LENSMAN - ZANGO read this.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Never in the history of the internet have i seen such blatant copyright theft taking place, and the sponsors involved dont seem to be very proactive about it. Some even supporting these companies..

Guess who the 2 advertisers i see most commonly on these copyright theft sites.

AFF and ZANGO

This is disrespectfull to the affiliates , AND the models.


Why am i singling out lensman ? Because he is gfy , and has a unique op to help the industry by taking a hard stance.

Be proactive. WE DONT SUPPORT SPYWARE and will CAN ANY AFFILIATE or PARTNER SENDING US TRAFFIC USING THESE COMPANIES.



As a realitycash affiliate it makes it hard to sell your sites when FULL site rips are available freely on the net and NOTHING is done, not even cutting off the person profiting from your stolen material ( i.e. zango )

thanks for your time

-end rant

[polish_aristocrat]

interesting post

[comstar]

yes this could be really interesting

[will76]

I have a suspicion that these people just really don't care. Lensman and Lars have both made their money. I am sure they both are set for life even if they fuck up a bunch of times.

This would make you think all the more that money wouldn't matter as much since they have done so well for themselves and maybe they would do the right thing even though it might make them a few bucks less.

For example, say zango contributes to less than 1% of your income and you have a lot of money. Wouldn't it be more fufilling to do the right the right thing, be a leader, try to help the people who have helped you get to where you are ?

Unfortunetly it seems the more money people make the more greedy they get, and that is a dangerous combination... lots of money (power) and greed.

Maybe I will be proven wrong. I can only hope.

[xclusive]

Great post smokey, I will also pledge a lot of traffic to the people that battle the scumware.

[martinsc]

this could get interesting...
sig spot secured

[pussyluver]

Originally Posted by martinsc

this could get interesting...
sig spot secured

naw, just another Zango thread dominated by Willie.

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

Never in the history of the internet have i seen such blatant copyright theft taking place, and the sponsors involved dont seem to be very proactive about it. Some even supporting these companies..

Guess who the 2 advertisers i see most commonly on these copyright theft sites.

AFF and ZANGO


-end rant

post these sites so we can see their advertisers and support your position.

[Huggles]

Smokey,


What can be done?


It seems to me there are more people on this forum willing to help spread it than stop it. SEVERAL people on here have admitted to help spread installers and nobody except Will76 has condemned them. It seems people are so easily able to turn a blind eye to it. It's unfortunate because at the same time they are also turning a blind eye to the sales they are LOSING through hijacking.

[martinsc]

Originally Posted by pussyluver

naw, just another Zango thread dominated by Willie.

hmmm... you mean i wasted a perfect sigspot?

[Violetta]

hmm... I have noticed the the stealing, and I agree that something should be done. Though, Im not sure it is possible to stop this. Some people always put money before anything else.

[bobby666]

i really have no idea

[webmasterchecks]

the reality is that programs are afraid to fuck with the spyware guys, just as they are afraid to fuck with email guys, you piss them off and you become a martyr. what if all of the sudden they say "your canceling my accounts? im going to set dns redirection so that nobody with my software on their computers can get to your sites, that traffic gets sent elsewhere"

there is a cost to being a martyr

[DatingGold]

please post a URL so we can check it out

[Dirty F]

I think Lensman reaaaaaaaaaaallly cares about this.

[RawAlex]

Lars will buy Lensman a drink at the next convention, getting him back into the "bro" club and it will all be forgotten.

[vvq]

by bringing attention to the problem you only make the problem bigger. this is GFY. it's full of snakes that will line up to use Zango. every day you guys make posts about it you send them more customers to leach everyones traffic.

[tony286]

great post but sadly nothing will be done

[»Rob Content«]

I think asking Lensman or others to take a stance is not going to get much of a response. What really needs to be done is getting the people who made the people like Lens and Lars and others rich, the affiliates, the people with traffic.

They need to come together and fight it that way.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

post these sites so we can see their advertisers and support your position.

http://www.xxmovies.info/one-on-one/...ssa/#more-7785

adbrite zango and others

rip from realitycash

[will76]

Originally Posted by vvq

by bringing attention to the problem you only make the problem bigger. this is GFY. it's full of snakes that will line up to use Zango. every day you guys make posts about it you send them more customers to leach everyones traffic.

LOL sorry can't help but laugh. So damned if you do damned if you don't. So no attention should be brought to the problem and it just keeps happening. Or you educate people so they know what is going on.

I still fail to see how educating people is making it worse ? please explain.

[mailman]

But AFF buys ads here on GFY...

Just shhhhhhh and make this thread go away....

lol

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

Guess who the 2 advertisers i see most commonly on these copyright theft sites.

AFF and ZANGO

and number 3 = Sexsearch

[will76]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

http://www.xxmovies.info/one-on-one/...ssa/#more-7785

adbrite zango and others

rip from realitycash

fuck adbrite, if they are going to accept traffic from sites like that I will never use them again. Oh wait I was never using them again because they fucked up my account, and their traffic was shit. Now I know why, the traffic i was buying was coming from sites like the one posted above.

[will76]

Originally Posted by mailman

But AFF buys ads here on GFY...

Just shhhhhhh and make this thread go away....

lol

it will be bumped for a few weeks then it will be locked.

don;t want threads like this to clutter up the main page, it might make it hard for people to find all the contest threads.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by vvq

by bringing attention to the problem you only make the problem bigger. this is GFY. it's full of snakes that will line up to use Zango. every day you guys make posts about it you send them more customers to leach everyones traffic.

Thats fine too .. as long as the lines are drawn.. right now everything is hush hush dont ask dont tell.

I just want to know who to support and who not too, and when the balance leans towards one or the other we can go in that direction..

For the most part my traffic is zango free as i cut them off at the spigot so if everyone on the web promoted them it wouldnt bother me really, infact it would make it alot more clear if everyone did.

[tranza]

It would be awesome to see Lensman make a statement here and ban both Zango and AFF from GFY.

[V_RocKs]

Can someone ICQ me if Lensman posts in this thread?

[will76]

Originally Posted by vvq

every day you guys make posts about it you send them more customers to leach everyones traffic.

I missed this. but i have replied that question you made previously a couple times. I guess you seem to ignore it each time.


A side affect is that zango may get more customers, shaddy fuckers buying traffic. Fine, I get to see who these people are who think that zango is an opertunity for them to steal from me and everyone else, and they will be on my do not do business with list.

The side affect is only that it makes zango more money because the traffic prices get bid higher, since more shaddy assholes bidding on it. It's my traffic if you going to steal it at least i caused you to make less profit off of my traffic. Look at AFF, because of all the zango stuff here they can no longer make a profit from it. That wasn't our intention but it does give a little satisfaction, even if it is just a sliver.

No more pop ups are happening now then they were before zango was posted here, no more traffic being stolen. Only difference now is the cost of the traffic is going up for the assholes buying it.

Now if all of this zango stir caused more people to go run out and do zango installs than yes we would be doing more harm than good. That has not happened and no one with 1/2 a brain would be stupid enough to go do zango installs after finding out how they really work.

Please reply back with something other than sarcasm. I would love to see you debate this with me or prove where what I am doing, and others, is actually hurting us and we should shut up like you suggested.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

post these sites so we can see their advertisers and support your position.

p.s. on a totally unrelated note..

i was srfing around the other day , and stumbled upon www.12xcoeds.com looks unfinished but the tour page www.12xcoeds.com/index2.php seems to work redirected to 12xcoed.com ( no s )

looks like you own both but one is perhaps the demo template, might wanna fix that for members who type in the url so their not confused..

[Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE]

That fucking sucks!

[Randyyy]

thiefs!!!!

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by tranza

It would be awesome to see Lensman make a statement here and ban both Zango and AFF from GFY.

well ideally i would like to see aff ban zango ties including any affiliates or sub affiliates of people who buy traffic through them

then we can all ban zango from adult.

Theres a much bigger issue here is the ability for adult webmasters to work as a somewhat team to have some resemblance of ethics.

GFY was a quite unique place for things to actually get done. If someone was stealing copyright mtaerial or child porn or virus or email spam , all you had to do was make a post and all his advertisers would ban him.. via the gfy jury.. you could count on the fact that the next week you would no longer see those ads there..

With certain sponsors now ignoring such requests , these ethics are fading away along with gfy's credibility or any of the sponsors who advertise here, if its only about the money then the trust in affiliation is no longer there..


I think by taking hard stances only boosts gfy's credibility and the same for anyone who does the same.

[SexualDragon]

Lensman? care to comment?

[Bloomer]

Im not sure about this do you have substantial proof that this board supports and funds ZANGO?
If you do please make it a little bit more open to us all.....
Please post some definate (Screenshots if possible)!!!!!
I trust no 1.

[Jace]

AFF making money from stolen reality cash content

http://www.btmon.com/torrent/teen%20hitchhikers

[Jace]

aff supporting the theft of reality cash content AGAIN

http://www.btmon.com/Porn/Unsorted/A...torrent.htm l

[Jace]

AFF paying another site to STEAL reality cash content

http://torrentz.ws/torrent/307397/Au...sage-Pizza-avi

[fris]

www.shooshtime.com
www.piratebay.org
www.puretna.com

all AFF sponsors

[Bloomer]

Originally Posted by will76

I have a suspicion that these people just really don't care. Lensman and Lars have both made their money. I am sure they both are set for life even if they fuck up a bunch of times.

This would make you think all the more that money wouldn't matter as much since they have done so well for themselves and maybe they would do the right thing even though it might make them a few bucks less.

For example, say zango contributes to less than 1% of your income and you have a lot of money. Wouldn't it be more fufilling to do the right the right thing, be a leader, try to help the people who have helped you get to where you are ?

Unfortunetly it seems the more money people make the more greedy they get, and that is a dangerous combination... lots of money (power) and greed.

Maybe I will be proven wrong. I can only hope.

Im not sure about your claims it seems like you are always putting down AFF as some type of lure to find more people to respond to your accusations or something.
Sure its easy to proclaim that other people are making money of adaware and zango but I dont understand how your not banned with your accusations as of yet!
In my opinion you are their publicity
Are you sure your not working for them?????
Now that seems more likely hmmmmmm????

[Jace]

wow, another site that aff funds that is stealing reality cash content

http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3628740/...Carolyn_Monroe

[Jace]

Originally Posted by Bloomer

Im not sure about your claims it seems like you are always putting down AFF as some type of lure to find more people to respond to your accusations or something.
Sure its easy to proclaim that other people are making money of adaware and zango but I dont understand how your not banned with your accusations as of yet!
In my opinion you are their publicity
Are you sure your not working for them?????
Now that seems more likely hmmmmmm????

AFF and Adbrite/AVNads are the worst of them all, and they are also 100% in our reach, so it is only natural to go after the ones in our community first....they are there, and they are listening, in fact I would venture to guess Sagi and Lars (barely owns anything) are reading this thread right now

[Jace]

datinggold.com supporting content theft

http://www.torrentspy.com/torrent/60...otorren t_com

Real Girls Near Jacksonville, FL Looking For Cybersex/Real FUCK Friends Tonight-100% FREE

[Bloomer]

Originally Posted by Jace

AFF paying another site to STEAL reality cash content

http://torrentz.ws/torrent/307397/Au...sage-Pizza-avi

ok I understand what I read but that does not prove that anyone that owns this web board is in on it does it?
give me some proof cause there are a shit load more sponsors and such that support Zango and this board just beacause they put up banners for them does not mean that they support this type of crap!
Its not them when its everyone else see??
its just business

[Jace]

AFF once AGAIN on ANOTHER torrent site

http://torrentz.ws/torrent/187984/Br...ig-Tit-Bangers

[Jace]

Originally Posted by Bloomer

ok I understand what I read but that does not prove that anyone that owns this web board is in on it does it?
give me some proof cause there are a shit load more sponsors and such that support Zango and this board just beacause they put up banners for them does not mean that they support this type of crap!
Its not them when its everyone else see??
its just business

Lensman owns this web board, and also runs/owns playboycash.com and realitycash.com

Sagi and Lars own AFF

you pretty new at this huh?

[mattz]

stop reading good old threads and putting them in your own words to make yourself look better

[fris]

i dont know why they dont just hire 1 person full time in charge of taking care of the content theft, they have so many employees now, whats one more.

[Bloomer]

Honestly Thats like sayin if I run AFF ads on my 600+websites that I support Zango!
LOL the bottom line is I dont care how I make money and neither does anyone else in this business!!!!
Nobody cares as long as they get a check in the mail and I have gotten Quite a few of em from the people you accuse so I dont give a fuck!
Go smoke some more pot kid cause Im sure in six more months youll be posting the same shit under a different thread

[Aussie Rebel]

Great post Smokey, but unless webmasters boycott these sites as a whole, nothing is going to be done, Until these cocksuckers like lars start losing money from being sued for supporting all this stolen content nothing will be done.