ETELEGATE / IBILL STILL STEALING FROM WEBMASTERS ! Want Your MONEY? Inside Now! - GoFuckYourself.com

DEA - banned for life · 03-15-2007, 10:43 AM

Etelegate is now ripping off webmasters just like IBILL Did. They are not paying webmasters.The ones getting paid are seeing there revenue taken by mysterious refunds and chargbacks that just dont seem to add up with there own records. Read For Yourself https://www.etelegate.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=1

Do Not Use ETELEGATE !

If you have oustanding revnue from ETELEGATE or IBILL Fill out the form on this webpage That Merchan risk managment has put up.

http://www.collectfromibill.com/

Somone from Merchant Risk Managent will contacnt you shortly.
They are experts in assett recovery and are working on getting a settlement from the likes of IBILL and ETELEGATE.

FUCK ETELEGATE FUCK IBILL FUCK PAYMONDE FUCK GLOBILL FUCK GCARD

Forest · 03-15-2007, 11:15 AM

bump for the warning

Screaming · 03-15-2007, 11:20 AM

bump for the fuckers...

TGPTeam · 03-15-2007, 11:25 AM

bump
damn ibill

The Dawg · 03-15-2007, 11:32 AM

Who is merchant risk management?

Gaybucks · 03-15-2007, 12:46 PM

So how, exactly, are these people planning to recover anything from Ibill when the company no longer exists and has no assets? It was a corporation and getting money from the individuals who bled it is near impossible.

Klen · 03-15-2007, 01:30 PM

I already know it etelgate is crap beacuse there was many bad factors-ibill merchant base,shitty and low informative web page,forum without any reply to customer questions,and also dating gold use them and run away fast from them.

chupacabra · 03-15-2007, 01:41 PM

avoid etelerape at all costs... although to be honest, they aren't really just a front for iBill, they existed well before the iBill merger/selling of clients to them and already had a shady enough reputation before collaborating w/ iBill.

they are an absolute rogue operation though, after iBill sold all of our rebills to them they started double and triple billing our customers whenever they could get away w/ it, even cancelled accounts were being rebilled if the card info was still valid... funny thing though, about 2 months ago some clueless rep from their company emailed us out of the blue asking for a valid password-pair for our website so they could "review our sites again", utterly nuts since we had told them to kiss off altogether last year. bunch of thugs, avoid at all costs..

DEA - banned for life · 03-15-2007, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaybucks

So how, exactly, are these people planning to recover anything from Ibill when the company no longer exists and has no assets? It was a corporation and getting money from the individuals who bled it is near impossible.

not sure of the details but i think they go after the poeple behind the coproration.ALL i know for sure os there pros' at what they do and i ha ve nothing to lose by adding my name to the list.

ETELEGATE & IBILL Are Shit Stay away...FAR AWAY !

www.collectfromibill.com

FUCK IBILL FCK ETELEGATE FUCK PAYMONDE FUCK GLOBILL

tony286 · 03-15-2007, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaybucks

So how, exactly, are these people planning to recover anything from Ibill when the company no longer exists and has no assets? It was a corporation and getting money from the individuals who bled it is near impossible.

ibill does still exist, they own part of xtv. They are just not processing.

DEA - banned for life · 03-16-2007, 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404

ibill does still exist, they own part of xtv. They are just not processing.

Yep..so theres money to be had...they have assetts that can be seized.

Klen · 03-16-2007, 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEA

not sure of the details but i think they go after the poeple behind the coproration.ALL i know for sure os there pros' at what they do and i ha ve nothing to lose by adding my name to the list.

ETELEGATE & IBILL Are Shit Stay away...FAR AWAY !

www.collectfromibill.com

FUCK IBILL FCK ETELEGATE FUCK PAYMONDE FUCK GLOBILL

Bump for fucking etelgate.

Shoplifter · 03-19-2007, 05:47 AM

They are still processing our legacy Ibill users without any payout since December 15 2006. Absolute naked theft.

not2new · 03-25-2007, 10:16 PM

I just cant understand why people just dont go over to Verotel or CCBill......
You dont stand a chance with a company like Etelegate. From what i understand , the principles @ Etel were fliping houses and ran into a IT guy that had access to a third generation( or whorse ) processing platform (they were all hanging at the same bar). They all got drunk , grabed a couple of accounts from a friend of the IT guy that works for the bank that they currently use (symetrix) , got placement on a couple of cascade systems and Bam there in business. next thing you know IBill comes along in trouble and they con Spaniak into a mass data migration and as soon as it was completed ( the migration) they wouldnt return Spaniaks calls.....
I think that the only possible threat that can be used against Etel or any one else is the Mass Data Migration. Totaly against Visa / MC policy.....
alot of nice / hard working people just keep getting hurt from these loosers.These scum bags just keep putting out the same old letters ; dont worry we are gonna pay , its not our fault , etc.....
Maybe the Data Migration issue is the key. i heard about it from an old ibill IT guy. again , not against the law but Visa/ MC i think might flip if it were brought to there attention. i checked a bunch of gfy threads and havent seen any reference to the migration. hope the info helps...best of luck.
By the way , Mike and Gilbert are a class act over at Verotel. These guys are trying there best to EARN business and you can always get threw to them for assistance. I like having guys like these two on my side. Give em a try, even as a secoundery. We need more people like Mike and Gilbert in the biz , people that dont shut there phone off @ 5:01 pm. best of luck to all.

tony286 · 03-25-2007, 10:31 PM

has anyone spoke to the collection people ? if so what is their take of the money collected?

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 03-25-2007, 11:45 PM

Just a hunch, but I think the missing $20 million ($25,000+ of which was money owed to me), ended up as the investments that iBill (IBDI) put into XTV and PMGI (Penthouse) around the time the money disappeared.

A good lawyer or honest Justice Department official should look into where the money went (iBill never honestly answered that question), and determine if there was a conspiracy amongst iBill (Gary Spaniak, Jr and company), and the entities that received such iBill investments (if that is what occured).

If what I suspect is the case, then I believe that the companies receiving the investments know (or should have known) full well, that the money came from ripping off scores of webmasters who had earned that money but were never paid.

I think that if this were to occur, that the webmasters could get their money back, plus damages, and hopefully the scoundrels that perpetrated the rip-off/fraud/malfeasance would end up behind bars too.

ADG Webmaster

AK · 03-26-2007, 09:04 AM

bump for good cause

seeric · 03-26-2007, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Just a hunch, but I think the missing $20 million ($25,000+ of which was money owed to me), ended up as the investments that iBill (IBDI) put into XTV and PMGI (Penthouse) around the time the money disappeared.

ADG Webmaster

i wouldnt have a hard time believing this.

DEA - banned for life · 03-26-2007, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by not2new

I just cant understand why people just dont go over to Verotel or CCBill......
You dont stand a chance with a company like Etelegate. From what i understand , the principles @ Etel were fliping houses and ran into a IT guy that had access to a third generation( or whorse ) processing platform (they were all hanging at the same bar). They all got drunk , grabed a couple of accounts from a friend of the IT guy that works for the bank that they currently use (symetrix) , got placement on a couple of cascade systems and Bam there in business. next thing you know IBill comes along in trouble and they con Spaniak into a mass data migration and as soon as it was completed ( the migration) they wouldnt return Spaniaks calls.....
I think that the only possible threat that can be used against Etel or any one else is the Mass Data Migration. Totaly against Visa / MC policy.....
alot of nice / hard working people just keep getting hurt from these loosers.These scum bags just keep putting out the same old letters ; dont worry we are gonna pay , its not our fault , etc.....
Maybe the Data Migration issue is the key. i heard about it from an old ibill IT guy. again , not against the law but Visa/ MC i think might flip if it were brought to there attention. i checked a bunch of gfy threads and havent seen any reference to the migration. hope the info helps...best of luck.
By the way , Mike and Gilbert are a class act over at Verotel. These guys are trying there best to EARN business and you can always get threw to them for assistance. I like having guys like these two on my side. Give em a try, even as a secoundery. We need more people like Mike and Gilbert in the biz , people that dont shut there phone off @ 5:01 pm. best of luck to all.

Questiom: did gilbert previously work for IBILL?

Barefootsies · 03-26-2007, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by not2new

I just cant understand why people just dont go over to Verotel or CCBill......

TRUE DAT

aico · 03-26-2007, 10:30 AM

what exactly did you think was going to happen?

Gerco · 04-11-2007, 10:50 AM

Might as well try, I have already looked at the $10,277.61 that Ibill owed me (Statement from their (Ibills) own papers back in April of 2006) And Etelegate processed another 1500 bucks or so, and never paid out a cent. In fact, I called Etelegate today about this because this thread reminded me of them.. I was told that the owed moneys on the account, which was officially closed in July of 2006 after I found out what was going on, where still on hold from the bank.

mmaisonet · 04-11-2007, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by not2new

I just cant understand why people just dont go over to Verotel or CCBill......

By the way , Mike and Gilbert are a class act over at Verotel. These guys are trying there best to EARN business and you can always get threw to them for assistance. I like having guys like these two on my side. Give em a try, even as a secoundery. We need more people like Mike and Gilbert in the biz , people that dont shut there phone off @ 5:01 pm. best of luck to all.

A little late. but better late than ever.. Thanks for the kind words...

DebsDeep · 04-12-2007, 05:54 AM

I filled that form out oh about a year or so ago for risk management....got one auto response...havent heard a thing since...so.....
doesnt look to promising

Taniwha · 04-12-2007, 04:16 PM

These people are bullshit. They want you to pay fees upfront for legal services and are not taking any risk in trying to get your money back. They cant lose. They get their fees either way. They are just another scammer trying to prey on peoples misfortune.

NickXXX · 10-08-2007, 08:21 PM

So did anyone get paid so far?

Gerco · 10-11-2007, 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickXXX

So did anyone get paid so far?

Hell no, have to date never recieved anything from Ibill OR etelegate.

DebsDeep · 10-11-2007, 07:28 AM

bump cuz ibill owes me 15K
and i never used etelegate but they have billed customers of mine....
Oh and did i mention the 2500.00 NSF check i hav here from ibill?

10-11-2007, 07:36 AM

look who is taking http://www.ibill.com traffic

wateva · 10-11-2007, 07:43 AM

sad................looks another scam........

lhlook · 10-12-2007, 11:12 AM

Really great to hear that, in my etelegate-merchant-account, or whatever company it is, cuz there is also maturebill.com named, it is also an *old* iBill-Merchant Account where, what a surprise, I got twice a wire-transfer... back before it changed to etelegate.. was about $200 or so.

Now the stats say...
Since Jan 1st
Approved: $3,960.92

never got a damn Wire Transfer or a check or whatever...

A damn year ago the same BS with a lil european payment (you know, friends and so that did a payment, mostly for german-direct-debit) that was about ? 1'500.00

Any damn chance to get these nearly 4k somehow or is it really completely senseless? Or.. did someone got some money, the last weeks?months? whatever?

And... any thrusthworth billing system you can name, beside of ccBill or Verotel? Verotel is not really fitting my needs and ccBill did not want to bill some of my sites cuz of the niches...

Aside of the rest.. English is not my native, and yeah I am not really someone that posts in boards, but I am reading here from time to time since several years..

DEA - banned for life · 08-21-2009, 08:19 AM

Fuck ibill

Dirty Dane · 08-21-2009, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEA

FUCK ETELEGATE FUCK IBILL FUCK PAYMONDE FUCK GLOBILL FUCK GCARD

You forgot Globosale. Or is globill former globosale??

CaptainHowdy · 08-21-2009, 08:23 AM

Bastards

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03-15-2007, 10:43 AM	#1
DEA - banned for life V.I.P. Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: InYour Head Posts: 7,886	ETELEGATE / IBILL STILL STEALING FROM WEBMASTERS ! Want Your MONEY? Inside Now! Etelegate is now ripping off webmasters just like IBILL Did. They are not paying webmasters.The ones getting paid are seeing there revenue taken by mysterious refunds and chargbacks that just dont seem to add up with there own records. Read For Yourself https://www.etelegate.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=1 Do Not Use ETELEGATE ! If you have oustanding revnue from ETELEGATE or IBILL Fill out the form on this webpage That Merchan risk managment has put up. http://www.collectfromibill.com/ Somone from Merchant Risk Managent will contacnt you shortly. They are experts in assett recovery and are working on getting a settlement from the likes of IBILL and ETELEGATE. FUCK ETELEGATE FUCK IBILL FUCK PAYMONDE FUCK GLOBILL FUCK GCARD

03-15-2007, 11:20 AM	#3
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03-15-2007, 11:25 AM	#4
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03-15-2007, 12:46 PM	#6
Gaybucks Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 451	So how, exactly, are these people planning to recover anything from Ibill when the company no longer exists and has no assets? It was a corporation and getting money from the individuals who bled it is near impossible. __________________ Gaybucks.com 100% exclusive American guys - hosted movie galleries - NATS - Boyfunk.com - Boysfeetclub.com - AJsCloset.com- SkylerDeVoss.com ICQ 272-995-402

03-15-2007, 01:41 PM	#8
chupacabra Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,626	avoid etelerape at all costs... although to be honest, they aren't really just a front for iBill, they existed well before the iBill merger/selling of clients to them and already had a shady enough reputation before collaborating w/ iBill. they are an absolute rogue operation though, after iBill sold all of our rebills to them they started double and triple billing our customers whenever they could get away w/ it, even cancelled accounts were being rebilled if the card info was still valid... funny thing though, about 2 months ago some clueless rep from their company emailed us out of the blue asking for a valid password-pair for our website so they could "review our sites again", utterly nuts since we had told them to kiss off altogether last year. bunch of thugs, avoid at all costs.. __________________ ...promise her a defamation, tell her where the rain will fall..

03-15-2007, 11:15 AM	#2
Forest Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hollywood Fl. Posts: 8,973	bump for the warning

03-15-2007, 11:32 AM	#5
The Dawg Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: State Of Bliss Posts: 2,438	Who is merchant risk management?

03-15-2007, 01:30 PM	#7
Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,235	I already know it etelgate is crap beacuse there was many bad factors-ibill merchant base,shitty and low informative web page,forum without any reply to customer questions,and also dating gold use them and run away fast from them.

03-19-2007, 05:47 AM	#13
Shoplifter Richest man in Babylon Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Posts: 10,002 Posts: 5,679	They are still processing our legacy Ibill users without any payout since December 15 2006. Absolute naked theft.

03-25-2007, 10:16 PM	#14
not2new Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Right behind you. Posts: 62	I just cant understand why people just dont go over to Verotel or CCBill...... You dont stand a chance with a company like Etelegate. From what i understand , the principles @ Etel were fliping houses and ran into a IT guy that had access to a third generation( or whorse ) processing platform (they were all hanging at the same bar). They all got drunk , grabed a couple of accounts from a friend of the IT guy that works for the bank that they currently use (symetrix) , got placement on a couple of cascade systems and Bam there in business. next thing you know IBill comes along in trouble and they con Spaniak into a mass data migration and as soon as it was completed ( the migration) they wouldnt return Spaniaks calls..... I think that the only possible threat that can be used against Etel or any one else is the Mass Data Migration. Totaly against Visa / MC policy..... alot of nice / hard working people just keep getting hurt from these loosers.These scum bags just keep putting out the same old letters ; dont worry we are gonna pay , its not our fault , etc..... Maybe the Data Migration issue is the key. i heard about it from an old ibill IT guy. again , not against the law but Visa/ MC i think might flip if it were brought to there attention. i checked a bunch of gfy threads and havent seen any reference to the migration. hope the info helps...best of luck. By the way , Mike and Gilbert are a class act over at Verotel. These guys are trying there best to EARN business and you can always get threw to them for assistance. I like having guys like these two on my side. Give em a try, even as a secoundery. We need more people like Mike and Gilbert in the biz , people that dont shut there phone off @ 5:01 pm. best of luck to all. __________________ *[email protected]* ICQ : 405993908 I can help you.... Free service, I am a former 3pp sales director. I am currently researching the best 3pp's and merchant banks. Reputation , Pay-Out Consistancy and Client Service. In light of the past 1 1/2 years of 3pp's going under and taking your hard earned $ with them, i strongly suggest that you conact me. I can get you , at least , 1% discount on your current fee/rate. I dont want you to give up your current 3pp , i simply want you to diversify your risk.This is a Free service. cc,checks,etc...

03-25-2007, 10:31 PM	#15
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	has anyone spoke to the collection people ? if so what is their take of the money collected?

03-25-2007, 11:45 PM	#16
AsianDivaGirlsWebDude Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 38,323	Just a hunch, but I think the missing $20 million ($25,000+ of which was money owed to me), ended up as the investments that iBill (IBDI) put into XTV and PMGI (Penthouse) around the time the money disappeared. A good lawyer or honest Justice Department official should look into where the money went (iBill never honestly answered that question), and determine if there was a conspiracy amongst iBill (Gary Spaniak, Jr and company), and the entities that received such iBill investments (if that is what occured). If what I suspect is the case, then I believe that the companies receiving the investments know (or should have known) full well, that the money came from ripping off scores of webmasters who had earned that money but were never paid. I think that if this were to occur, that the webmasters could get their money back, plus damages, and hopefully the scoundrels that perpetrated the rip-off/fraud/malfeasance would end up behind bars too. ADG Webmaster __________________ Asian Diva Girls - Exclusive Photos and Videos Asian Diva Girls Affiliate Program (50% ccBill Revshare)

03-26-2007, 09:04 AM	#17
AK MadZuma Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California Posts: 6,436	bump for good cause __________________ Alfonsus Kusuma (AK) ak at madzuma.com skype me - alfonsus.com

03-26-2007, 10:30 AM	#21
aico Moo Moo Cow Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Washington State Posts: 14,748	what exactly did you think was going to happen?

04-11-2007, 10:50 AM	#22
Gerco Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,052	Might as well try, I have already looked at the $10,277.61 that Ibill owed me (Statement from their (Ibills) own papers back in April of 2006) And Etelegate processed another 1500 bucks or so, and never paid out a cent. In fact, I called Etelegate today about this because this thread reminded me of them.. I was told that the owed moneys on the account, which was officially closed in July of 2006 after I found out what was going on, where still on hold from the bank. __________________ Http://www.extremehole.com ** CLOSED ** 400 HOURS of exclusive custom extreme content, already on external HD in Raw DV ready to encode. over 150,000 exclusive images and more.

04-12-2007, 05:54 AM	#24
DebsDeep Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,649	I filled that form out oh about a year or so ago for risk management....got one auto response...havent heard a thing since...so..... doesnt look to promising __________________ http://www.gothamscreenprinting.com Cheapest T's Online. $5 tshirts printed, no minimums, no fees of anykind!!!!

04-12-2007, 04:16 PM	#25
Taniwha Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 20	These people are bullshit. They want you to pay fees upfront for legal services and are not taking any risk in trying to get your money back. They cant lose. They get their fees either way. They are just another scammer trying to prey on peoples misfortune.

10-08-2007, 08:21 PM	#26
NickXXX Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: ICQ - 630684946 Posts: 696	So did anyone get paid so far?

10-11-2007, 07:28 AM	#28
DebsDeep Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,649	bump cuz ibill owes me 15K and i never used etelegate but they have billed customers of mine.... Oh and did i mention the 2500.00 NSF check i hav here from ibill? __________________ http://www.gothamscreenprinting.com Cheapest T's Online. $5 tshirts printed, no minimums, no fees of anykind!!!!

10-11-2007, 07:36 AM	#29
esnem Guest Posts: n/a	look who is taking http://www.ibill.com traffic

10-11-2007, 07:43 AM	#30
wateva So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 492	sad................looks another scam........

10-12-2007, 11:12 AM	#31
lhlook Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Somewhere in Cyberspace Posts: 17	Really great to hear that, in my etelegate-merchant-account, or whatever company it is, cuz there is also maturebill.com named, it is also an old iBill-Merchant Account where, what a surprise, I got twice a wire-transfer... back before it changed to etelegate.. was about $200 or so. Now the stats say... Since Jan 1st Approved: $3,960.92 never got a damn Wire Transfer or a check or whatever... A damn year ago the same BS with a lil european payment (you know, friends and so that did a payment, mostly for german-direct-debit) that was about ? 1'500.00 Any damn chance to get these nearly 4k somehow or is it really completely senseless? Or.. did someone got some money, the last weeks?months? whatever? And... any thrusthworth billing system you can name, beside of ccBill or Verotel? Verotel is not really fitting my needs and ccBill did not want to bill some of my sites cuz of the niches... Aside of the rest.. English is not my native, and yeah I am not really someone that posts in boards, but I am reading here from time to time since several years..

08-21-2009, 08:19 AM	#32
DEA - banned for life V.I.P. Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: InYour Head Posts: 7,886	Fuck ibill

08-21-2009, 08:23 AM	#34
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