Iran holds conference on Holocaust denial - GoFuckYourself.com

Sly · 12-11-2006, 12:24 PM

LOL. These guys truly are nuts.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061211/...ust_conference

TEHRAN, Iran -
Iran on Monday hosted a conference gathering prominent Holocaust deniers that it said would examine whether the World War II genocide of Jews took place, drawing condemnation from
Israel and Germany.
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The conference was initiated by President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in an apparent attempt to burnish his status at home and abroad as a tough opponent of Israel. The hard-liner president has described the Holocaust as a "myth" and called for Israel to be wiped off the map.

Organizers touted the conference as a scholarly gathering aimed at discussing the Holocaust away from Western taboos, but the 67 participants from 30 countries were predominantly Holocaust deniers. They included David Duke ? the former Louisiana state representative and Ku Klux Klan leader ? and France's Robert Faurisson and Australian Frederick Toben, who was jailed in Germany in 1999 for questioning the Holocaust.

Also at the conference were two rabbis and four other members of the group Jews United Against Zionism, who were dressed in the traditional long black coats and black hats of ultra-Orthodox Jews. Jews United Against Zionism, which says the creation of the state of Israel violated Jewish law, does not deny the Holocaust occurred but argues that it should not have been a reason for the founding of Israel.

In Israel, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert called on the world to protest the conference, terming it "a sick phenomenon."

German Parliament President Norbert Lammert protested the conference in a letter to Ahmadinejad.

"I condemn any attempt to offer anti-Semitic propaganda a public forum under the pretext of scientific freedom and objectivity," Lammert wrote.

The two-day conference was organized by the Iranian Foreign Ministry's Institute for Political and International Studies.

"This conference seeks neither to deny nor prove the Holocaust," the institute's chief Rasoul Mousavi said in an opening speech. "It is just to provide an appropriate scientific atmosphere for scholars to offer their opinions in freedom about a historical issue."

In Germany, Austria and France, it is illegal to deny the Holocaust.

Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki dismissed the foreign criticism as "predictable," telling conference delegates there was "no logical reason for opposing this conference."

"The objective for organizing this conference is to create an atmosphere to raise various opinions about a historical issue," Mottaki said.

"If the official version of the Holocaust is thrown into doubt, then the identity and nature of Israel will be thrown into doubt. And if, during this review, it is proved that the Holocaust was a historical reality, then what is the reason for the Muslim people of the region and the Palestinians having to pay the cost of the Nazis' crimes?" Mottaki said.

Ahmadinejad has said that the killing of 6 million Jews by the Nazi German regime during World War II was a "myth" and "exaggerated." He has also repeatedly questioned why the Holocaust has been used to justify the creation of Israel at the cost of Palestinian lands ? a view popular among Iranian hard-liners.

Israel's official Holocaust memorial, Yad Vashem, condemned the Tehran conference as an attempt to "paint (an) extremist agenda with a scholarly brush."

The leading Israeli novelist and peace activist, Amos Oz, also denounced the meeting.

"I think the conference in Iran is a sick joke, and I hope it will be received with revulsion and disgust everywhere in the world," Oz said.

The gathering coincided with an independently convened academic conference on the Holocaust in Berlin, Germany, where historians affirmed the accuracy of the Nazi genocide data and questioned the motives of those behind the Tehran forum.

The number of Holocaust deaths "is not a figment of the imagination. This comes from the Germans themselves, and therefore any denial of these figures is absolutely senseless," historian Raul Hilberg, author of "The Destruction of the European Jews," told the Berlin conference.

Wolfgang Benz, head of the Center for Research on Anti-Semitism at Berlin's Technical University, said people who deny the Holocaust "know perfectly well what happened."

"They want to use what happened ? through denying it ? to effect something else, to articulate the crude old anti-Semitism against Israel," he said.

Iran has spent months preparing for the conference, even publicizing it during the September visit to Tehran of U.N. Secretary-General
Kofi Annan, who contradicted his hosts by saying the Holocaust was a historical fact and that an exhibition of anti-Holocaust cartoons, then on display in the city, promoted hatred.

who · 12-11-2006, 12:27 PM

I don't see where the drama is..

Webby · 12-11-2006, 12:47 PM

Doub't they are that nutty Sly

Ahmadinejad is a politician on a mission and knows very well that the Holocaust existed. He also knows the relevance of the holocaust in shaping policies in the ME.

If the core of US support for the State of Israel can be pretended to be excuses like the Holocaust - Ahmadinejad's weapon will be to deny it ever happened.

All that stuff is the same as.... eg Bush et al claiming "mushroom clouds" in their sales pitch/hype over Iraq - there's no end to the verbal spewage of politicians - they are all born liars

Sly · 12-11-2006, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby

Doub't they are that nutty Sly

Ahmadinejad is a politician on a mission and knows very well that the Holocaust existed. He also knows the relevance of the holocaust in shaping policies in the ME.

If the core of US support for the State of Israel can be pretended to be excuses like the Holocaust - Ahmadinejad's weapon will be to deny it ever happened.

All that stuff is the same as.... eg Bush et al claiming "mushroom clouds" in their sales pitch/hype over Iraq - there's no end to the verbal spewage of politicians - they are all born liars

Did you read the list of attendees? They aren't all Presidents and politicians.

David Duke isn't a nut?

Agent 488 · 12-11-2006, 01:07 PM

should hold one about the ukranian famine hoax.

notabook · 12-11-2006, 01:11 PM

sextoyking · 12-11-2006, 01:16 PM

Another worthless stain on humanity

yeh I know and accept alot of it is politics but there are better ways... Most of his country ppl are young and moderate - feeding this bs and lies to them is no way to act.

Israel is going no where, Fact... He and whoever else can play to there base, right wingers - deniers, all day long...

Any country, state, group, etc that comes at Israel with real bombs (nuc, etc) to destroy the country will be met with the wrath of Nuc's and destruction.. count on that..

To deny the deaths and torture of over 6 million jews, and many more millions of others is beyond real.

sextoyking · 12-11-2006, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by notabook

Another loser Sig whore

Sly · 12-11-2006, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sextoyking

Another worthless stain on humanity

yeh I know and accept alot of it is politics but there are better ways... Most of his country ppl are young and moderate - feeding this bs and lies to them is no way to act.

Israel is going no where, Fact... He and whoever else can play to there base, right wingers - deniers, all day long...

Any country, state, group, etc that comes at Israel with real bombs (nuc, etc) to destroy the country will be met with the wrath of Nuc's and destruction.. count on that..

To deny the deaths and torture of over 6 million jews, and many more millions of others is beyond real.

I also read today that 3 children of a Fatah Security Member were filled with about 60 bullet holes, allegedly from Hamas militants.

Fatah and Hamas are warring, for lack of better words. Lebanon and Hezbollah are warring, again for lack of better words. And the World expects Israel to create some peace deal that none of the parties can uphold? Haha.

Poor Abbas and Sanoira, those boys are in quite the pickle.

Sarah_Jayne · 12-11-2006, 01:41 PM

I am a peacenik but if the conference hall suddenly caught fire with the doors locked I wouldn't cry that much.

Vigilante · 12-11-2006, 01:42 PM

If the Holocaust would be 100% true and 6 Mio really died then there wouldn´t be a drama about a holocaust converence

Think about that...

sextoyking · 12-11-2006, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly

I also read today that 3 children of a Fatah Security Member were filled with about 60 bullet holes, allegedly from Hamas militants.

Fatah and Hamas are warring, for lack of better words. Lebanon and Hezbollah are warring, again for lack of better words. And the World expects Israel to create some peace deal that none of the parties can uphold? Haha.

Poor Abbas and Sanoira, those boys are in quite the pickle.

Sly,

Shia (sp), Suni, Jews, Christians in Lebanon, etc this has been going on for centuries and centuries.

I support the 2 state solution - np there.. God dam clinton was so close - but alas is anyone real close with these regional problems??

One day, one day....

Sarah_Jayne · 12-11-2006, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Vigilante

If the Holocaust would be 100% true there wouldn´t be a drama about a holocaust converence

Think about that...

I thought about it for five seconds and I conclude that is a stupid ass statement.

Anthony · 12-11-2006, 01:51 PM

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Kofi Annan, who contradicted his hosts by saying the Holocaust was a historical fact and that an exhibition of anti-Holocaust cartoons, then on display in the city, promoted hatred.

Allah forbid they see a cartoon that gets the muslims in an uproar!

12-11-2006, 12:24 PM	#1
Sly Let's do some business! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 31,328	Iran holds conference on Holocaust denial LOL. These guys truly are nuts. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061211/...ust_conference TEHRAN, Iran - Iran on Monday hosted a conference gathering prominent Holocaust deniers that it said would examine whether the World War II genocide of Jews took place, drawing condemnation from Israel and Germany. ADVERTISEMENT The conference was initiated by President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in an apparent attempt to burnish his status at home and abroad as a tough opponent of Israel. The hard-liner president has described the Holocaust as a "myth" and called for Israel to be wiped off the map. Organizers touted the conference as a scholarly gathering aimed at discussing the Holocaust away from Western taboos, but the 67 participants from 30 countries were predominantly Holocaust deniers. They included David Duke ? the former Louisiana state representative and Ku Klux Klan leader ? and France's Robert Faurisson and Australian Frederick Toben, who was jailed in Germany in 1999 for questioning the Holocaust. Also at the conference were two rabbis and four other members of the group Jews United Against Zionism, who were dressed in the traditional long black coats and black hats of ultra-Orthodox Jews. Jews United Against Zionism, which says the creation of the state of Israel violated Jewish law, does not deny the Holocaust occurred but argues that it should not have been a reason for the founding of Israel. In Israel, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert called on the world to protest the conference, terming it "a sick phenomenon." German Parliament President Norbert Lammert protested the conference in a letter to Ahmadinejad. "I condemn any attempt to offer anti-Semitic propaganda a public forum under the pretext of scientific freedom and objectivity," Lammert wrote. The two-day conference was organized by the Iranian Foreign Ministry's Institute for Political and International Studies. "This conference seeks neither to deny nor prove the Holocaust," the institute's chief Rasoul Mousavi said in an opening speech. "It is just to provide an appropriate scientific atmosphere for scholars to offer their opinions in freedom about a historical issue." In Germany, Austria and France, it is illegal to deny the Holocaust. Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki dismissed the foreign criticism as "predictable," telling conference delegates there was "no logical reason for opposing this conference." "The objective for organizing this conference is to create an atmosphere to raise various opinions about a historical issue," Mottaki said. "If the official version of the Holocaust is thrown into doubt, then the identity and nature of Israel will be thrown into doubt. And if, during this review, it is proved that the Holocaust was a historical reality, then what is the reason for the Muslim people of the region and the Palestinians having to pay the cost of the Nazis' crimes?" Mottaki said. Ahmadinejad has said that the killing of 6 million Jews by the Nazi German regime during World War II was a "myth" and "exaggerated." He has also repeatedly questioned why the Holocaust has been used to justify the creation of Israel at the cost of Palestinian lands ? a view popular among Iranian hard-liners. Israel's official Holocaust memorial, Yad Vashem, condemned the Tehran conference as an attempt to "paint (an) extremist agenda with a scholarly brush." The leading Israeli novelist and peace activist, Amos Oz, also denounced the meeting. "I think the conference in Iran is a sick joke, and I hope it will be received with revulsion and disgust everywhere in the world," Oz said. The gathering coincided with an independently convened academic conference on the Holocaust in Berlin, Germany, where historians affirmed the accuracy of the Nazi genocide data and questioned the motives of those behind the Tehran forum. The number of Holocaust deaths "is not a figment of the imagination. This comes from the Germans themselves, and therefore any denial of these figures is absolutely senseless," historian Raul Hilberg, author of "The Destruction of the European Jews," told the Berlin conference. Wolfgang Benz, head of the Center for Research on Anti-Semitism at Berlin's Technical University, said people who deny the Holocaust "know perfectly well what happened." "They want to use what happened ? through denying it ? to effect something else, to articulate the crude old anti-Semitism against Israel," he said. Iran has spent months preparing for the conference, even publicizing it during the September visit to Tehran of U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan, who contradicted his hosts by saying the Holocaust was a historical fact and that an exhibition of anti-Holocaust cartoons, then on display in the city, promoted hatred. __________________ Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted Windows VPS now available Great for TSS, Nifty Stats, remote work, virtual assistants, etc. Click here for more details.

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sextoyking Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Portland, OR. Posts: 6,034	Another worthless stain on humanity yeh I know and accept alot of it is politics but there are better ways... Most of his country ppl are young and moderate - feeding this bs and lies to them is no way to act. Israel is going no where, Fact... He and whoever else can play to there base, right wingers - deniers, all day long... Any country, state, group, etc that comes at Israel with real bombs (nuc, etc) to destroy the country will be met with the wrath of Nuc's and destruction.. count on that.. To deny the deaths and torture of over 6 million jews, and many more millions of others is beyond real. __________________ ICQ: 52344098 -------------------------------------- 50% Commissions on all Product Sales. http://www.wishing.com/money

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12-11-2006, 12:27 PM	#2
who So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: ICQ #23642053 Posts: 19,593	I don't see where the drama is..

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Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	I am a peacenik but if the conference hall suddenly caught fire with the doors locked I wouldn't cry that much.