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Old 05-01-2007, 08:15 PM   #1
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Gas prices sky rocket once again....

and by no strange coincidence, Imperial Oil reports record profits of $704 million dollars in the first quarter, up 31%!

How has it come to this? Is there nothing we can do??
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Old 05-01-2007, 08:22 PM   #2
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Old 05-01-2007, 08:25 PM   #3
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Stuart, the records profits have to be considered in terms of return on investment.

With the price of oil being significantly higher, a 10% profit is a much larger number. I would be much more interested to see what the profit margins as a percentage of business are, what the cash flow returns are, etc... I would bet you that the oil companies aren't making out anywhere near as good as the headline number might make you think.
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Old 05-01-2007, 08:28 PM   #4
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just got done riding down to CVS - drugstore .. at 3.00 a gallon.. fuck that i'll ride around when i can
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Old 05-01-2007, 08:29 PM   #5
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Will they ever stop rising...or are we all gona be walking to work soon? Bring on the Hybrid cars I say!
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Old 05-01-2007, 08:29 PM   #6
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3.00 - 3.15 a gallon in the valley
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Old 05-01-2007, 08:31 PM   #7
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Hybrid still using gaz, might be 100% electrics or hydro, might be better , even for the earth health
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Old 05-01-2007, 08:32 PM   #8
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$1.36/L here for 94oct, but im pretty sure vancouver has the highest gas prices in canada
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In Montreal it is at 1.06 right now
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Old 05-01-2007, 08:35 PM   #10
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About ready to hit $3/gallon here. Hasn't been that high yet
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Old 05-01-2007, 08:43 PM   #11
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I hope the price of gas doubles. I'll still be able to afford it, and the rest of the idiots won't - and they'll be off the road.
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Stuart, the records profits have to be considered in terms of return on investment.

With the price of oil being significantly higher, a 10% profit is a much larger number. I would be much more interested to see what the profit margins as a percentage of business are, what the cash flow returns are, etc... I would bet you that the oil companies aren't making out anywhere near as good as the headline number might make you think.

they still give their CEOs and upper management millions...
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Allright!!! well minded that way! lolll i'll smille at every raises LOL but still Pain when you do the full for a hundred box instead of 60
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Old 05-01-2007, 08:59 PM   #14
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they still give their CEOs and upper management millions...
Yup - but if they turned 7 billion dollars, a 10% profit in theory is 700 million.

Corporate pay is way out of hand, but the oil industry isn't any better or worse than many others.

I don't apologize for them, but "record profits" as a number is nothing without showing what the actual percentage is.
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Feb. 20, 2007 -- Wal-Mart Stores, Inc. (NYSE: WMT) today reported record sales and earnings for the quarter ended Jan. 31, 2007. Net sales for the fourth quarter were $98.090 billion, an increase of 10.9 percent over the fourth quarter of fiscal year 2006. Income from continuing operations for the quarter was $3.940 billion, an increase of 8.8 percent from $3.621 billion in the fourth quarter of fiscal year 2006.


Don't worry about oil companies.. worry about wal-mart killing our society.
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Old 05-01-2007, 10:22 PM   #16
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hope prices dont raise too much higher they definitely affect sales.
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Old 05-01-2007, 10:24 PM   #17
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some places are $3.5+/gallon in WA
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Old 05-01-2007, 10:26 PM   #18
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Old 05-01-2007, 10:29 PM   #19
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Stuart, the records profits have to be considered in terms of return on investment.

With the price of oil being significantly higher, a 10% profit is a much larger number. I would be much more interested to see what the profit margins as a percentage of business are, what the cash flow returns are, etc... I would bet you that the oil companies aren't making out anywhere near as good as the headline number might make you think.
The problem with your theory is that the oil companies cook their books. They split everything into different companies. One deals with the oil drilling and exploration. One deals with refining. another with the pipelines. One with delivering the gas. One with that owns the stations. these boys are smart enough to not show their profits as one large company because it is so obscene.

These companies should be hit with a windfall tax and tried for war profiteering.
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Feb. 20, 2007 -- Wal-Mart Stores, Inc. (NYSE: WMT) today reported record sales and earnings for the quarter ended Jan. 31, 2007. Net sales for the fourth quarter were $98.090 billion, an increase of 10.9 percent over the fourth quarter of fiscal year 2006. Income from continuing operations for the quarter was $3.940 billion, an increase of 8.8 percent from $3.621 billion in the fourth quarter of fiscal year 2006.


Don't worry about oil companies.. worry about wal-mart killing our society.
When there is a republican in the white house and the economy sucks, walmart does great. Look up how much wally world gave to gwb to get him elected.
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Stuart, the records profits have to be considered in terms of return on investment.
Don't worry about ROI - that is more than healthy and reflected in share value..

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Imperial Oil net income for the first quarter of 2007 of $774 million or $0.81 a share, compared with $591 million or $0.59 a share for the same period last year.
Reasons for the increase are mainly higher than expected realization of oil volumes and lower operating costs.
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When there is a republican in the white house and the economy sucks, walmart does great. Look up how much wally world gave to gwb to get him elected.
Kinda strange eh? Especially when Walmart is the largest individual corp contributing to the balance of payments deficit
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Don't worry about ROI - that is more than healthy and reflected in share value..



Reasons for the increase are mainly higher than expected realization of oil volumes and lower operating costs.
Reasons for increase are higher than expected gas prices. You actually believe their talking points?
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Old 05-02-2007, 12:48 AM   #24
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Reasons for increase are higher than expected gas prices. You actually believe their talking points?
Well... not exactly

That was the reason given in their accounting statement - but... well....
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Exactly Zuss - some folks have no clue about real values Whining over having to actually pay for gas :-)
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cut down in how much you use gas

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I thnk the whole country should boycott filling gas at least one day a week, all on the same day
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and by no strange coincidence, Imperial Oil reports record profits of $704 million dollars in the first quarter, up 31%!

How has it come to this? Is there nothing we can do??
You can do nothing. The biggest mistake the world made was to allow such a dependency to be in the hands of private business; ruled by OPEC who can pretty much just lie to everyone over and over again without factual proof of these shortages, etc just to drive the prices up.
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you have to stop driving for once a week for that to work.
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