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hahmike · 08-02-2002, 12:44 AM

hmm... stats haven't updated for 2 hours now, hope they're still counting signups.

anyway, i've heard a lot of stuff about them being accused of heavy shaving, accusations that go anywhere up to 2 out of every 3 signups.

maybe just retards that can't convert their traffic for shit --- otherwise, what is the reason for these accusations?

Socks · 08-02-2002, 12:45 AM

fake ass bitch motherfuckers are responsible.

hahmike · 08-02-2002, 12:46 AM

spare me the ebonics please. :D

Mr.Fiction · 08-02-2002, 12:48 AM

Name an adult webmaster program that hasn't be "accused" of shaving.

Look at your bottom line. If it isn't working for you, take your traffic somewhere else. If it is working, as it does for many people, then stay with it.

Socks · 08-02-2002, 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by hahmike
spare me the ebonics please. :D

On the real, I peeped them run out back of the seven almost dozen.

hahmike · 08-02-2002, 12:52 AM

mr fiction - i know that bro.

i do around ten tracks per day with those guys, count more clicks than any other sponsor i've used and their nasty fetish site kicks azz for me.

however... i'm still hearing a LOT of people bitch about their shit conversions. maybe 'cause they have an honest click count, but i'd imagine that any sponsor shaving signups would also shave clicks to keep their ratios impressive... don't wanna do a vividvip and shave only the signups.

RogerV · 08-02-2002, 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
Name an adult webmaster program that hasn't be "accused" of shaving.

Look at your bottom line. If it isn't working for you, take your traffic somewhere else. If it is working, as it does for many people, then stay with it.

Ain't this the truth. I couldn't have said it better myself

try out every program till you find one that works for you.

Programs need to make money each one has there own formula.
wether they shave joins, don't pay on exits or make there money on cross sales or what ever the case may be.
Its in there best interest to give you the best conversion or payout they can. we all pay to much to lose you. so try everyone out and look at your bottom line.

Sometimes programs just go cold for whatever reason to many to list.
But thats what boards a for to keep you on the pulse of whats hot or not.

What I can tell you is that we are hot right now and thats one of the reasons I'm hiiting the boards our freefreeprogram is rockin

RogerV · 08-02-2002, 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by hahmike
mr fiction - i know that bro.

i do around ten tracks per day with those guys, count more clicks than any other sponsor i've used and their nasty fetish site kicks azz for me.

however... i'm still hearing a LOT of people bitch about their shit conversions. maybe 'cause they have an honest click count, but i'd imagine that any sponsor shaving signups would also shave clicks to keep their ratios impressive... don't wanna do a vividvip and shave only the signups.

The battle between the first page or second page hit his something we talk about all the time.
Webmasters who have been around and know what the bottom line is understand they track there hits going out.
But many just looks at hits and conversions so Most big programs have changed to Second page clicks to make it look better .

give me chance and I'll boost your bottom Line with our Program

ldinternet · 08-02-2002, 01:24 AM

Hey Roger, program looks kickass! Just signed up...

This is probably a little bit much to ask, but is there any chance of making our own tour for the FreeFree program? All the join pages and other important stuff would still be on your end, of course.

RogerV · 08-02-2002, 02:03 AM

You know I'm not much a fan of tour pages either

If you notice the sites on freefreeprogram only have a splash/home page no tour pages and the rest is the join pages.
I totally believe you lose them in the tour that's why its only a dollar they don't need a tour its super cheap.

as long as nothing illegal is being done to get the traffic to our join page its all good.
Example's Beastiality,Under aged pics etc. anything that is illegal is NOT tolerated.

Or If for some reason all your CC's cancel or chargeback because of how you got them to join you will be shut down.
It hasn't happend yet but Just so you know. Keep it real No Funny Buisness

As long as its legal send us your traffic any way you want we will convert it.

Fletch XXX · 08-02-2002, 02:49 AM

If Nasty Dollars does that would suck, I do really good with a few of their sites, conversions at 1:14 and 1:37. I dont dump the volume on them I should, but who knows what people are up to, though I would make no claims of shaving against any sponsor really.

TheFLY · 08-02-2002, 05:47 AM

If the shit don't pay then I move the traffic somewhere else...

Shave all you want mudda fukkas...

I got good peeps begging me for traffic but this is biz not potluck.

I think lots of proggies plan on 95% of affiliates being TGP posters that will send a little bit of traffic and move on -- and that's probably true... so the shaving mechanisms are coded accordingly to make the most bling for the least sing.

I think the problem is that the shaving motherfuckers ignore the other 5% of webmasters (fulltimers) that are in for the long haul... and when I'm getting shaved after the second week or the second month, I can feel it in my carpal tunnels -- then they lose my biz permanently and I tell all my ICQ homeys that they suck dick.

Dirty F · 08-02-2002, 05:58 AM

Nastydollars is my top sponsor atm. They rock. The only thing that is odd about them that almost 50% (!) of my hits get tracked as raw hits. While if i look at my ars stats for example its only a few %

Pornwolf · 08-02-2002, 06:01 AM

Sponsor stats? Never look at them. I look at I-Bill's CMI more than anything else. How much are these folks putting on the next check!

Steve · 08-02-2002, 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheFLY
If the shit don't pay then I move the traffic somewhere else...

Shave all you want mudda fukkas...

I got good peeps begging me for traffic but this is biz not potluck.

I think lots of proggies plan on 95% of affiliates being TGP posters that will send a little bit of traffic and move on -- and that's probably true... so the shaving mechanisms are coded accordingly to make the most bling for the least sing.

I think the problem is that the shaving motherfuckers ignore the other 5% of webmasters (fulltimers) that are in for the long haul... and when I'm getting shaved after the second week or the second month, I can feel it in my carpal tunnels -- then they lose my biz permanently and I tell all my ICQ homeys that they suck dick.

Pipecrew · 08-02-2002, 08:21 AM

just realize that no company can truly pay 35 dollars per TRIAL without shaving

JFPdude · 08-02-2002, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pipecrew
just realize that no company can truly pay 35 dollars per TRIAL without shaving

[sarcasm]

HUH ????

Geeez I'm shocked .... I may even start to believe these shaving myths.

I thought everybody in this industry was straight up honest people.

Thats what I read at http://www.cheatski.com anyways

[/sarcasm]

qdtobbe · 08-02-2002, 08:33 AM

this far nasty is doing good for me hope i will recieve future payments

hatebreed · 08-02-2002, 09:00 AM

Here's my experience:

I send 1500 clicks, get 10 signups.

Sénd another 4500, get 1 signup.

Ok, maybe I was just unlucky I though, I took my girlfriend's credit card, used her info to signup. Guess what:

THAT SIGNUP NEVER WAS SHOWN IN THE STATS! TALK ABOUT SHAVING!

G Sharp · 08-02-2002, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by hatebreed
Here's my experience:

I send 1500 clicks, get 10 signups.

Sénd another 4500, get 1 signup.

Ok, maybe I was just unlucky I though, I took my girlfriend's credit card, used her info to signup. Guess what:

THAT SIGNUP NEVER WAS SHOWN IN THE STATS! TALK ABOUT SHAVING!

Sounds like my experience with TopBucks. [other webmasters' experience may vary]

Sly_RJ · 08-02-2002, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by hatebreed
Here's my experience:

I send 1500 clicks, get 10 signups.

Sénd another 4500, get 1 signup.

Ok, maybe I was just unlucky I though, I took my girlfriend's credit card, used her info to signup. Guess what:

THAT SIGNUP NEVER WAS SHOWN IN THE STATS! TALK ABOUT SHAVING!

One of my clients bought me a membership to Nasty for a project I was working on. Wasn't tracked.

Anyway, I'm happy if I can keep conversions under 1:500. Comes out to about 7 cents per click.

J.R. · 08-02-2002, 09:27 AM

They are big time shavers, they use BIC.

anyways.. yes, I have a shitload of webmasters
that claim that very same thing. Thats why I use
a partnership and not per signup.

I have guys who send me 15 sales every single
day, never below 12 sales. They send traffic
to their sites and they do, 6,7,8.. thats
more then just an accident since our niche
is about the same.

Kimmykim · 08-02-2002, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pipecrew
just realize that no company can truly pay 35 dollars per TRIAL without shaving

Of course they can pipsqueak, you just dont get paid on exits or cross sells or something else.

It's entirely possible to pay 35 bucks on a join if the program owner can make it back somewhere else.

It is NOT possible to pay on everything and at those kinds of rates and stay in business.

Due · 08-02-2002, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RogerV
You know I'm not much a fan of tour pages either

If you notice the sites on freefreeprogram only have a splash/home page no tour pages and the rest is the join pages.
I totally believe you lose them in the tour that's why its only a dollar they don't need a tour its super cheap.

as long as nothing illegal is being done to get the traffic to our join page its all good.
Example's Beastiality,Under aged pics etc. anything that is illegal is NOT tolerated.

Or If for some reason all your CC's cancel or chargeback because of how you got them to join you will be shut down.
It hasn't happend yet but Just so you know. Keep it real No Funny Buisness

As long as its legal send us your traffic any way you want we will convert it.

Sounds good. But I just think it sux that we get no share of it.
I signed up, got the linking codes, clicked a link and got redirected to a dialer popup hell. I think I missed that in your terms?
Also redirecting Danish people to dialers is really stupid since the phone companies in Denmark have blocked all known dialer routes

TheFLY · 08-02-2002, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by hatebreed
Here's my experience:

I send 1500 clicks, get 10 signups.

Sénd another 4500, get 1 signup.

This is exactly what I'm talking about bro... The shave masters aren't dumb asses -- they know there's a 95% chance that you are just a TGP poster who's not going to switch out banners once conversions drop... You're going to leave those galleries up no matter what happens and the fuckers know it too... The TGP's don't help things either -- I hear that they will blacklist you if you make changes to the galleries...

TheFLY · 08-02-2002, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim

Of course they can pipsqueak, you just dont get paid on exits or cross sells or something else.

Since you like to call people names... I think we should call you:

SkimmyKim -- "A little off the top never hurt nobody."

nocostporn · 08-02-2002, 10:10 AM

ahaha skimmy.. nice

Catalinas · 08-02-2002, 10:11 AM

I don't think they shave. I do very well with them consistently, and have had only 4 or so bad days with them in 5 or 6 months. Anyhow, they are on my short list of sponsors who don't shave.

They do produce their own content, which is more likely to keep their members.

nocostporn · 08-02-2002, 10:18 AM

guess i should add my comments... 1)Ok you do well with a sponsor so you don't really care if they shave?(thats what some of you are saying)...think long and hard about how stupid that sounds
2)big program = big stats program = shaves indefinatly..why wouldnt they? its good business..its not like anybody who steps up with proof against ARS about them shaving will be taken seriously
3)if your large and not shaving I have no respect for you

but i still dont expect you to admit to it lol

ahah skimmy thats classic

Sly_RJ · 08-02-2002, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheFLY

Since you like to call people names... I think we should call you:

SkimmyKim -- "A little off the top never hurt nobody."

ldinternet · 08-02-2002, 08:10 PM

Nasty Dollars are pissing me right the fuck off... talk about insulting my intelligence.

An average 15 joins per day has been whittled down to almost nothing. I'm sending more traffic than ever... usually converts 1:600 or better, even in previous bad times it was possible to pull 8 to 9 joins on a bad day. Yesterday I had ONE signup. One down from 15. That is like going from 150 signups per day, to 10 signups per day. This just won't do... There is 4 hours left on today's stats, and I have none. This won't even pay my hosting bill.

Fuck that.

ldinternet · 08-02-2002, 08:11 PM

Is anyone seeing ultra-low signups for the past few days?

Mr.Fiction · 08-02-2002, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ldinternet
Is anyone seeing ultra-low signups for the past few days?

I'm running right about average for the last two days.

I have to agree with Battuss, though.

Why does Nasty track only about 50% of all traffic as "unique" hits. That's totally out of whack with most, if not all, other sponsors.

Something must be messed up with their tracking system?

They are a solid sponsor in my book, raw/unique ratio strangeness or not.

421Fill · 08-02-2002, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction

I'm running right about average for the last two days.

I have to agree with Battuss, though.

Why does Nasty track only about 50% of all traffic as "unique" hits. That's totally out of whack with most, if not all, other sponsors.

Something must be messed up with their tracking system?

They are a solid sponsor in my book, raw/unique ratio strangeness or not.

I've always that that most of the raws were on the exits?? Am I way off base?

Mr.Fiction · 08-02-2002, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by turbo

I've always that that most of the raws were on the exits?? Am I way off base?

That's a good theory. Maybe it's true? Most sponsors don't count the exit pops as clicks, though, from what I can tell.

In the last week my Ox Cash stats show 82% of the traffic as unique. Nasty Dollars shows 52% unique. This traffic is coming from the same sources, so something is different about the way they're tracking it.

08-02-2002, 12:44 AM	#1
hahmike So Fucking Banned Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 2,488	nasty dollars and shaving hmm... stats haven't updated for 2 hours now, hope they're still counting signups. anyway, i've heard a lot of stuff about them being accused of heavy shaving, accusations that go anywhere up to 2 out of every 3 signups. maybe just retards that can't convert their traffic for shit --- otherwise, what is the reason for these accusations?

08-02-2002, 02:49 AM	#11
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	If Nasty Dollars does that would suck, I do really good with a few of their sites, conversions at 1:14 and 1:37. I dont dump the volume on them I should, but who knows what people are up to, though I would make no claims of shaving against any sponsor really. __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

08-02-2002, 08:33 AM	#18
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08-02-2002, 09:00 AM	#19
hatebreed Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 71	Here's my experience: I send 1500 clicks, get 10 signups. Sénd another 4500, get 1 signup. Ok, maybe I was just unlucky I though, I took my girlfriend's credit card, used her info to signup. Guess what: THAT SIGNUP NEVER WAS SHOWN IN THE STATS! TALK ABOUT SHAVING! __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

08-02-2002, 10:10 AM	#27
nocostporn Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Maryland Posts: 5,228	ahaha skimmy.. nice __________________ CashTheChecks.com -coming soon- "Exclusive sites for Exclusive Webmasters" ICQ-119966868,add me first don't message

08-02-2002, 12:45 AM	#2
Socks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,475	fake ass bitch motherfuckers are responsible.

08-02-2002, 12:46 AM	#3
hahmike So Fucking Banned Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 2,488	spare me the ebonics please. :D

08-02-2002, 12:48 AM	#4
Mr.Fiction Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Free Speech Land Posts: 9,484	Name an adult webmaster program that hasn't be "accused" of shaving. Look at your bottom line. If it isn't working for you, take your traffic somewhere else. If it is working, as it does for many people, then stay with it.

08-02-2002, 12:52 AM	#6
hahmike So Fucking Banned Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 2,488	mr fiction - i know that bro. i do around ten tracks per day with those guys, count more clicks than any other sponsor i've used and their nasty fetish site kicks azz for me. however... i'm still hearing a LOT of people bitch about their shit conversions. maybe 'cause they have an honest click count, but i'd imagine that any sponsor shaving signups would also shave clicks to keep their ratios impressive... don't wanna do a vividvip and shave only the signups.

08-02-2002, 01:24 AM	#9
ldinternet Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 8,245	Hey Roger, program looks kickass! Just signed up... This is probably a little bit much to ask, but is there any chance of making our own tour for the FreeFree program? All the join pages and other important stuff would still be on your end, of course.

08-02-2002, 02:03 AM	#10
RogerV Banned! Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,591	You know I'm not much a fan of tour pages either If you notice the sites on freefreeprogram only have a splash/home page no tour pages and the rest is the join pages. I totally believe you lose them in the tour that's why its only a dollar they don't need a tour its super cheap. as long as nothing illegal is being done to get the traffic to our join page its all good. Example's Beastiality,Under aged pics etc. anything that is illegal is NOT tolerated. Or If for some reason all your CC's cancel or chargeback because of how you got them to join you will be shut down. It hasn't happend yet but Just so you know. Keep it real No Funny Buisness As long as its legal send us your traffic any way you want we will convert it.

08-02-2002, 05:47 AM	#12
TheFLY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: http://www.thefly.net/ --- Quit your job and live off steady traffic. Posts: 11,856	If the shit don't pay then I move the traffic somewhere else... Shave all you want mudda fukkas... I got good peeps begging me for traffic but this is biz not potluck. I think lots of proggies plan on 95% of affiliates being TGP posters that will send a little bit of traffic and move on -- and that's probably true... so the shaving mechanisms are coded accordingly to make the most bling for the least sing. I think the problem is that the shaving motherfuckers ignore the other 5% of webmasters (fulltimers) that are in for the long haul... and when I'm getting shaved after the second week or the second month, I can feel it in my carpal tunnels -- then they lose my biz permanently and I tell all my ICQ homeys that they suck dick.

08-02-2002, 05:58 AM	#13
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Nastydollars is my top sponsor atm. They rock. The only thing that is odd about them that almost 50% (!) of my hits get tracked as raw hits. While if i look at my ars stats for example its only a few %

08-02-2002, 06:01 AM	#14
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	Sponsor stats? Never look at them. I look at I-Bill's CMI more than anything else. How much are these folks putting on the next check!

08-02-2002, 08:21 AM	#16
Pipecrew Master of Gfy.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,887	just realize that no company can truly pay 35 dollars per TRIAL without shaving

08-02-2002, 09:27 AM	#22
J.R. WantBoobs.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Calif & Washington Posts: 3,472	They are big time shavers, they use BIC. anyways.. yes, I have a shitload of webmasters that claim that very same thing. Thats why I use a partnership and not per signup. I have guys who send me 15 sales every single day, never below 12 sales. They send traffic to their sites and they do, 6,7,8.. thats more then just an accident since our niche is about the same.

08-02-2002, 10:11 AM	#28
Catalinas Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 346	I don't think they shave. I do very well with them consistently, and have had only 4 or so bad days with them in 5 or 6 months. Anyhow, they are on my short list of sponsors who don't shave. They do produce their own content, which is more likely to keep their members.

08-02-2002, 10:18 AM	#29
nocostporn Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Maryland Posts: 5,228	guess i should add my comments... 1)Ok you do well with a sponsor so you don't really care if they shave?(thats what some of you are saying)...think long and hard about how stupid that sounds 2)big program = big stats program = shaves indefinatly..why wouldnt they? its good business..its not like anybody who steps up with proof against ARS about them shaving will be taken seriously 3)if your large and not shaving I have no respect for you but i still dont expect you to admit to it lol ahah skimmy thats classic __________________ CashTheChecks.com -coming soon- "Exclusive sites for Exclusive Webmasters" ICQ-119966868,add me first don't message

08-02-2002, 08:10 PM	#31
ldinternet Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 8,245	Nasty Dollars are pissing me right the fuck off... talk about insulting my intelligence. An average 15 joins per day has been whittled down to almost nothing. I'm sending more traffic than ever... usually converts 1:600 or better, even in previous bad times it was possible to pull 8 to 9 joins on a bad day. Yesterday I had ONE signup. One down from 15. That is like going from 150 signups per day, to 10 signups per day. This just won't do... There is 4 hours left on today's stats, and I have none. This won't even pay my hosting bill. Fuck that.

08-02-2002, 08:11 PM	#32
ldinternet Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 8,245	Is anyone seeing ultra-low signups for the past few days?