Texas Governor ORDERS Little Girls In His State To Get HPV Vaccine

[BoyAlley]

AUSTIN, Texas - Bypassing the Legislature altogether, Republican Gov. Rick Perry issued an order Friday making Texas the first state to require that schoolgirls get vaccinated against the sexually transmitted virus that causes cervical cancer.

Beginning in September 2008, girls entering the sixth grade ? meaning, generally, girls ages 11 and 12 ? will have to receive Gardasil, Merck & Co.?s new vaccine against strains of the human papillomavirus, or HPV.

Merck is bankrolling efforts to pass state laws across the country mandating Gardasil for girls as young as 11 or 12. It doubled its lobbying budget in Texas and has funneled money through Women in Government, an advocacy group made up of female state legislators around the country.

Perry tied to Merck
Perry has ties to Merck and Women in Government. One of the drug company?s three lobbyists in Texas is Mike Toomey, Perry?s former chief of staff. His current chief of staff?s mother-in-law, Texas Republican state Rep. Dianne White Delisi, is a state director for Women in Government.

Pretty scurry when you have a governor ordering drugs on the citizens of his state....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16948093/

[psili]

Are you against immunization shots?

Granted, it's a new vaccine. So I'm torn.
1. You have a vaccine that can prevent forms of cervical cancer.
2. You have a new vaccine that could cause other issues later on that haven't been tested.

*shrug*

[wdsguy]

I'm all for it.

[L-Pink]

"Welcome to Texas"
Vagina inspection station ahead

[Trixxxia]

Originally Posted by psili

Are you against immunization shots?

Granted, it's a new vaccine. So I'm torn.
1. You have a vaccine that can prevent forms of cervical cancer.
2. You have a new vaccine that could cause other issues later on that haven't been tested.

*shrug*

Yeah - I wouldn't let my daughter get a vaccine that can affect her reproductive system RIGHT when she's going through puberty and her reproductive system is developing.

10 years down the line they'll find there was a problem and there are hundreds of thousands of women that can't have babies. The company will say 'sorry', put out some pacifying cash and many couples will be torn/divorces/adoptions/depressions. No thanks - let people choose what they want to get a shot for unless it's something contagious.

[Mr Pheer]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

"Welcome to Texas"
Vagina inspection station ahead

its a vaccine, it doesnt say anything about inspecting vaginas

I guess you think the smallpox vaccine was a bad thing to

[Jay_StandAhead]

Freedom at its best

[Mr Pheer]

Originally Posted by TopBucksTrixxxia

Yeah - I wouldn't let my daughter get a vaccine that can affect her reproductive system RIGHT when she's going through puberty and her reproductive system is developing.

10 years down the line they'll find there was a problem and there are hundreds of thousands of women that can't have babies. The company will say 'sorry', put out some pacifying cash and many couples will be torn/divorces/adoptions/depressions. No thanks - let people choose what they want to get a shot for unless it's something contagious.

hey lets just get rid of all vaccines because every single one of them carries a small amount of risk

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

hey lets just get rid of all vaccines because every single one of them carries a small amount of risk

Or make it a personal choice

[nastynun]

Whats the big deal

we already vaccinate children against another sexually transmitted disease, and the world has not reversed orbit or gone into sexual overdrive as a result. Hepatitis B is (primarily) a sexually transmitted disease against which we have been giving infants the three-part Hep B vaccine series for many years.

[TurboAngel]

I wish I could get it but I'm tooooo old.

[nastynun]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Or make it a personal choice

They do.

The state allows parents to decline any vaccination for their children for medical reasons or because of personal beliefs, Lieber stressed. But some bill critics say that option is little publicized.

[Mr Pheer]

I wonder about the mentality of parents that would refuse a vaccine for thier child when it just may save thier life later down the road.

Or maybe those who are opposed here arent even parents?

[Webby]

Originally Posted by BoyAlley

Pretty scurry when you have a governor ordering drugs on the citizens of his state....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16948093/

Agree BA - No person on the face of this earth has any "rights" to order the injections of kids for anything without either parental consent or a law (which would be passed presumably based on qualified medical advice and not on the advice of a drug manufacturer or the Governor of the State of Texas).

It's obvious Perry needs to be thrown in a jail cell and reminded what freedom and privacy mean. Sadly they are all hypocritical swamplife and have little concern for any children - other than to use them to fill their pockets.


PS The issue of health is another matter - that has nothing to do with either Merck or Perry. The former is a drugs manufacturer and is irrelevant. The latter is unqualified to have any medical opinion and undertook to observe all laws and serve his electorate - not inject them.

[mikeyddddd]

Originally Posted by nastynun

Whats the big deal

It's troubling because of Perry's ties to Merck and Women in Government, as well as his bypassing the state Legislature. He thinks he's his daddy, Dubya.

[Splum]

Hahaha the liberals dont know how to react to this one.
There is already MANDATORY vaccines for sexually transmitted diseases all over America lol.

[Splum]

Originally Posted by mikeyddddd

It's troubling because of Perry's ties to Merck and Women in Government, as well as his bypassing the state Legislature. He thinks he's his daddy, Dubya.

So because you question Perry's motives you want to risk the lives of millions of young women in Texas? WTF is wrong with you?

[Hotrocket]

The part they left out of the story is the parents CAN choose to decline the immunization, thats part of the program..

Texas allows parents to opt out of inoculations by filing an affidavit objecting to the vaccine on religious or philosophical reasons

http://www.kvia.com/Global/story.asp?S=6030624

[nastynun]

Originally Posted by mikeyddddd

It's troubling because of Perry's ties to Merck and Women in Government, as well as his bypassing the state Legislature. He thinks he's his daddy, Dubya.

Thanks I'll have to go read up about him.

[TheDoc]

I hate the entire idea behind vaccines anyway.. My parents, even myself haven’t had any of these vaccines kids must have these days and we are healthy.

I already regulate which ones my kids can have. And since this isn't something that can be spread, no way in hell my 11 year old would ever be allowed to get it. Bs law or not..

Any parent that crams vaccines down kids throats just because a doctor tells you to shouldn't have kids.

[sacX]

Originally Posted by Webby

Agree BA - No person on the face of this earth has any "rights" to order the injections of kids for anything without either parental consent or a law (which would be passed presumably based on qualified medical advice and not on the advice of a drug manufacturer or the Governor of the State of Texas).

It's obvious Perry needs to be thrown in a jail cell and reminded what freedom and privacy mean. Sadly they are all hypocritical swamplife and have little concern for any children - other than to use them to fill their pockets.

PS The issue of health is another matter - that has nothing to do with either Merck or Perry. The former is a drugs manufacturer and is irrelevant. The latter is unqualified to have any medical opinion and undertook to observe all laws and serve his electorate - not inject them.

well parents have the option of opting out. I don't see what the problem is.

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

I wonder about the mentality of parents that would refuse a vaccine for thier child when it just may save thier life later down the road.

Or maybe those who are opposed here arent even parents?

To be honest I worry alot about what is injected in my kids. So many state mandates that they HAVE to have prior to entering school. For instance. My youngest daughter had to get one series of shots twice.. Why? Well the state inspectors came into the area my kids daughter doctor stores the vacinations and it was 1 degree off, so guess what I had to hold my 2 year old daughter while they jammed needles into her twice as much as was necessary. I have no idea what they are injecting. And whether I know by what the pamphlet they give me says or not, how the fuck do I know what they are putting in is a pure batch etc. Its scary to say the least.

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by Hotrocket

The part they left out of the story is the parents CAN choose to decline the immunization, thats part of the program..



http://www.kvia.com/Global/story.asp?S=6030624

For now. At some point if you want your kid to attend school you have to have the vaccination. So either you pay for private school, or dont send your kid to school, at which point you could face charges for not sending them.

[King of Queens]

some can live with out it while others need it.

[sacX]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

I hate the entire idea behind vaccines anyway.. My parents, even myself haven?t had any of these vaccines kids must have these days and we are healthy.

I already regulate which ones my kids can have. And since this isn't something that can be spread, no way in hell my 11 year old would ever be allowed to get it. Bs law or not..

Any parent that crams vaccines down kids throats just because a doctor tells you to shouldn't have kids.

The reason you haven't gotten any of these diseases is because vaccines have reduced the incidence of these diseases so much (at least in western countries), because other thoughtful parents have immunised their children. It's a silly idea to rely on anecdotal evidence that immunisations are a bad idea because "hey I never got immunised and I'm fine"

See for example how vaccination against measles in some developing countries has reduced measles deaths by up to 400,000 a year in just 5 years. http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/.../en/index.html

Vaccines save millions of lives every year, to me it seems very irresponisble not to vaccinate. Obviously a brand new vaccination provides a new layer of concerns as there isn't the long-term data, and to me it wouldn't present quite as clear cut a proposition.

[mikeyddddd]

Originally Posted by Splum

So because you question Perry's motives you want to risk the lives of millions of young women in Texas? WTF is wrong with you?

If there is an epidemic endangering the health of all the young women in Texas then the medical authorities like CDC should get them the vaccinations NOW.

Apparently, that is not the case, so why bypass the Legislature at this point?

[Jace]

one less?

[interracialtoons]

Requiring a vaccine for a sexually transmitted virus for school children is fucking insane. Most will not have sex at all but have to take the risk that this virtually untested shot will actually cause them problems 20 years from now.

STUPID.

[Jace]

required vaccines are nothing new you all

Protecting your child from disease may be the most important thing you can do for her health. Immunizations (sometimes called shots or vaccines) will help keep her safe from 11 serious diseases. Georgia law requires proof that a child is up-to-date before she can go to day care or school.

DTaP: Protects against diphtheria, tetanus and pertussis. A child needs four doses before he is 2 years old and another when he enters school.

Hepatitis B (HB): Three doses protects against hepatitis type B.

Hib: Four doses protects against haemophilus influenzae type b.

MMR: Two doses protects against measles, mumps and rubella. The first dose is given when a child is about 1 year old and the second before he starts school.

Polio: Your child needs four doses to protect him against polio.

Varicella: One dose in children under 12 protects against chickenpox.

[CC]

Vaccines are good, but scary things. This law is just plain stupid; they require it but then basically say "you don't have to do it if you don't want to"....well then it's not required.

[blwurmnd]

OMG... this just makes me mad!!! I personally think its NOT the government's job to mandate a person to do something with their body, especially when it involves risks. So many people just do what they are told without looking further into it. Most of the vaccines required these days are not only unecessary, but you actually have higher chances of suffering a severe side effect from the vaccine than getting whatever it is supposed to protect you against (Hep B is a perfect example... causes autism and a bunch of other junk in BABIES... and the kicker is... the risk groups are drug addicts and ppl who practice unsafe sex... OK, lets risk healthy babies in case later on in life they decide to act like idiots. Oh, and even then, the chances of them getting Heb B are lower than suffering a side effect of the vaccine). Oh yeah, and ON TOP OF ALL THAT... most vaccines are only effective for a few years. If you dont get regular booster shots (something no one does), whats the point? So you wont get chicken pox as a child... if you get it as an adult you could actually die from it!!! Ok, i'll just stop myself here

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by sacX

The reason you haven't gotten any of these diseases is because vaccines have reduced the incidence of these diseases so much (at least in western countries), because other thoughtful parents have immunised their children. It's a silly idea to rely on anecdotal evidence that immunisations are a bad idea because "hey I never got immunised and I'm fine"

See for example how vaccination against measles in some developing countries has reduced measles deaths by up to 400,000 a year in just 5 years. http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/.../en/index.html

Vaccines save millions of lives every year, to me it seems very irresponisble not to vaccinate. Obviously a brand new vaccination provides a new layer of concerns as there isn't the long-term data, and to me it wouldn't present quite as clear cut a proposition.

I did say some.. some vaccines are needed. And measles would be one, and so would any other problem that can kill off half of earth.

Cancer isn't anything even closely related to measles, polio, ect..

Look at the flu shot - people that get it still get the flu - just like people that don't get won't ever get the flu. Kids need to get sick to make the body stronger as adults, adults need to get sick to make us stronger old people.

The human body is built to get sick.. It's built to kill off anything that enters it. Give your mind and body the proper things it needs and it will produce results that have cured cancer, aids, and the even the flu. Introducing man made chemicals into your body at any level isn't good, so why is this?

[blwurmnd]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

I did say some.. some vaccines are needed. And measles would be one, and so would any other problem that can kill off half of earth.

Cancer isn't anything even closely related to measles, polio, ect..

Look at the flu shot - people that get it still get the flu - just like people that don't get won't ever get the flu. Kids need to get sick to make the body stronger as adults, adults need to get sick to make us stronger old people.

The human body is built to get sick.. It's built to kill off anything that enters it. Give your mind and body the proper things it needs and it will produce results that have cured cancer, aids, and the even the flu. Introducing man made chemicals into your body at any level isn't good, so why is this?

Even better... One of my friends got the flu this year b/c of the vaccine!!!

[KustomKowgurl]

Originally Posted by CC

Vaccines are good, but scary things. This law is just plain stupid; they require it but then basically say "you don't have to do it if you don't want to"....well then it's not required.

I'm with you, CC...what's the point?

And it's so new...it doesn't seem fair to me to be subjecting little girls to something that hasn't really been proven for the long term yet.

This is why Kinky Friedman should have been governor ;)

[Webby]

Originally Posted by sacX

well parents have the option of opting out. I don't see what the problem is.

True... Tho "opting out" assumes anyone has "opted in" - this is not the case. Why should any parent have to file affidavits and explain to anyone what they choose to do?

To cut to the chase - they are all crooks and need thrown in jail and wait ten years before letting em "opt out"

[jennym]

Originally Posted by KustomKowgurl

And it's so new...it doesn't seem fair to me to be subjecting little girls to something that hasn't really been proven for the long term yet.

This is the problem I have with the Gov. trying to force this on parents.

[Webby]

Originally Posted by KustomKowgurl

And it's so new...it doesn't seem fair to me to be subjecting little girls to something that hasn't really been proven for the long term yet.

Very valid point!! Neither the drug company or Perry has one clue about the effects (if any) of the product. All they care about is money and using all the usual devious methods to pump crap into as many kids as possible.

[CaptainHowdy]

I'm all for it... HPV can get really ugly for girls.

[tony286]

I think its a good idea HPV is real problem

[pornguy]

I also see both sides of that coin. While I am for cutting back on the cancer, And I know that if it were not required of them, LOTs would not have it, I see the new drug, and wonder how safe, and what could happen in the future.

[studiocritic]

I think a lot of you comparing Smallpox to HPV are out of your minds.

Are you serious?

One is communicative, casually. The other requires, by and large, that you engage in sexual activities with a willing partner.

Two people. Making a decision. Just like it's their right to decide whether they want this.

[Webby]

Originally Posted by pornguy

I also see both sides of that coin. While I am for cutting back on the cancer, And I know that if it were not required of them, LOTs would not have it, I see the new drug, and wonder how safe, and what could happen in the future.

Agree PG - there are two sides and both are valid.

The danger prob creeps in with pressure from elsewhere - ie commercial interests of drugs companies. These rarely have the interests of individuals and, you prob know, "FDA approved" means very little.

I'd hate to be a politician who gave an order for the injection of kids with a product which did not have a full trial history and subsequently turned out to be damaging - but, that too, would be covered up like most drug company problems.

[psili]

Originally Posted by studiocritic

I think a lot of you comparing Smallpox to HPV are out of your minds.

Are you serious?

One is communicative, casually. The other requires, by and large, that you engage in sexual activities with a willing partner.

Two people. Making a decision. Just like it's their right to decide whether they want this.

You're assuming the two people are making an "intelligent" decision and that they want to possibly pass on a virus that can kill the female.

Fuck that shit.

I think humans of this planet should follow the Tehrone and force themselves out of existence if they can't handle it:

[studiocritic]

Originally Posted by psili

You're assuming the two people are making an "intelligent" decision and that they want to possibly pass on a virus that can kill the female.

Fuck that shit.

I think humans of this planet should follow the Tehrone and force themselves out of existence if they can't handle it:

I've read this at least five times, and I can't figure out what your point is.

Are you agreeing with me?

[SomeCreep]

That vaccine is revolutionary. Currently, it only works for women. There is a vaccine in the works for men though also. This vaccine is not a cure for HPV. It only works in preventing HPV, for women who do not already have it.

[Jace]

Originally Posted by SomeCreep

That vaccine is revolutionary. Currently, it only works for women. There is a vaccine in the works for men though also. This vaccine is not a cure for HPV. It only works in preventing HPV, for women who do not already have it.

my sister in law is head of marketing and research of the "one less" campaign for Merck....she LOVES what she is doing for the first time in her life

[uno]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

I already regulate which ones my kids can have. And since this isn't something that can be spread, no way in hell my 11 year old would ever be allowed to get it. Bs law or not...

HPV is an STD and can be spread.

[Nysus]

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

I wonder about the mentality of parents that would refuse a vaccine for thier child when it just may save thier life later down the road.

Or maybe those who are opposed here arent even parents?

All vaccines cause a certain % of death. Causing people to take something is wrong. There are other natural things which can reduce and prevent or aid your body in killing off cancers better.

I bet you are all game for the ads on TV for depression that use sad and depressing music to make people think they're sad or more sad than they really are, and which then reminds them of the prescription medication whenever they're maybe a little sad? That's actually illegal in Canada, though US stations still are able to broadcast them in sadly.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by studiocritic

I've read this at least five times, and I can't figure out what your point is.

Are you agreeing with me?

He's saying that when 2 14 year olds decide to get jiggy with it they aren't exactly considering the consequences, especially consequences they don't even know about.

[spunkmaster]

Originally Posted by Splum

Hahaha the liberals dont know how to react to this one.
There is already MANDATORY vaccines for sexually transmitted diseases all over America lol.

I was at the gym last week and there were about 5-6 nurses talking about this for an hour.

They were all saying the Gov't needs to make this a requirement because it costs over $300 for the shots and insurance companies and medicade etc. won't cover the shots unless it's required just like many other required shots we get.

Women can actually get it by birth (birth canal) when they are born so it doesn't take sex to get the virus.

I suspect that if a liberal govenor did this the left would be calling them a hero !