Is there still money to be made in porn? - GoFuckYourself.com

maxjohan · 05-11-2007, 09:32 AM

Are all the pipelines locked or something?

One traffic
source so far 0:1920

Three years ago I did 1:300 constant and over 550% ROI with
the same source and marketing methods and money invested,

Is this the downfall of porn?

We have YouTube kind of sites, we have
filesharing, bittorrent and 1000s of tgps and mgps
feeding the crowd...

I read a study not too long ago that one of the things
that is in the prospects mind when they make a buying
decision is:: Can I get this for FREE somewhere else?

I was like no shit, what does that have to do with porn sales?

Can you still make $10K a month in this business?

Freeboyd · 05-11-2007, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by maxjohan

Can you still make $10K a month in this business?

Absolutely

tehHinjew · 05-11-2007, 09:34 AM

make a torrent site and promote weg cash

maxjohan · 05-11-2007, 09:34 AM

Oh I forgot, we have spyware, cheaters, crooks and liars..

maxjohan · 05-11-2007, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Freeboyd

Absolutely

I bet that you make that alone from granny? Want to give me a bone?

the alchemist · 05-11-2007, 09:36 AM

Of course, there's still many ways to make a lot of money but you have to work hard, put in some efforts and think outside of the box that was made 15 years ago.

polish_aristocrat · 05-11-2007, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by maxjohan

Can you still make $10K a month in this business?

no, $9800 is really the max.

commonsense · 05-11-2007, 09:37 AM

Yes. Porn is a harder sell today than it was 3 years ago. Didn't think that information was classified.

Dirty Dane · 05-11-2007, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by maxjohan

Oh I forgot, we have spyware, cheaters, crooks and liars..

And dollar is low

Barefootsies · 05-11-2007, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by maxjohan

Can you still make $10K a month in this business?

Yes.

Sosa · 05-11-2007, 09:42 AM

yeah 3-4 years ago you would use 1:300-1:400 and be like wtf heh. Times have changed, surfers have changed, alot more programs and throw in hijackers/spyware

polish_aristocrat · 05-11-2007, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Yes.

Barefootsies, yo, come to Amsterdam to party with me, Franck and Jedi

maxjohan · 05-11-2007, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by tehHinjew

make a torrent site and promote weg cash

Yeah, seems like the "more you give" the -more you get-

Guess I need to give away more porn.. only way to survive really

I need to upgrade my 9.95 hosting plan first

Aussie Rebel · 05-11-2007, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by tehHinjew

make a torrent site and promote weg cash

dont forget to add DatingGold & AFF they thrive on torrent traffic

Ronzo · 05-11-2007, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by maxjohan

Yeah, seems like the "more you give" the -more you get-

Guess I need to give away more porn.. only way to survive really

Will assume you were being sarcastic. Giving away porn to sell it is a very flawed strategy that many "webmasters"... especially newbies... are practicing. It's the reason why conversion ratios have soared in the last few years, and why it's getting harder and harder to sell porn. There's just way too much free stuff out there.

pornmasta · 05-11-2007, 09:57 AM

imo the speed of connection and a wider use of dsl (less expensive than 56k) is a the real cause of the problem:
you can distribute your content easier and you can download it in seconds: you don't have to pay because you are looking for somthing free while your connection cost money, so it is less interresting to buy a membership.

pornmasta · 05-11-2007, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by maxjohan

so far 0:1920

Three years ago I did 1:300 constant

0.1% of odds it happens.
Rare.

Bike · 05-11-2007, 10:16 AM

it's really not that hard to make 10k/month in this business - just find something that works for you and duplicate it

just copying others wont work...you have to make something unique

and dont stick to one site, make 100's of sites and duplicte the ones that work best/make the most $$$

it's so cheap to try stuff in this business

just my 2cents, it worked pretty well for me ;)

falcao · 05-11-2007, 10:17 AM

Yeah, there's money in porn, and you can make $10,000 a month fairly easily. What are you selling? How are you trying to sell it?

maxjohan · 05-11-2007, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Bike

it's really not that hard to make 10k/month in this business - just find something that works for you and duplicate it

just copying others wont work...you have to make something unique

and dont stick to one site, make 100's of sites and duplicte the ones that work best/make the most $$$

it's so cheap to try stuff in this business

just my 2cents, it worked pretty well for me ;)

Good to hear advice from someone that have made it, thanks

maxjohan · 05-11-2007, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by falcao

Yeah, there's money in porn, and you can make $10,000 a month fairly easily. What are you selling? How are you trying to sell it?

True, you have to find an USP
and ask a few questions to yourself and maybe also
to your market

Thanks,

tiger · 05-11-2007, 10:26 AM

Nope, no money to be made. Time to quit and get a job at the hut.

Viper2K1 · 05-11-2007, 10:38 AM

i have 2 things to say

don't judge on ratios, or atleast not on such a small number as 2K
if you have links "click here to see more" or "click here to join for only 29.95/month" ... you can imagine ratios will be different etc etc

if you think 10K profit can be made easy, then it will just drive you crazy

Barefootsies · 05-11-2007, 10:41 AM

Here's where you lost me...

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

Barefootsies, yo, come to Amsterdam to party with me, Franck and Jedi

polish_aristocrat · 05-24-2007, 06:52 AM

bump for business thread

Wizzo · 05-24-2007, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by maxjohan

Three years ago I did 1:300 constant and over 550% ROI with
the same source and marketing methods and money invested,

You must adapt, I could make a $1000 a day in 98 with TGP galleries that had 10pics and banner, today wouldn't make shit.

Today, we still do hundreds of sales per day, so the money is still out there!

fallenmuffin · 05-24-2007, 06:59 AM

10k is my goal but haven't reached it yet stuck at 4k... so i suppose.

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

no, $9800 is really the max.

Best answer

Screaming · 05-24-2007, 07:06 AM

im happy with what im making

stillsexy · 05-24-2007, 08:54 AM

man, i gotta learn more from you guys....

fris · 05-24-2007, 08:56 AM

sell drugs online

maxjohan · 05-24-2007, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Fris

sell drugs online

I've been thinking a lot and thats's Exactly what I came up with! Lure them in with Porn and sell them some other shit, that's the future of adult internet

Vick! · 05-24-2007, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by maxjohan

Three years ago I did 1:300 constant and over 550% ROI with
the same source and marketing methods and money invested,

Do you seriously hope to earn SAME money with SAME marketing methods and techniques you used to use 3 years back? C'mon dude, its not 2001 .. Improve your skills and marketing methods, you need more and better input to make same output as you used to do.

But yes, I agree with you .. global conversions are falling, really. Mainly due to that "Can I get this thing somewhere free?" thing ... I personally think we only sell to amateur surfers or some dumbs. Any experienced bitch wont buy, because they know where and how to get same shit without paying a dime.

CWeb · 05-24-2007, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by maxjohan

Is there still money to be made in porn?

No.. it's time to pack up

Seriously... you have been in the biz for 3 years? Nothing is going to stay the same. What worked well a couple of years ago, - bets on, that will have changed.

Never sit back and think that will continue - sure as hell it won't. Keep pushing original ideas if possible, and if only one out of ten work - duplicate that one.

The vast majority of new webmasters never earn anything worthwhile - it's just a matter of being flexible and never sitting still

CWeb · 05-24-2007, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Vick!

Do you seriously hope to earn SAME money with SAME marketing methods and techniques you used to use 3 years back? C'mon dude, its not 2001 .. Improve your skills and marketing methods, you need more and better input to make same output as you used to do.

But yes, I agree with you .. global conversions are falling, really. Mainly due to that "Can I get this thing somewhere free?" thing ... I personally think we only sell to amateur surfers or some dumbs. Any experienced bitch wont buy, because they know where and how to get same shit without paying a dime.

What you said ^^^^

wyldworx · 05-24-2007, 02:25 PM

it seems to take a little more dedication and beleif than it used to, but with all the bullshit atm ie. replacing refcodes; general theft; fraudulent sites which ultimately cheat webmasters out of a living such as torrent and zango; liars at gfy that would rather send you on a bumsteer as opposed to informing you truthfully; The fact that juicy has decided to get a haircut - people are always more interested in what he is doing as opposed to maintaining their own biz-nezz --- it is no wonder.

maxjohan · 05-24-2007, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Vick!

But yes, I agree with you .. global conversions are falling, really. Mainly due to that "Can I get this thing somewhere free?" thing ... I personally think we only sell to amateur surfers or some dumbs. Any experienced bitch wont buy, because they know where and how to get same shit without paying a dime.

Yeah, it's not only adult who have changed, everything is changed.

""Today, the best selling rap artist is white (Eminem), the most successful golfer is black (Tiger Woods), the tallest basketball player in the NBA is Chinese (Yao Ming), the French have been accusing Americans of being condescending and not caring about the views of foreigners, we now pay for water (bottled water is $9 a gallon) while music is free (sort of), and you need 9 different phone numbers to reach any two of your friends. I could go on and on?""

I grabbed that from a Marketing blog.. but you get the point

05-11-2007, 09:32 AM	#1
maxjohan Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 7,219	Is there still money to be made in porn? Are all the pipelines locked or something? One traffic source so far 0:1920 Three years ago I did 1:300 constant and over 550% ROI with the same source and marketing methods and money invested, Is this the downfall of porn? We have YouTube kind of sites, we have filesharing, bittorrent and 1000s of tgps and mgps feeding the crowd... I read a study not too long ago that one of the things that is in the prospects mind when they make a buying decision is:: Can I get this for FREE somewhere else? I was like no shit, what does that have to do with porn sales? Can you still make $10K a month in this business?

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tiger Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,986	Nope, no money to be made. Time to quit and get a job at the hut. __________________

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commonsense So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,790	Yes. Porn is a harder sell today than it was 3 years ago. Didn't think that information was classified.

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Sosa In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 40,149	yeah 3-4 years ago you would use 1:300-1:400 and be like wtf heh. Times have changed, surfers have changed, alot more programs and throw in hijackers/spyware

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pornmasta Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 19,216	imo the speed of connection and a wider use of dsl (less expensive than 56k) is a the real cause of the problem: you can distribute your content easier and you can download it in seconds: you don't have to pay because you are looking for somthing free while your connection cost money, so it is less interresting to buy a membership.

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Bike Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,363	it's really not that hard to make 10k/month in this business - just find something that works for you and duplicate it just copying others wont work...you have to make something unique and dont stick to one site, make 100's of sites and duplicte the ones that work best/make the most $$$ it's so cheap to try stuff in this business just my 2cents, it worked pretty well for me ;)

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Viper2K1 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,006	i have 2 things to say don't judge on ratios, or atleast not on such a small number as 2K if you have links "click here to see more" or "click here to join for only 29.95/month" ... you can imagine ratios will be different etc etc if you think 10K profit can be made easy, then it will just drive you crazy __________________ Spank me Dude, where's my traffic?

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Screaming I can change this!!!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 18,972	im happy with what im making __________________

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wyldworx So Fucking Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: oz-trailer Posts: 5,144	it seems to take a little more dedication and beleif than it used to, but with all the bullshit atm ie. replacing refcodes; general theft; fraudulent sites which ultimately cheat webmasters out of a living such as torrent and zango; liars at gfy that would rather send you on a bumsteer as opposed to informing you truthfully; The fact that juicy has decided to get a haircut - people are always more interested in what he is doing as opposed to maintaining their own biz-nezz --- it is no wonder.