pop-unders?

Zango. Bid on keywords. When a person with Zango installed on their computer crosses a site with those keywords on it, they receive ad of the highest bidders choosing. Note: the ad is not placed on the site and the site creator does not receive commission for ad nor does he give permission for ad to be placed.

Pop-unders. I own a site. My site gets traffic. I decide to monitize said traffic so *I* profit from *MY* site and *MY* traffic. I add pop-under to *MY* site. I was nice enough to give myself permission.

Now... somebody please explain how those two situations are even remotely similar. And if I'm understanding the operation of Zango incorrectly, please correct me.

BoyAlley · 11-16-2006, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

second, its pretty obvious you've been talking to Lars and buying into what hes feeding you, so how is that any different than people buying into what will is saying? by your logic you're just a sheep on the other side of the fence.

I've never spoken to Lars, or anyone else from AFF for that matter, before. In any medium. Ever.

I've been watching Will76's dramas for a long time now, and felt the need to chip in my two gay pennies about it all.

Secondly, anyone that knows me, knows that I'm a free thinker and am not one to "buy into" things that are "fed to me".

Teh BoyAlley is not a goat.

Jace · 11-16-2006, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars

that was pointed out to me by a lot of people at teh trade show.

did they also say you were a "top notch" guy and that you have "class"?

BoyAlley · 11-16-2006, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars

and that was pointed out to me by a lot of people at teh trade show.

OMG Lars said "teh trade show". Too thexy..........

Jace · 11-16-2006, 08:09 PM

and btw lars, of course people are going to side with you in person, you are wealthy and have money to offer them...people in this biz bow to those above them like they are gods or something

Jace · 11-16-2006, 08:12 PM

$125 a sign up sure does buy a lot of convention dick suckin doesn't it?

BoyAlley · 11-16-2006, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

Find 1 shread of proof that i have made 1 penny from this zango shit and I will stop posting now.

I await your reply.

First off, I'm not inspector gadget. My job isn't to hunt down empirical proof.

You profit off of one of Lars' competitors, in fact that appears to be how you earn your living.

You've been make a non-stop big ass deal out of Lars being an evil son of a bitch.

1 + 1 = ?

For that matter, I've yet to see you show emphatically that any of AFF's affiliates have been losing significant income due to Zango? In fact, I've seen SEVERAL large AFF affiliates post the exact opposite?

In fact, to be totally blunt, most of the "affiliates" on here that I've seen bitching are ones that look to only send a half dozen sales to anything in a given week. Waaay to small to be able to trend anything to begin with.

TampaToker · 11-16-2006, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars

This is WRONG

Right here in this thread tell us how the cookies and session id's work with aff. I been looking for the anwser to this

BoyAlley · 11-16-2006, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace

$125 a sign up sure does buy a lot of convention dick suckin doesn't it?

Your own logic is working against your argument here.

Why would people be sucking his dick for $125 payouts if no one's getting paid anything because Zango is stealing all of their traffics?

Must mean people are making monies with those $125 payouts afterall, huh?

Xenophage · 11-16-2006, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace

did they also say you were a "top notch" guy and that you have "class"?

The ones who have known me for a long time, yes in fact they did.

I am not a mean or spitefull person, even when someone goes on an all out crusade against me. I just see things differently is all. Will is entitled to his opinion as are you.

In fact they many said it was humorous I was taking so much heat, because in the past I have been against spam dialers and all kinds of other shady stuff that goes on in this biz, and I left piles and pile and piles of cash on the table due to my own moral issues. I just see things differently here than some. I dont fault them for seeing things different than I do.

nico-t · 11-16-2006, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Donny

Any thread started by teh BoyAlley results in a click by my Apple Mouse. You almost always bring a smile to my face. Thanks.

you like a gay? you fucking heathen.

TampaToker · 11-16-2006, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley

Your own logic is working against your argument here.

Why would people be sucking his dick for $125 payouts if no one's getting paid anything because Zango is stealing all of their traffics?

Must mean people are making monies with those $125 payouts afterall, huh?

So you tellin me you have no problems with any others companys poping up a popup over your website with a surfer clicks a link to your site?

jayeff · 11-16-2006, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars

his attacks on me and my company have gone above and beyond anything reasonable

Milton Friedman died today. One of the things I most admired about him was that he never publicly questioned the motives of anyone who disagreed with him. He treated everyone with respect and always argued the issues solely on their merits as he perceived them.

It's a copout to fall back on attacking the messenger, because the message exists as a separate entity. It is either valid or it is not, regardless of who delivered it or why they did so.

You convicted yourself, regardless of anything Will posted before or since and regardless of his reasons for taking up this issue. As to "above and beyond": you are on here several times a day, rubbing everyone's nose in what you have admitted to doing and you are still doing it. If you were smarter, you might pay less attention to those who tell you what you want to hear...

Jace · 11-16-2006, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley

Your own logic is working against your argument here.

Why would people be sucking his dick for $125 payouts if no one's getting paid anything because Zango is stealing all of their traffics?

Must mean people are making monies with those $125 payouts afterall, huh?

I am really going to get into the Zango fight, I don't know the full details

BUT, wasn't there one screenshot that showed xxxJay losing money directly from Zango?

and when you make hundreds of sign ups at $125 a pop, and 10-15% dissappear, it isn't that noticeable.....isn't that what was projected for zango users? 10-15%?

GooSearch · 11-16-2006, 08:20 PM

i have read alot of these threads about lars, zango, will etc etc/// this industry eats itself daily.. and will eventually consume itself.. as far as what boyalley wrote.i think its a great read and by looking for wills posts he started with the whole spyware thing around april, and blew up in oct. will i have never contacted him but after doing a lil snooping around i found a few threads that where a good read
to you fuckers who make $$ installing shit on people's PC's.
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=594702

What is the best way to contact LARS (trigger words - CAMS - AFF - Friend Finder ;)
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=644843
why?

and regarding aff and lars.. i promote aff but it is not my main source of income.. some of the other companies i have worked with or for have used such program namely 180solutions to them it is strictly business.. they would focus on their major competition.. to them its just big boys playing with bigger budgets then alot of us..

i haven't used zango, but did use 180solutions, personally and for clients, did it convert.. yes it did..

nico-t · 11-16-2006, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

How can one even compare Zango and TGPs or pop-unders?

Zango. Bid on keywords. When a person with Zango installed on their computer crosses a site with those keywords on it, they receive ad of the highest bidders choosing. Note: the ad is not placed on the site and the site creator does not receive commission for ad nor does he give permission for ad to be placed.

Pop-unders. I own a site. My site gets traffic. I decide to monitize said traffic so *I* profit from *MY* site and *MY* traffic. I add pop-under to *MY* site. I was nice enough to give myself permission.

Now... somebody please explain how those two situations are even remotely similar. And if I'm understanding the operation of Zango incorrectly, please correct me.

true dat nigga, true dat.

Jace · 11-16-2006, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jayeff

Milton Friedman died today. One of the things I most admired about him was that he never publicly questioned the motives of anyone who disagreed with him. He treated everyone with respect and always argued the issues solely on their merits as he perceived them.

It's a copout to fall back on attacking the messenger, because the message exists as a separate entity. It is either valid or it is not, regardless of who delivered it or why they did so.

You convicted yourself, regardless of anything Will posted before or since and regardless of his reasons for taking up this issue. As to "above and beyond": you are on here several times a day, rubbing everyone's nose in what you have admitted to doing and you are still doing it. If you were smarter, you might pay less attention to those who tell you what you want to hear...

VERY well said

if Lars didn't rub everyones nose in shit constantly, it probably wouldn't still be a such a big deal

marketsmart · 11-16-2006, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TampaToker

Right here in this thread tell us how the cookies and session id's work with aff. I been looking for the anwser to this

i am interested in an answer to this as well.. if cookies and session ids are not overwritten then i would find it hard to believe that zango is "stealing from their affiliates" as claimed by posters...

tony286 · 11-16-2006, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

this business is pathetic and full of idiots. a guy gets caught stealing... says "yeah, i am doing it... for sure" - then later says "you don't like the fact that i am stealing from you? so what?" and so many people are totally ok with it. even defending it. Now he is asking for advice on christmas presents to affiliates and after a flurry of "check out my cool pics" posts... all is back to normal.

Hate on Will. and? is he wrong?

uhmm... no. Is Lars wrong? Well... first he admitted it in a statement, then call you an idiot for believing Will.

you people are fucking retards.

you think you can stop Lawmakers from coming after you? The DOJ... the FBI? you can't stop stabbing each other in the face for 3 fucking seconds.

morons.

You are so right,I wonder what boy alley's motivation for defending this behavior? Because someone buys some drinks at a show or poses with them with big smiles. Its ok for them to screw webmasters, I dont understand this.

Jace · 11-16-2006, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TampaToker

Right here in this thread tell us how the cookies and session id's work with aff. I been looking for the anwser to this

I would actually be interested in knowing this too

If a Zango user is surfing and comes to AFF from my affiliate ID, then another AFF page pops up OVER the current page, did I just lose a sale?

BoyAlley · 11-16-2006, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

I wonder what boy alley's motivation for defending this behavior? Because someone buys some drinks at a show or poses with them with big smiles.

I've never been to any shows. They're scurry. WAY too much bewbie action for my taste.

I'm just calling it like I see it.........

will76 · 11-16-2006, 08:29 PM

You took the time to post this so I am going to take the time reply to your concerns, suspicisions, acusations, etc...

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley

Ok so no one asked me but I'm gay as fuck and don't need an invitation to run my mouth about things. So, here goes.......

You don't need to be gay to run your mouth

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley

Whenever I see such a massive campaign against something/someone like I'm seeing run by Will76 against LegendaryLars and Zango, I always ask myself:
Hey, you sexy gay homosexual, what is the motivation of this person?

My first thought was LAWDS MERCY Will76 must be a huge AFF affiliate and must be losing all kinds of monies! Then I read will76 say that he isn't an affiliate of AFF at all. Hrm. Will76 isn't even promoting AFF, so isn't losing any monies, so why does he care so much wtf AFF is doing?

I do not promote AFF, well i sent them a little traffic for like a month well over a year ago. I know you are relativly new in adult (at least i think i remember you saying that a while back) so I will explain to you how this works. When someone clicks on the link on my site that says " signup here", and they have zango on their computer, instead of see my ifriends signup page the person will have an Cams.com page pop up instantly over my ifriends signup page. This person does not know ifriends,what it looks like, etc.. they think the cams.com page is what I was just selling them about and they think that is the site/page I intended to send them to. SO if i did a good job selling my traffic, which I paid for, using my bandwidth, on my site, then I just got them to signup to cams.com because lars used zango to hijack my traffic. So, do you understand how this is costing me money even though I am not an AFF affiliate. Lars targets ifriends url a lot. Most zango popups for ifriends go to cams.com.

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley

So I then asked myself:
Hey, you sexy gay homosexual, what DOES will76 promote?
Apparently he runs something called TeamClickCash which looks like some sort of "affiliate clan", and he's making monies by referring webmasters to, wait for it, wait for it: IFRIENDS!
Hrm...........................................
I'm feeling a cripe mighty coming on.............

So Will76, who's losing no monies cuz he doesn't promote AFF, who has financial motivation to get webmasters to sign up to iFriends, is running a MASSIVE CAMPAIGN against LegendaryLars/AFF who happens to also run what must be one of iFriend's largest competing cam sites?

Yes, I can feel it, it's coming, it's coming, it:

CRIPE MIGHTY LAWDS MERCY!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have already addressed this a few posts up. Since the hurricane last year I have taken on very very few TCC members. While I apologize to the ones I have turned down (especially those of you i did not reply back to, i feel bad for not having replied back to everyone), I hope one or two of you can post here explaining to this guy that you contacted me and I turned you down. Since I have been posting about zango I haven't had anyone signup and I have helped no one, therefore I have made ZERO affiliate sales. Find one person to say otherwise, just one please and prove me wrong.

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley

So it goes something like this? Will76:
LegendaryLars is an evil somsbitch quit sending your traffics to all of his sites. Oh I guess that means that you now need somewhere to send traffics? Well I happen to run an affiliate clan go there and sign up for teh iFriends so I can make a ton more monies in affiliate referral sales and boost my own personal revenues. I good, Lars bad.

That's kinda scurry.

I have yet to read any of AFF large affiliates come on here saying that they've been noticing substantial decreases in revenue? I have a hunch that the actual "Zango Effect" is much to do about nothing, and now I have a pretty clear understanding of why so much "much to do" was started in the first place..........

Mercy.

Now I'm gonna go subscribe to AFF and see if I can get some Vaginas.

This post was way too long I hope you didn't waste a significant portion of your life reading down this far.........

I like to vent sometimes......

K I'm off to look for that Vaginas now.

Bye.

Lubbins you all.

Long time.

For really.

BTW: I think Lars might have been right about a lot of people on here being sheep. Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.

K I'm gonna go for real this time.

Bye.

Really.

Cya.

k.

I think you are a sheep and 100% wrong on everything you had to say. You are being misslead and have no basis other then suspicions based off of what Lars has been feeding you. If you really cared enough about this issue, and I suspect you do since you wrote a book, then I am curious why you have not contacted me and asked me these questions yourself.

Makes one wonder if you have an agenda here and if you don't then I expect an apology or proof of your allegations... not a threat like I am going to get you banned, but man to man, you just said a lot of inaccurate shit, can you stand by what you said with proof or be a man and apologize ?

awaiting your reply.

Jace · 11-16-2006, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley

I've never been to any shows. They're scurry. WAY too much bewbie action for my taste.

I'm just calling it like I see it.........

i truely don't think will is doing this for signups, i think, like me, he gets into the heat of the moment and whoever he is going after gets in his line of sight and he won't stop until they cower or stop doing what they are doing

I get obsessed like that sometimes, hell, gfy has seen me do it a few times

Pleasurepays · 11-16-2006, 08:32 PM

PWN3D like Michael Jackson on his first day in prison.

lucky1 · 11-16-2006, 08:32 PM

BoyAlley it really sucks to see you post this. You have proven that you have a lot of pull and are the kind of person that can raise awareness about a problem. That?s exactly the kind of person that could help make people aware of what is really happening.

Here is my thinking on this issue. I don't know Will or Lars personally, but I think I know enough to have an educated opinion. Will said that he saw zango in action and what it was doing. If I am correct Will makes over 7 figures a year as an affiliate for ifriends. After seeing Zango in action and then hearing how many users they have, Will was upset that he was loosing a nice amount of money. Now to someone making a thousand dollars a year the small percentage of surfers using zango would probably be very insignificant, but to someone making the kind of money Will makes, that loss is substantially higher.

If you were loosing thousands of dollars because someone was interfering with your traffic, and you knew it would just keep getting worse, what would you do about it?

I think Will had two option, join the darkside and use zango (probably very profitable for him, more so than making a stink about it on a board to try and "get more affiliates under him") or try to make enough noise that people would be outraged and try to stop zango.

Will chose option two and has not even mentioned Team Click Cash until other people bring it up.

What a lot of people don't realize is that the people who are dumb enough to install (aka get infected) with Zango are also the people that are too dumb to realize that they can get all the porn they want for free through p2p, torrents, ect. We are loosing are best customers if zango gets to them first.

With the continued growth of torrent sites, p2p networks, and the likes of Zango where will our industry be in a few years?

I think if Will took the time to improve his business instead of posting on GFY and researching Zango he would make more money. So the only reason I am left with is Will doesn't want to have people steal his hard earned traffic, and is willing to complain (and in some peoples opinion make an ass out of himself) in order to keep making money in this industry while still having morals and honesty.

The real sheep are the ones who let people steal from them and then laugh in their face.

BoyAlley · 11-16-2006, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

not a threat like I am going to get you banned

First off, you couldn't get me banned if you wanted to. I suck waaaaaaaaay too many breeder dicks around here for that to happen.

And I'm gay, so you KNOW i'm good at it.

Secondly, you promote and profit directly and in fact make your living from one of Lars' major competitors. I don't think anything that I've said drawing a correlation between that, and your OBSESSION over him and his operation, is inaccurate at all.

You think Lars is an evil somsbitch, and I think you have financial motivations to bash him non stop. We're both entitled to those opinions.

lazycash · 11-16-2006, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

I must be missing something.

I haven't seen Will push TCC in any of the Zango threads, much less have I even seen him speak of TCC in months. I just checked his sig, has nothing to do with TCC aside from the email address.

Claiming that he's doing this to pull over affiliates is really pushing it.

Bingo, if Will had underhanded motives in order to promote Clickcash, why has he never hyped them in any of his Zango threads. Anyone following the board over the last six months would have noticed that Will has hardly even mentioned Clickcash or his program like he did last year.

Boy Alley, Zango was getting major heat from mainstream affiliates well before Will brought it to the attention of the gfy community.

will76 · 11-16-2006, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley

Uh-huh. Sure. He's driven purely but humanitarian motivations.

I don't buy that anymore, sorry.

If i was driven by humanitarian motiviations then I would be trying to find a cue for homosexuality and rid the world of gays... of course I am just kiding and I knwo my gay friends will get a good laugh at that.

I am not trying to save the world, I care about money... period. My intentions are money motivated, but not like you think, I am not trying to steal leach off of anyone, I am trying to keep them from doing this to me. I hope you can understand the difference.

JOKER · 11-16-2006, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace

I would actually be interested in knowing this too

If a Zango user is surfing and comes to AFF from my affiliate ID, then another AFF page pops up OVER the current page, did I just lose a sale?

You did, because most certainly the surfer signs up using the Zango window, which is focused over yours.

That's the whole issue, it doesn't matter if cookies or session IDs are overwritten.

Surfers are simple, they think the window in their face is the one to use to sign up, simple as that.

To everyone here that is shooting the messenger - Will76 in this case, think about this:

Would you be cool with Sponsors popping a join window for their own program with their Affiliate-ID / no Affiliate-ID over YOUR window with your ID ?

This is the WHOLE issue summed up in a few words.

Oh and if you're cool with this behaviour - shoot me an ICQ, I'll give you my affiliate codes to pop over yours - for free of course... got the idea now?

Just my

Sly · 11-16-2006, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

How can one even compare Zango and TGPs or pop-unders?

Zango. Bid on keywords. When a person with Zango installed on their computer crosses a site with those keywords on it, they receive ad of the highest bidders choosing. Note: the ad is not placed on the site and the site creator does not receive commission for ad nor does he give permission for ad to be placed.

Pop-unders. I own a site. My site gets traffic. I decide to monitize said traffic so *I* profit from *MY* site and *MY* traffic. I add pop-under to *MY* site. I was nice enough to give myself permission.

Now... somebody please explain how those two situations are even remotely similar. And if I'm understanding the operation of Zango incorrectly, please correct me.

Bueller?

will76 · 11-16-2006, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars

This is WRONG

explain how you using zango is not cuting into my income ? Please I can't wait for this explanation.

Or do we have to wait for 3 days for your lawyer to type up some bullshit, far fetched shit, about adware collisions ?

will76 · 11-16-2006, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars

No i forgot this is will

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man you digging a hole fast. Keep it up Lars every asshole post like that you help fire up 10 more people that hate you and your company. Keep it up. Good job.

BTW, note to Lars. When something doesn't work when jimthefiend does it, I don't think it is going to work for you.

Sean · 11-16-2006, 08:47 PM

since clickcash is still letting webmasters use adware, when will you stop sending them traffic will?

marketsmart · 11-16-2006, 08:47 PM

btw... zango will not allow you to buy traffic to pop over aff/cams, etc..
i know of several dating programs that are going through the legal process of having their trademarked names removed from zangos bid list.

if companies are smart they will do the same.

that is ultimately the best way to put a stop to all of this.

i understand the position of do it to them before they do it to us....

with that being said, aff is in a catch 22... i think people are starting to think that this is a war between will and aff.... its not... its a war against adware and we should not lose site of that because its only going to get worse...

Xenophage · 11-16-2006, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace

I am really going to get into the Zango fight, I don't know the full details

BUT, wasn't there one screenshot that showed xxxJay losing money directly from Zango?

and when you make hundreds of sign ups at $125 a pop, and 10-15% dissappear, it isn't that noticeable.....isn't that what was projected for zango users? 10-15%?

no we are talking about less than 1/2 of 1 % and then the user can close the pop up if they dont like and continue surfing what they were doing.

11-16-2006, 07:48 PM	#51
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11-16-2006, 07:49 PM	#53
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11-16-2006, 07:55 PM	#62
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11-16-2006, 07:59 PM	#66
Sly Let's do some business! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 31,323	How can one even compare Zango and TGPs or pop-unders? Zango. Bid on keywords. When a person with Zango installed on their computer crosses a site with those keywords on it, they receive ad of the highest bidders choosing. Note: the ad is not placed on the site and the site creator does not receive commission for ad nor does he give permission for ad to be placed. Pop-unders. I own a site. My site gets traffic. I decide to monitize said traffic so I profit from MY site and MY traffic. I add pop-under to MY site. I was nice enough to give myself permission. Now... somebody please explain how those two situations are even remotely similar. And if I'm understanding the operation of Zango incorrectly, please correct me. __________________ Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted Windows VPS now available Great for TSS, Nifty Stats, remote work, virtual assistants, etc. Click here for more details.

11-16-2006, 08:09 PM	#70
Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	and btw lars, of course people are going to side with you in person, you are wealthy and have money to offer them...people in this biz bow to those above them like they are gods or something

11-16-2006, 08:12 PM	#71
Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	$125 a sign up sure does buy a lot of convention dick suckin doesn't it?

11-16-2006, 08:20 PM	#80
GooSearch Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: FLA Posts: 2,538	i have read alot of these threads about lars, zango, will etc etc/// this industry eats itself daily.. and will eventually consume itself.. as far as what boyalley wrote.i think its a great read and by looking for wills posts he started with the whole spyware thing around april, and blew up in oct. will i have never contacted him but after doing a lil snooping around i found a few threads that where a good read to you fuckers who make $$ installing shit on people's PC's. http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=594702 What is the best way to contact LARS (trigger words - CAMS - AFF - Friend Finder ;) http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=644843 why? and regarding aff and lars.. i promote aff but it is not my main source of income.. some of the other companies i have worked with or for have used such program namely 180solutions to them it is strictly business.. they would focus on their major competition.. to them its just big boys playing with bigger budgets then alot of us.. i haven't used zango, but did use 180solutions, personally and for clients, did it convert.. yes it did.. __________________ GooSearch Real Text Ads Without The Drama Coming Back Bigger and Better Then Ever

11-16-2006, 08:32 PM	#89
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11-16-2006, 08:32 PM	#90
lucky1 Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 309	BoyAlley it really sucks to see you post this. You have proven that you have a lot of pull and are the kind of person that can raise awareness about a problem. That?s exactly the kind of person that could help make people aware of what is really happening. Here is my thinking on this issue. I don't know Will or Lars personally, but I think I know enough to have an educated opinion. Will said that he saw zango in action and what it was doing. If I am correct Will makes over 7 figures a year as an affiliate for ifriends. After seeing Zango in action and then hearing how many users they have, Will was upset that he was loosing a nice amount of money. Now to someone making a thousand dollars a year the small percentage of surfers using zango would probably be very insignificant, but to someone making the kind of money Will makes, that loss is substantially higher. If you were loosing thousands of dollars because someone was interfering with your traffic, and you knew it would just keep getting worse, what would you do about it? I think Will had two option, join the darkside and use zango (probably very profitable for him, more so than making a stink about it on a board to try and "get more affiliates under him") or try to make enough noise that people would be outraged and try to stop zango. Will chose option two and has not even mentioned Team Click Cash until other people bring it up. What a lot of people don't realize is that the people who are dumb enough to install (aka get infected) with Zango are also the people that are too dumb to realize that they can get all the porn they want for free through p2p, torrents, ect. We are loosing are best customers if zango gets to them first. With the continued growth of torrent sites, p2p networks, and the likes of Zango where will our industry be in a few years? I think if Will took the time to improve his business instead of posting on GFY and researching Zango he would make more money. So the only reason I am left with is Will doesn't want to have people steal his hard earned traffic, and is willing to complain (and in some peoples opinion make an ass out of himself) in order to keep making money in this industry while still having morals and honesty. The real sheep are the ones who let people steal from them and then laugh in their face. __________________ - See sig --->

11-16-2006, 08:47 PM	#98
Sean revolutionforce.com Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: i moved from an ICQ box to a Skype box. left the skype box for a telegram box Posts: 2,909	since clickcash is still letting webmasters use adware, when will you stop sending them traffic will? __________________ -sean skype: sean.a.christian sean @ revolutionforce.com

11-16-2006, 08:47 PM	#99
marketsmart HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sunnybrook Institution for the Criminally Insane Posts: 20,419	btw... zango will not allow you to buy traffic to pop over aff/cams, etc.. i know of several dating programs that are going through the legal process of having their trademarked names removed from zangos bid list. if companies are smart they will do the same. that is ultimately the best way to put a stop to all of this. i understand the position of do it to them before they do it to us.... with that being said, aff is in a catch 22... i think people are starting to think that this is a war between will and aff.... its not... its a war against adware and we should not lose site of that because its only going to get worse...