Advices for creating adult modeling agency in Kiev - GoFuckYourself.com

armus · 03-08-2007, 08:06 PM

Well,
Domain is ready, budget is ready, project is ready, entire internet marketing automation systems could be ready but I have no Russian [or Ukrainian] and I need a very social helper in Kiev probably. I was COO of a known hosting service and founder of many serious projects and I am 99.9% sure this project will work however may I have a risk potential with Russian mafia really?
I am going to be there to establish serious business for my project and totally legally but a few of my friends make me afraid about russian mafia may disturb us when we recieve attraction widely in Kiev.
Are there anyone in here from Kiev?
Can tell about Kiev and may even think to get in to partnership by providing entire sociality for this company?

MaDalton · 03-08-2007, 08:09 PM

i think we have found the next darwin award winner

armus · 03-08-2007, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

i think we have found the next darwin award winner

I am sorry, I could not get you.

MaDalton · 03-08-2007, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by armus

I am sorry, I could not get you.

that proves my point

aico · 03-08-2007, 08:15 PM

Sort of like buying a car, then deciding what car you want.

armus · 03-08-2007, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

that proves my point

well are we going to got into a personal discussion, no matter i can, probably you are proving yourself on your own point maybe?

I have not got any time read WTF is this award for but easy to understand about stupidy but I can not see your joint on this, project is a project, just stay away if you are not interested.

Thank you.

Adultnet · 03-08-2007, 08:22 PM

I have no idea but you might try open up and see how it goes. Im sure you can hire some people there that knows how to make things done if you got the cash to spend.

MaDalton · 03-08-2007, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by armus

well are we going to got into a personal discussion, no matter i can, probably you are proving yourself on your own point maybe?

I have not got any time read WTF is this award for but easy to understand about stupidy but I can not see your joint on this, project is a project, just stay away if you are not interested.

Thank you.

dude, you want to do an adult modeling agency in kiev without being there and without knowing someone there? you know that shooting porn in the ukraine is illegal, right? and you wonder if you might get into trouble? ha.

spacedog · 03-08-2007, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

dude, you want to do an adult modeling agency in kiev without being there and without knowing someone there? you know that shooting porn in the ukraine is illegal, right? and you wonder if you might get into trouble? ha.

Hey.. I was looking for something & think maybe I found it.

Turn on your icq

armus · 03-08-2007, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

dude, you want to do an adult modeling agency in kiev without being there and without knowing someone there? you know that shooting porn in the ukraine is illegal, right? and you wonder if you might get into trouble? ha.

I do not want to advertise myself here but if anyone having any curiousity about it, mods just search my name/e-mail on the internet to validate it without publishing me in here ;)
I am from Istanbul and my family city was Antalya, I do not know how many Ukrainian and Russian friend I had had... FYI. If I say Entire Russia and Ukraine richies are in Antalya is summers, i think i wont be a liar
Besides, I had created and runned a US incorporation for a hosting service were providing hosting services over 20.000 web-sites entire world from the otherside of the world according to US. Maybe also I have a great trust to myself?
Maybe I have really great skills and good budget to hire a villa and run the business from there in Kiev and made almost entire of my investigations and only stucked at that: What if really Russian mafia may disturb us when we widely attract Kiev with modeling ADs?

I am about 26 years old and before 30s, I want to do it :D I am serious.

Though wont be a hardcore business, only modeling, first nonnude , then will gone nude after a users elections...

Please PM to get my MSN, thank you. I do not use ICQ or anything other.

Oracle Porn · 03-08-2007, 08:46 PM

There is no mafia in Kiev, Ukraine. It's all just a MYTH!
You can go pimp sluts there as you please and no one will do anything, it's a free country.

armus · 03-08-2007, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Oracle Porn

There is no mafia in Kiev, Ukraine. It's all just a MYTH!
You can go pimp sluts there as you please and no one will do anything, it's a free country.

Thank you for your post.

I think I am looking for an ex or small adult content provider worked in Kiev to participate in this project then.

spacedog · 03-08-2007, 09:20 PM

There's a few people in Kiev already established..

I myself have been talking to my wife & a few contacts over there in Kiev about leaving the US to relocate to Kiev..

Fly me over & I'll work with you.

But keep this in mind, If I go, I can't ever return to the USA

Oh, & don't shoot outdoors near Putin's residence.. ask Star 69

armus · 03-08-2007, 10:08 PM

FYI. my PM is not working, i think because I am new.

webgeek · 03-08-2007, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by armus

I do not want to advertise myself here but if anyone having any curiousity about it, mods just search my name/e-mail on the internet to validate it without publishing me in here ;)
I am from Istanbul and my family city was Antalya, I do not know how many Ukrainian and Russian friend I had had... FYI. If I say Entire Russia and Ukraine richies are in Antalya is summers, i think i wont be a liar
Besides, I had created and runned a US incorporation for a hosting service were providing hosting services over 20.000 web-sites entire world from the otherside of the world according to US. Maybe also I have a great trust to myself?
Maybe I have really great skills and good budget to hire a villa and run the business from there in Kiev and made almost entire of my investigations and only stucked at that: What if really Russian mafia may disturb us when we widely attract Kiev with modeling ADs?

I am about 26 years old and before 30s, I want to do it :D I am serious.

Though wont be a hardcore business, only modeling, first nonnude , then will gone nude after a users elections...

Please PM to get my MSN, thank you. I do not use ICQ or anything other.

don't get me wrong but you're saying you're an entrepreneur and you're trying to get information about a country that you've never been to from a board. and you'll start a business there.

you're either really naive or you've just won the last lottery and you have money to shit away.

armus · 03-08-2007, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by webgeek

don't get me wrong but you're saying you're an entrepreneur and you're trying to get information about a country that you've never been to from a board. and you'll start a business there.

you're either really naive or you've just won the last lottery and you have money to shit away.

It is really not about that, the thing is that I think you could not realize that men are the men, women are the women all over the world[at least in wide Europe], it does not matter from which country really. I know Kiev, yes never gone but I know enough about their business regulations, people from there, cost of living in there, typical eastern EU country but the difference is much more crowded and Kiev is a new developing city and very welcome to foreign investors. Also from tens of thousands of customers, the less problematic customers of us were the Ukranians... Also If you are a smart guy, a good guy, you can do in anywhere. Besides i wont do anything in first month except rushing entire Kiev roads and night clubs and I am not someone may start a new project without planning everything even the possiblity of mafia risk, if it is in there still... ;) I was thinking it for the last 1 month and yes, having no more money problem and I want to enjoy my job now and then... It is all about that.

Thank you.

VideoContentSource · 03-09-2007, 12:20 AM

There are plenty of agencies in Kiev already so be prepared for some serious competition. Apart from that most Ukrainian girls worth shooting are already working in Russia, Hungary or the Czech Republic.

vending_machine · 03-09-2007, 12:33 AM

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I had created and runned a US incorporation for a hosting service were providing hosting services over 20.000 web-sites entire world from the otherside of the world according to US.

LikeWhoa?!

RawAlex · 03-09-2007, 01:10 AM

Step 1: Figure out who you have to pay the overwhelmingly large bribes to in order to stay in business.

Step 2: Find out which local mobster you have to pay off.

Step 3: Find out which neighborhood bully you have to slip some cash to.

Step 4: Figure out that if you actually pay all these people, and pay your "business taxes" to the government, that you will have very few dollars left (which I would recommend keeping for a casket in case of failure to make the payments in steps 1 - 3).

Good luck.

DarkJedi · 03-09-2007, 01:54 AM

As an Ukrainian, I advise you NOT to do it.

Trust me on that one. (or hit me up for a more detailed explanation)

Star 69 · 03-09-2007, 07:44 AM

I am from Kiev and I used to live there for 22 years. I ahve a lot of friends there hit me up on ICQ 206668535

Star 69 · 03-09-2007, 12:01 PM

Mafia people do not give a shit about your business trust me.

AllStar · 03-09-2007, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Star 69

Mafia people do not give a shit about your business trust me.

Everybody thinks the mob is involved in the adult industry around the world. That has to be the biggest misconception in the world. First there is not enough money, second it invloves a lot of work and third it invloves dealing with flaky women. Combine all 3 and there is no way a sane person who do it...lol

DonkeyPunchProductions · 03-09-2007, 12:47 PM

Dude, to reduce likelihood of having to deal with mob get in and out. Spend two weeks nabbing as much content as possible and then split. If you get the requisite 2257 paperwork stay in touch.

Star 69 · 03-09-2007, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by AllStar

Everybody thinks the mob is involved in the adult industry around the world. That has to be the biggest misconception in the world. First there is not enough money, second it invloves a lot of work and third it invloves dealing with flaky women. Combine all 3 and there is no way a sane person who do it...lol

Yes you are right!

alexanderv · 03-09-2007, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by armus

well are we going to got into a personal discussion, no matter i can, probably you are proving yourself on your own point maybe?
I have not got any time read WTF is this award for but easy to understand about stupidy but I can not see your joint on this, project is a project, just stay away if you are not interested.
Thank you.

The darwin award is given to the families of those who die in the most stupid death. So it's like when you die this way you give space to more developed personalities and in this way you help the natural selection.

Brad · 03-09-2007, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DonkeyPunchProductions

Dude, to reduce likelihood of having to deal with mob get in and out. Spend two weeks nabbing as much content as possible and then split. If you get the requisite 2257 paperwork stay in touch.

that's what I was thinking too

LustyBucks · 03-09-2007, 02:19 PM

I don't think you should worry about the mafia

Better pay attention to possible problems with police - shooting porn in Urkaine is illegal activity.

Star 69 · 03-09-2007, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by LustyBucks

I don't think you should worry about the mafia

Better pay attention to possible problems with police - shooting porn in Urkaine is illegal activity.

We are shooting in Ukraine fro a long time and never had any problems with police

armus · 03-09-2007, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by LustyBucks

I don't think you should worry about the mafia

Better pay attention to possible problems with police - shooting porn in Urkaine is illegal activity.

I wont shoot any hardcore scene. Will be just a modeling web-site. Will go non-nude by the paid attentions, votes to create known stars by the subscriber only.
Is this still may thought porn/hardcore?
Can we tell the exact names?
Nude modeling illegal in Ukraine

I can not believe in this, no way.

Star 69 · 03-09-2007, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by armus

I wont shoot any hardcore scene. Will be just a modeling web-site. Will go non-nude by the paid attentions, votes to create known stars by the subscriber only.
Is this still may thought porn/hardcore?
Can we tell the exact names?
Nude modeling illegal in Ukraine

I can not believe in this, no way.

armus I am from Kiev and now i am living in Russia and i am going to Kiev in a couple weeks. I have many friends there plus i will be coming back to Kiev every 3 month oe even every 2 month. Hit me up on ICQ 206668535

armus · 03-09-2007, 04:43 PM

well my PM has not been activated but registered my new ICQ finally, lol 408194556

AtlantisCash · 03-09-2007, 05:02 PM

Kardesh yahu, et satmak Turk'e Yakishirmi? bosh ver 1 suru ish var.

Sen daha iyi bilirsin tabi ama, herkes yaparda pek bize gore degil bu tarz ishler vicdanımız kaldirmaz, Biz et satamayiz, gerci seni kishisel olarak tanimiyorum ama, bir kardesh tavsiyesi.

illa da niyetin varsa sponsor site falan kur derim ordada birkach yollu hatun bulup resmini videosunu checkcen nasil olsa, hic olmazsa bizden biri piyasaya girdi etti der seviniriz.

Star 69 · 03-09-2007, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AtlantisCash

Kardesh yahu, et satmak Turk'e Yakishirmi? bosh ver 1 suru ish var.

Sen daha iyi bilirsin tabi ama, herkes yaparda pek bize gore degil bu tarz ishler vicdanımız kaldirmaz, Biz et satamayiz, gerci seni kishisel olarak tanimiyorum ama, bir kardesh tavsiyesi.

illa da niyetin varsa sponsor site falan kur derim ordada birkach yollu hatun bulup resmini videosunu checkcen nasil olsa, hic olmazsa bizden biri piyasaya girdi etti der seviniriz.

What did he said?

AtlantisCash · 03-09-2007, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Star 69

What did he said?

Nothing bad bro, i said him, don't do this, set sponsor sites etc.

as i know he is a Turkish & can understand what i said.

armus · 03-09-2007, 07:26 PM

he had talked very empty... veyr empty, i just skipped it.tell these things to the Hakan K , lol or just get out of this board.

armus · 03-09-2007, 07:34 PM

Star 69 was so helpful, thank you for all. The purpose of this thread ends for me ;)

Star 69 · 03-10-2007, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by armus

Star 69 was so helpful, thank you for all. The purpose of this thread ends for me ;)

I am glad that i helped you

Kevsh · 03-10-2007, 05:18 AM

1) If you're Turkish I wouldn't go advertising that fact in Kiev. There is a distrust among Ukrainian/Russian women towards Turks and for good reason - whether it's not just a myth, many Ukr/Rus women were sold in Turkey and they can still be very suspicious. I know this for a fact.

2) If you are in the adult biz and looking for attractive women, that is a given I'd think, then you will have more trouble.

Hire a local to be the "face" and don't even mention the word turkey unless you're bringing some over for dinner.

armus · 03-10-2007, 10:56 AM

I hate from these kind of things, trouble. Just do not involve, I am not going to establish a political party in there , i do not have any business with these kind of things however i am sure that, if you have business with political things then you will face off with the political issues, if you do not have any business then its all about the character of the human though i assure you we are not middle eastern looking even.
But bastards are at everywhere and could not stand without issuing something political, it does not matter whats it about, just do not care and do not got into polemics. I am more than experienced about these things in the life. Thank you for your advices.
... and I am not a person really may have these kind of looking :D do not worry, Regarding human trade, it is in the hand of kurds not the Turks to be honest and as far as i know they are being hunted in the villages for the naive girls, not in the city center with lots of budget and with a know background and the brand ;)

But please again its better to know but more better stay away to not attract the people eat their brains with the politics instead of living the life...

03-08-2007, 08:06 PM	#1
armus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 235	Advices for creating adult modeling agency in Kiev Well, Domain is ready, budget is ready, project is ready, entire internet marketing automation systems could be ready but I have no Russian [or Ukrainian] and I need a very social helper in Kiev probably. I was COO of a known hosting service and founder of many serious projects and I am 99.9% sure this project will work however may I have a risk potential with Russian mafia really? I am going to be there to establish serious business for my project and totally legally but a few of my friends make me afraid about russian mafia may disturb us when we recieve attraction widely in Kiev. Are there anyone in here from Kiev? Can tell about Kiev and may even think to get in to partnership by providing entire sociality for this company? Last edited by armus; 03-08-2007 at 08:08 PM..

03-08-2007, 08:09 PM	#2
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03-08-2007, 08:22 PM	#7
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03-08-2007, 08:46 PM	#11
Oracle Porn Affiliate Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Icq: 94-399-723 Posts: 24,433	There is no mafia in Kiev, Ukraine. It's all just a MYTH! You can go pimp sluts there as you please and no one will do anything, it's a free country. __________________

03-08-2007, 09:20 PM	#13
spacedog Yes that IS me. Bitch. Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 14,149	There's a few people in Kiev already established.. I myself have been talking to my wife & a few contacts over there in Kiev about leaving the US to relocate to Kiev.. Fly me over & I'll work with you. But keep this in mind, If I go, I can't ever return to the USA Oh, & don't shoot outdoors near Putin's residence.. ask Star 69 Last edited by spacedog; 03-08-2007 at 09:21 PM..

03-08-2007, 08:15 PM	#5
aico Moo Moo Cow Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Washington State Posts: 14,748	Sort of like buying a car, then deciding what car you want.

03-08-2007, 10:08 PM	#14
armus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 235	FYI. my PM is not working, i think because I am new.

03-09-2007, 12:20 AM	#17
VideoContentSource Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Spain Posts: 549	There are plenty of agencies in Kiev already so be prepared for some serious competition. Apart from that most Ukrainian girls worth shooting are already working in Russia, Hungary or the Czech Republic. __________________ Dirk Sales Manager [email protected] ICQ 247-256-080

03-09-2007, 01:10 AM	#19
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	Step 1: Figure out who you have to pay the overwhelmingly large bribes to in order to stay in business. Step 2: Find out which local mobster you have to pay off. Step 3: Find out which neighborhood bully you have to slip some cash to. Step 4: Figure out that if you actually pay all these people, and pay your "business taxes" to the government, that you will have very few dollars left (which I would recommend keeping for a casket in case of failure to make the payments in steps 1 - 3). Good luck.

03-09-2007, 01:54 AM	#20
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	As an Ukrainian, I advise you NOT to do it. Trust me on that one. (or hit me up for a more detailed explanation)

03-09-2007, 07:44 AM	#21
Star 69 Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Russia Posts: 8,602	I am from Kiev and I used to live there for 22 years. I ahve a lot of friends there hit me up on ICQ 206668535 __________________ e-mail star69

03-09-2007, 12:01 PM	#22
Star 69 Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Russia Posts: 8,602	Mafia people do not give a shit about your business trust me. __________________ e-mail star69

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DonkeyPunchProductions Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: back in la Posts: 188	Dude, to reduce likelihood of having to deal with mob get in and out. Spend two weeks nabbing as much content as possible and then split. If you get the requisite 2257 paperwork stay in touch. __________________ donkey, donkey www.velvetdonkey.com

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03-09-2007, 04:43 PM	#32
armus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 235	well my PM has not been activated but registered my new ICQ finally, lol 408194556

03-09-2007, 05:02 PM	#33
AtlantisCash Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Istanbul - Turkiye Posts: 3,179	Kardesh yahu, et satmak Turk'e Yakishirmi? bosh ver 1 suru ish var. Sen daha iyi bilirsin tabi ama, herkes yaparda pek bize gore degil bu tarz ishler vicdanımız kaldirmaz, Biz et satamayiz, gerci seni kishisel olarak tanimiyorum ama, bir kardesh tavsiyesi. illa da niyetin varsa sponsor site falan kur derim ordada birkach yollu hatun bulup resmini videosunu checkcen nasil olsa, hic olmazsa bizden biri piyasaya girdi etti der seviniriz. __________________ Kız telefonları \| Telefonda seks sohbet

03-09-2007, 07:26 PM	#36
armus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 235	he had talked very empty... veyr empty, i just skipped it.tell these things to the Hakan K , lol or just get out of this board.

03-09-2007, 07:34 PM	#37
armus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 235	Star 69 was so helpful, thank you for all. The purpose of this thread ends for me ;)

03-10-2007, 05:18 AM	#39
Kevsh Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: TO Posts: 8,619	1) If you're Turkish I wouldn't go advertising that fact in Kiev. There is a distrust among Ukrainian/Russian women towards Turks and for good reason - whether it's not just a myth, many Ukr/Rus women were sold in Turkey and they can still be very suspicious. I know this for a fact. 2) If you are in the adult biz and looking for attractive women, that is a given I'd think, then you will have more trouble. Hire a local to be the "face" and don't even mention the word turkey unless you're bringing some over for dinner.

03-10-2007, 10:56 AM	#40
armus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 235	I hate from these kind of things, trouble. Just do not involve, I am not going to establish a political party in there , i do not have any business with these kind of things however i am sure that, if you have business with political things then you will face off with the political issues, if you do not have any business then its all about the character of the human though i assure you we are not middle eastern looking even. But bastards are at everywhere and could not stand without issuing something political, it does not matter whats it about, just do not care and do not got into polemics. I am more than experienced about these things in the life. Thank you for your advices. ... and I am not a person really may have these kind of looking :D do not worry, Regarding human trade, it is in the hand of kurds not the Turks to be honest and as far as i know they are being hunted in the villages for the naive girls, not in the city center with lots of budget and with a know background and the brand ;) But please again its better to know but more better stay away to not attract the people eat their brains with the politics instead of living the life...