So U Think Wrestling Is FaKe???...

[peeperpimp]

Is Wrestling Really Fake? Watch This Video...

https://youtube.com/watch?v=AgG6Py5AdrM

Then Decide,
(JUST FOR FUN)

[Humpy Leftnut]

Let's not and say we did

[Pleasurepays]

the collective IQ here seems at times to drop almost hourly these days.

[Fizzgig]

I'd rather watch infomercials.

[peeperpimp]

Hey, Lighten up guys I said it was "just for fun", there are some peeps here who do enjoy wrestling shows fake or not and if u guys dont than Thats your perogative & U dont even have to come into the thread...

I dont see any having a problem with any other threads like this one for example http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=736898

So relax

[Humpy Leftnut]

I only like the wrestling at http://www.ultimatesurrender.com, I'm about to rescue this thread.

Our review: http://www.pornsumer.com/sites/ultimate-surrender/

Pics:

[Deej]

lets not forget owen hart

[CDSmith]

Originally Posted by Humpy Leftnut

I only like the wrestling at http://www.ultimatesurrender.com, I'm about to rescue this thread.

Our review: http://www.pornsumer.com/sites/ultimate-surrender/

That's hot.

Let's see some video. :D

[peeperpimp]

Originally Posted by Humpy Leftnut

I only like the wrestling at http://www.ultimatesurrender.com, I'm about to rescue this thread.

Our review: http://www.pornsumer.com/sites/ultimate-surrender/

Pics:

haha, nice pics...

[Humpy Leftnut]

Yeah it's a great site, they actually keep score, have tournaments, the girls have win/loss records, and there's rules and a points system.. You have to forcefully touch a girls breasts, nipples or pussy, and you get the most points for inserting fingers into the other girls pussy.

Can't recommend it enough, from the same people as Fucking Machines

Ultimate Surrender

[peeperpimp]

Originally Posted by Humpy Leftnut

Yeah it's a great site, they actually keep score, have tournaments, the girls have win/loss records, and there's rules and a points system.. You have to forcefully touch a girls breasts, nipples or pussy, and you get the most points for inserting fingers into the other girls pussy.

Can't recommend it enough, from the same people as Fucking Machines

Ultimate Surrender

ahhhaa Thats Great cool Stuff man, gotta check it out

[GatorB]

Professional wrestling is in fact FAKE. There is no question about it. They even admitted it several years ago. The outcomes are predetermined. Thus it is FAKE. Not to mention when guy as supposedly steppping on other guys throat or bashing them in the head you can clearly see they are MISSSING an pretending to do it. Those amatuers that in that vid that are participating in those backyard wrestling events are clearly king of the retards. They still believe what they see on TV is real.

[gideongallery]

Originally Posted by GatorB

Professional wrestling is in fact FAKE. There is no question about it. They even admitted it several years ago. The outcomes are predetermined. Thus it is FAKE. Not to mention when guy as supposedly steppping on other guys throat or bashing them in the head you can clearly see they are MISSSING an pretending to do it. Those amatuers that in that vid that are participating in those backyard wrestling events are clearly king of the retards. They still believe what they see on TV is real.

wrestling is staged not fake there is a difference
yes the outcome is planned
yes the bumps are choreographed so as to prevent serious injury but a lot of "professional wrestlers" have some very serious battle scars from "fake" match.

Many professional wrestlers are certified members of the stuntman union in fact the reason the WWF lost the wrongful death suit brought by the hart family for owen harts death was because his certification for the stunt was done without full dress (no mask and no cape) and run live beyond certification scope (with an obsucated view and with flowing cape which could get caught). Owen died because the WWE did not give him the proper training to do the stunt.

Failing to make the distinction not only insults the wrestlers who do risk personal injury performing those stunts live but also insults ever stunt man who performs in staged action sequences in movies.

[peeperpimp]

Originally Posted by GatorB

Professional wrestling is in fact FAKE. There is no question about it. They even admitted it several years ago. The outcomes are predetermined. Thus it is FAKE. Not to mention when guy as supposedly steppping on other guys throat or bashing them in the head you can clearly see they are MISSSING an pretending to do it. Those amatuers that in that vid that are participating in those backyard wrestling events are clearly king of the retards. They still believe what they see on TV is real.

Of course... I absolutely agree...

This thread wasn't intended to say otherwise its just for fun... I'm sure everyone here is capable of having an intelectual conversation on some level...

But its also a good thing to be a lil versatile (lighten up) and simply sit back relax and enjoy things for what they are, fake or not, just for fun, i.e. enjoy life...

without getting so anally intelectual about everything
(NOT THAT YOU ARE, But with others its a diferrent story)

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by gideongallery

wrestling is staged not fake there is a difference
yes the outcome is planned
yes the bumps are choreographed so as to prevent serious injury but a lot of "professional wrestlers" have some very serious battle scars from "fake" match.

Many professional wrestlers are certified members of the stuntman union in fact the reason the WWF lost the wrongful death suit brought by the hart family for owen harts death was because his certification for the stunt was done without full dress (no mask and no cape) and run live beyond certification scope (with an obsucated view and with flowing cape which could get caught). Owen died because the WWE did not give him the proper training to do the stunt.

Failing to make the distinction not only insults the wrestlers who do risk personal injury performing those stunts live but also insults ever stunt man who performs in staged action sequences in movies.

staged outcome = FAKE. PERIOD. If the NFL had staged outcomes I would say that is fake too. Doesn't mean the guys are faking the hits they put on each other. Still fake though. Stuntmen are all about making the fake look real. If a guy in a movie scene falls off a mountain the stunt man isn't actually falling off a moutain to his death. If a guy in a scene is getting shot 20 times the stunt man is not actually getting shot 20 times.

Once prefessional wrestling starts going by how they do it in college/olympics then it's not fake.

[peeperpimp]

Originally Posted by gideongallery

wrestling is staged not fake there is a difference
yes the outcome is planned
yes the bumps are choreographed so as to prevent serious injury but a lot of "professional wrestlers" have some very serious battle scars from "fake" match.

Many professional wrestlers are certified members of the stuntman union in fact the reason the WWF lost the wrongful death suit brought by the hart family for owen harts death was because his certification for the stunt was done without full dress (no mask and no cape) and run live beyond certification scope (with an obsucated view and with flowing cape which could get caught). Owen died because the WWE did not give him the proper training to do the stunt.

Failing to make the distinction not only insults the wrestlers who do risk personal injury performing those stunts live but also insults ever stunt man who performs in staged action sequences in movies.

Very Good Point, I almost forgot bout Owen its been so long, but that incident in its self proof's its not "fake" even if it is staged

[xcitecash]

Originally Posted by Humpy Leftnut

Let's not and say we did

wow great video !! ??

[ElPolloDiablo]

Hulk Hogan once said he got hurt every single match he did.

He was frustrated that people didn't know.

He said:"They have no idea..."

[peeperpimp]

Originally Posted by Deej

lets not forget owen hart

exactly, Staged and fake are 2 diferrent things

[thricer]

yes... it's fake

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by peeperpimp

Of course... I absolutely agree...

This thread wasn't intended to say otherwise its just for fun... I'm sure everyone here is capable of having an intelectual conversation on some level...

But its also a good thing to be a lil versatile (lighten up) and simply sit back relax and enjoy things for what they are, fake or not, just for fun, i.e. enjoy life...

without getting so anally intelectual about everything
(NOT THAT YOU ARE, But with others its a diferrent story)

Sorry wresting is retarded. It's not even good fakeness. My best friend loves the shit and he knows the outcomes are predetermined. I make sure I'm not hanging out over at his place when wrestling is on. 2 hours of boredom. I just don't get it. About 90% of that 2 hours is either commericals, guys talking about how much they are going to kick the other guys ass and re-hashing what went on the last time wrestling was on. The other 10% is actual "wrestling".

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by peeperpimp

exactly, Staged and fake are 2 diferrent things

Nope. And so when some guy with boots is kicking another guy in the throat he is actually doing that? I don't think so. When some guy picks up a pipe wrench and hits another guy in the head he's actually doing that?

[peeperpimp]

Originally Posted by GatorB

Nope. And so when some guy with boots is kicking another guy in the throat he is actually doing that? I don't think so. When some guy picks up a pipe wrench and hits another guy in the head he's actually doing that?

I disagree "Fake" and "Staged" 2 diferrent words 2 diferrent meanings...

And so when some guy with boots is kicking another guy in the throat he is actually doing that? I don't think so.

He may not be... and that's where the diferrence lies it is Staged so he is going thru the motions... but the motions are not fake... (The guy is actually conducting them) The Stunts are not fake, in the sence of the real meaning of the word, whether the guy is connecting or not is irrelevant...

If U drop a pipe on someone then you dropped a pipe on someone (thats real) whether or not the pipe was a real pipe made of steal or not is irrelevant

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by peeperpimp

I disagree "Fake" and "Staged" 2 diferrent words 2 diferrent meanings...

Where am I wrong?

Adjective:
Fraudulent; having a misleading appearance
- bogus, phony, phoney

Not genuine or real; being an imitation of the genuine article
- false, faux, imitation, simulated

Noun:
Something that is a counterfeit; not what it seems to be
- sham, postiche

Verb:
Tamper, with the purpose of deception
- fudge, manipulate, falsify, cook, wangle, misrepresent, spoof

[drowsy]

nice pix

[peeperpimp]

Originally Posted by GatorB

Where am I wrong?

Adjective:
Fraudulent; having a misleading appearance
- bogus, phony, phoney

Not genuine or real; being an imitation of the genuine article
- false, faux, imitation, simulated

Noun:
Something that is a counterfeit; not what it seems to be
- sham, postiche

Verb:
Tamper, with the purpose of deception
- fudge, manipulate, falsify, cook, wangle, misrepresent, spoof

I think your missing MY point I don't disagree with your definitions...

what I'm saying is that if I lift my leg to kick you or pretend to kick... I'm actually lifting my leg and that part is real regardless of whether it is pretend or not...

If A wrestler flips over the top rope he flipped over the top rope and that is or was real even if it was staged / planned out...

And whether he busted his ass or not is irrelevant....

As we all know, in that industry some practices include hidden blades to draw blood from yourself in an effort to make the audience think your opponent made you bleed sometimes....

and although its an illusion it doesn't make the blood any less real... Tey guy using that hidden blade to make himself bleed is bleeding even if it is / was staged

[Matt 26z]

The blood is actually real. They hide pieces of razor blades on themselves and cut their foreheads open.

The real injuries come from not doing the moves right. Here, Owen Hart isn't holding Steve Austin high enough. They want you to believe on TV that the victims head is smashing into the ring. That's what really happened here. His neck was broken.

[peeperpimp]

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

The blood is actually real. They hide pieces of razor blades on themselves and cut their foreheads open.

The real injuries come from not doing the moves right. Here, Owen Hart isn't holding Steve Austin high enough. They want you to believe on TV that the victims head is smashing into the ring. That's what really happened here. His neck was broken.

Absolutely correct, My point exactly even if its staged the blood and some injuries are real (Not Fake)

[peeperpimp]

That broken neck wasn't fake and neighter was Owen's Death

[g$$$]

depends on the match..i think most of its staged..but alot of impromptu...

[kane]

To me wrestling is just like watching a fight or a battle scene in a movie. It is choreographed, the outcome is predetermined and it is staged to appear as realistic as possible. The guys put themselves at risk and at times they do get seriously hurt.

In the end it is entertainment and it is a production, not a sporting activity.

They used to promote it as being real, but they have since backed off that claim and now really promote it as being entertainment.

[FelixFlow]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=GQn9MMGnvVg



^ damn !!!

[georgeyw]

Originally Posted by peeperpimp

I think your missing MY point I don't disagree with your definitions...

what I'm saying is that if I lift my leg to kick you or pretend to kick... I'm actually lifting my leg and that part is real regardless of whether it is pretend or not...

So by that *logic* nothing is ever fake if you physically have to move any part of your body to achieve the end result.

If I were to say grab one of Van Gogh's paintings, copy it and sell it off, it wouldnt't be fake because I had to move my arm to create the painting.

[sicone]

There is a reason they call it sports entertainment

[sicone]

Originally Posted by FelixFlow

https://youtube.com/watch?v=GQn9MMGnvVg



^ damn !!!

That's not the Owen Hart fall

[Iron Fist]

The HART breaker! hahaha... yes it's fake.... guys acting like drama queens.

[TimBlaze]

pre-determined real physical pain

[Ravage]

As the great Brett "Hitman" Hart said, "If it looks like it hurt, you damn well better believe it hurt!"

[Violetta]

auch... that is nasty

[WebTitan]

Originally Posted by gideongallery

wrestling is staged not fake there is a difference
yes the outcome is planned
yes the bumps are choreographed so as to prevent serious injury but a lot of "professional wrestlers" have some very serious battle scars from "fake" match.

Many professional wrestlers are certified members of the stuntman union in fact the reason the WWF lost the wrongful death suit brought by the hart family for owen harts death was because his certification for the stunt was done without full dress (no mask and no cape) and run live beyond certification scope (with an obsucated view and with flowing cape which could get caught). Owen died because the WWE did not give him the proper training to do the stunt.

Failing to make the distinction not only insults the wrestlers who do risk personal injury performing those stunts live but also insults ever stunt man who performs in staged action sequences in movies.

very well put

[tranza]

100% fake....

[BucksMania]

yeah it is

[peeperpimp]

Originally Posted by georgeyw

So by that *logic* nothing is ever fake if you physically have to move any part of your body to achieve the end result.

If I were to say grab one of Van Gogh's paintings, copy it and sell it off, it wouldnt't be fake because I had to move my arm to create the painting.

No It wouldn't be fake, your painting would be very much real, But It Would Be A forgery

[bushwacker]

Originally Posted by peeperpimp

No It wouldn't be fake, your painting would be very much real, But It Would Be A forgery

forgery=fake

[peeperpimp]

Originally Posted by kane

To me wrestling is just like watching a fight or a battle scene in a movie. It is choreographed, the outcome is predetermined and it is staged to appear as realistic as possible. The guys put themselves at risk and at times they do get seriously hurt.

In the end it is entertainment and it is a production, not a sporting activity.

They used to promote it as being real, but they have since backed off that claim and now really promote it as being entertainment.

No one here said it was a sporting activity, But I do agree with your statement

[alby_persignup]

it is scripted and fake but still entertaining!

I was at a WWE show in London, Ontario a few years back. Apparently they were filming it to air on TV. There was one part where some new guy came out and did a roundhouse kick to about 3 people which was supposed to send them flying.

He screwed up so bad that he missed their heads by about 3 or 4 feet. They left the ring in disgust and actually had to re-enter the ring and do the whole scene over again because the original take was not good enough to air on TV.

Pretty funny stuff. The crowd was booing pretty hard. I bet that ruined the illusion for a lot of kids that night. Of rourse watching it on TV after that it looked perfect and there was never any indication of them having to retape the scene.

[peeperpimp]

Originally Posted by FelixFlow

https://youtube.com/watch?v=GQn9MMGnvVg



^ damn !!!

DAMN !!!

[CDSmith]

I used to drive the wrestlers to the arena many years ago, having worked for the hotel they used to stay at when they were in town. Hulk Hogan, Baron Von Rashke, Ken Patera, Jesse Ventura, Adrian Adonis, Nick Bockwinkel, Rock & Roll Buck Zumhoff, etc.... all the old schoolers.

Plenty of times I would arrive a few minutes early to pick them up and find several of them in the ring on the day before the matches, rehearsing their moves.

However, staged and acted out as it may be, they still take a pounding nonetheless. To dismiss wrestling as "fake" and leave it at that is a mistake. If you guys had any cluse as to the amount of pain medications these guys take after their matches you'd shit yourselves, every one of you.

[peeperpimp]

Originally Posted by sicone

That's not the Owen Hart fall

Yes It Is, just not the one that took him out, The one that took him out was where he was being lowered and the cable snapped so he fell 50 feet from the top and hit his head on a turnbuckle....

On Another note no one can say that was fake and didn't Hurt