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Why doesnt the US Gov. Legalize Drugs and Prostitution?
Its not like they put a dent into stopping either one. this is the problem with a Gov thats afraid of change or trying new concepts..
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The US Government does not criminalize prostitution, states do. Unless of course you decide to cross state lines with a female for the purpose of sexual activity. Then you are breaking some fucked up slavery law.
As for drugs, well lets just say it is more profitable to keep them illegal.
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If the drug cartels and pimps had lobbyists...like tobacco and alcohol then all would be fine....all plams would be greased.
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Did you really ask that question?
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Otherwise known as- mann act |
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If they were legal, the government would actually have to do some work and come up with new 'wars' to throw money at before its funneled back into their pockets
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The United State is one of the most conservative, puritanical societies in the world. Remember, this is the country that tried to outlaw DRINKING (our national passtime), a prohibition that ended less than 75 years ago. Over 60%of Americans define themselves as "very religious". Now, what was your question again?
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![]() They never went constitutional on drugs or prostitution. Prostitution was left as a state issue, and drugs found their ability to become illegal federally at first due to a morphing of the machine gun stamp act.
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Seems to only apply to minors. Do some states not have laws that prevent adults from having sex with children under 18? Or maybe that was the case in 1910. |
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add to that list online gambling
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As for Mann Act: CHAP. 395 ? An Act to further regulate interstate commerce and foreign commerce by prohibiting the transportation therein for immoral purposes of women and girls, and for other purposes. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That the term "interstate commerce," as used in this Act, shall include transportation from any State or Territory or the District of Columbia, and the term "foreign commerce," as used in this Act, shall include transportation from any State or Territory or the District of Columbia to any foreign country and from any foreign country to any State or Territory or the District of Columbia. SEC. 2. That any person who shall knowingly transport or cause to be transported, or aid or assist in obtaining transportation for, or in transporting, in interstate or foreign commerce, or in any Territory or in the District of Columbia, any woman or girl for the purpose of prostitution or debauchery, or for any other immoral purpose, or with the intent and purpose to induce, entice, or compel such woman or girl to become a prostitute or to give herself up to debauchery, or to engage in any other immoral practice; or who shall knowingly procure or obtain, or cause to be procured or obtained, or aid or assist in procuring or obtaining, any ticket or tickets, or any form of transportation or evidence of the right thereto, to be used by any woman or girl in interstate or foreign commerce, or in any Territory or the District of Columbia, in going to any place for the purpose of prostitution or debauchery, or for any other immoral purpose, or with the intent or purpose on the part of such person to induce, entice, or compel her to give herself up to the practice of prostitution, or to give herself up to the practice of debauchery, or any other immoral practice, whereby any such woman or girl shall be transported in interstate or foreign commerce, or in any Territory or the District of Columbia, shall be deemed guilty of a felony, and upon conviction thereof shall be punished by a fine not exceeding five thousand dollars, or by imprisonment of not more than five years, or by both such fine and imprisonment, in the discretion of the court. SEC. 3. That any person who shall knowingly persuade, induce, entice, or coerce, or cause to be persuaded, induced, enticed, or coerced, or aid or assist in persuading, inducing, enticing or coercing any woman or girl to go from one place to another in interstate or foreign commerce, or in any Territory or the District of Columbia, for the purpose of prostitution or debauchery, or for any other immoral purpose, or with the intent and purpose on the part of such person that such woman or girl shall engage in the practice of prostitution or debauchery, or any other immoral practice, whether with or without her consent, and who shall thereby knowingly cause or aid or assist in causing such woman or girl to go and be carried or transported as a passenger upon the line or route of any common carrier or carriers in interstate or foreign commerce, or any Territory or the District of Columbia, shall be deemed guilty of a felony and on conviction thereof shall be punished by a fine of not more than five thousand dollars, or by imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years, or by both fine and imprisonment, in the discretion of the court. SEC. 4. That any person who shall knowingly persuade, induce, entice or coerce any woman or girl under the age of eighteen years from any State or Territory or the District of Columbia to any other State or Territory or the District of Columbia, with the purpose and intent to induce or coerce her, or that she shall be induced or coerced to engage in prostitution or debauchery, or any other immoral practice, and shall in furtherance of such purpose knowingly induce or cause her to go and to be carried or transported as a passenger in interstate commerce upon the line or route of any common carrier or carriers, shall be deemed guilty of a felony, and in conviction there of shall be punished by a fine of not more than ten thousand dollars, or by imprisonment for a term not exceeding ten years, or by both such fine and imprisonment, in the discretion of the court. SEC. 5. That any violation of any of the above sections two, three, and four shall be prosecuted in any court having jurisdiction of crimes within the district in which said violation was committed, or from, through, or into which any such woman or girl may have been carried or transported as a passenger in interstate or foreign commerce, or in any Territory or the District of Columbia, contrary to the provisions of any of said sections.
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SEC. 6. That for the purpose of regulating and preventing the transportation in foreign commerce of alien women and girls for purposes of prostitution and debauchery, and in pursuance of and for the purpose of carrying out the terms of the agreement of project of arrangement for the suppression of the white-slave traffic, adopted July twenty-fifth, nineteen hundred and two, for submission to their respective governments by the delegates of various powers represented at the Paris conference and confirmed by a formal agreement signed at Paris on May eighteenth, nineteen hundred and four, and adhered to by the United States on June sixth, nineteen hundred and eight, as shown by the proclamation of the President of the United States, dated June fifteenth, nineteen hundred and eight, the Commissioner-General of Immigration is hereby designated as the authority of the United States to receive and centralize information concerning the procuration of alien women and girls with a view to their debauchery, and to exercise supervision over such alien women and girls, receive their declarations, establish their identity, and ascertain from them who induced them to leave their native countries, respectively; and it shall be the duty of said Commissioner-General of Immigration to receive and keep on file in his office the statements and declarations which may be made by such alien women and girls, and those which are hereinafter required pertaining to such alien women and girls engaged in prostitution and debauchery in this country, and to furnish receipts for such statements and declarations provided for in this act to the persons, respectively, making and filing them.
Every person who shall keep, maintain, control, support or harbor in any house or place for the purpose of prostitution, or for any other immoral purpose, any alien woman or girl within three years after she shall have entered the United States from any country, party to the said arrangement for the suppression of the white-slave traffic, shall file with the Commissioner- General of Immigration a statement in writing setting forth the name of such alien woman or girl, the place at which she is kept, and all facts as to the date of her entry into the United States, the port through which she entered, her age, nationality, and parentage, and concerning her procuration to come to this country within the knowledge of such person, and any person who shall fail within thirty days after such person shall commence to keep, maintain, control, support, or harbor in any house or place for the purpose of prostitution, or for any other immoral purpose, any alien woman or girl within three years after she shall have entered the United States from any of the countries, party to the said arrangement for the suppression of the white-slave traffic, to file such statement concerning such alien woman or girl with the Commissioner-General of Immigration, or who shall knowingly and willfully state falsely or fail to disclose in such statement any fact within his knowledge or belief with reference, to the age, nationality, or parentage of any such alien woman or girl, or concerning her procuration to come to this country, shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor, and on conviction shall be punished by a fine of not more than two thousand dollars, or by imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years, or by both such fine and imprisonment, in the discretion of the court. In any prosecution brought under this section, if it appear that any such statement required is not on file in the office of the Commissioner- General of Immigration, the person whose duty it shall be to file such statement shall be presumed to have failed to file said statement, as herein required, unless such person or persons shall prove otherwise. No person shall be excused from furnishing the statement, as required by this section, on the ground or for the reason that the statement so required by him, or the information therein contained, might tend to criminate him or subject him to a penalty or forfeiture, but no person shall be prosecuted or subjected to any penalty or forfeiture under any law of the United States for or on account of any transaction, matter, or thing, concerning which he may truthfully report in such statement, as required by the provisions of this section. SEC. 7. That the term "Territory," as used in this Act, shall include the district of Alaska, the insular possessions of the United States, and the Canal Zone. The word "person," as used in this Act, shall be construed to import both the plural and the singular, as the case demands, and shall include corporations, companies, societies, and associations. When construing and enforcing the provisions of this Act, the act, omission, or failure of any officer, agent, or other person, acting for or employed by any other person or by any corporation, company, society, or association, within the scope of his employment or office, shall in every case be also deemed to be the act, omission, or failure of such other person, or of such company, society, or association as well of that of the person himself. SEC. 8. That this Act shall be known and referred to as the "White-slave traffic Act."
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because collecting taxes on it would be a bitch
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look @ Netherlands - they seem to handle both with not that much problem
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too many people are making money due to the war on drugs, And I'm not talking about the drug dealers.
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If drugs were made legal half the law enforcement in this country would be unemployed and 80% of the prisons would be shut down. These groups along with the drug companies are always the ones throwing huge money into lobbying against it.
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![]() ![]() That what I was thinking
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it's really simple actually, the government get money from your taxes already to fight these things at state and federal levels. then as a kicker they get to keep all the free houses, boats, money, cars, aircraft, ect... that they seize which when they auction it off gives them what??? MORE MONEY!!! so why would you try to make something legal that already gives you a ton of money? no to mention the fact that all the systems would have to be changed. followed by less money needed for prisons for drug charges, less cops needed, DEA would be no more so you can't justify that money..... Do I really need to keep going?
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I think prostitution is illegal mainly for a conservative/puritan reason. People think it's bad to sell sex so they make it illegal even though it pretty much a victimless crime.
Drugs are illegal, at least the reason given, for the good of society. It is a widespread belief by lawmakers that if all drugs were legal we would end up with a society of junkies and what money we saved on fighting a war on drugs we would spend helping those addicts and paying the costs associated with having them. I'm not so sure that is 100% true, I think employer drug tests along with people just knowing addicts and seeing what it does to you would keep a lot of people away from them. however, one worry is that there would be an increase in "casual" usage. A lot of people have a drink a few times a month or get drunk a couple of times a year, but don't drink daily. There is a thought that a lot of people would start using drugs like alcohol, the problem is a lot of drugs are far more addictive than booze so they would end up hooked. Also the idea that it would cut down on crime isn't realistic. If someone is using meth and gets addicted they will eventually run through their money and may turn to crime to get money for the drug regardless of where they buy it from. In the end I'm not sure where I stand. I think the softer stuff like pot should be legal, but I don't know if making meth legal is such a good thing? A |
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never happen, we started with as puritans and that will never change.
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slavery/racism.
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