2257 inspections in Israel ?! is this for real ? - GoFuckYourself.com

webjoker · 05-27-2007, 12:55 PM

http://www.sexy-gays.co.uk

this guy had a gay tgp there, I traded traffic with him.
is this a really bad joke or what ?

sorry if this was posted before, I googled a bit for this and found nothing.

jact · 05-27-2007, 12:59 PM

The FBI/DOJ are not doing inspections outside of the US, sounds like the Israeli authorities nabbed him and he just decided to call it 2257.

BTW, there's no preparing period, people are so grossly misinformed.

Zester · 05-28-2007, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by webjoker

http://www.sexy-gays.co.uk

this guy had a gay tgp there, I traded traffic with him.
is this a really bad joke or what ?

sorry if this was posted before, I googled a bit for this and found nothing.

I find it hard to believe this is a 2257 issue but because I am an Israeli resident myself I would like to know what reasons made this happen -
do you happen to have more info on this ?

CWeb · 05-28-2007, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by webjoker

http://www.sexy-gays.co.uk

this guy had a gay tgp there, I traded traffic with him.
is this a really bad joke or what ?

sorry if this was posted before, I googled a bit for this and found nothing.

Prob not the full story webjoker...

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I am now facing trial here in Israel and it looks like I'm headed to jail

Any 'trial' is not about US domestic law..

DaddyHalbucks · 05-28-2007, 01:17 AM

Why is this such a surprise?

If you are doing business in the US, you are subject to US law.

CWeb · 05-28-2007, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

If you are doing business in the US, you are subject to US law.

Who is doing business in the US??

You got a crystal ball and have any clue about whether this Israeli guy has any business interests in the US??? Nope - as usual.

He may have hosting - who knows? In that case it's most likely US law applies - tho that has nothing to do with any "trial" he refers to.

BTW... How is your expert - "Fred the Lawyer"??

scottybuzz · 05-28-2007, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

Why is this such a surprise?

If you are doing business in the US, you are subject to US law.

LOL

so if you have french hosting and you are in the US. and you break a french obscene law, the french are going to come after you?

Your retarded daddyhalbucks. Stick to spamming refcodes you idiot.

Dirty Dane · 05-28-2007, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by jact

The FBI/DOJ are not doing inspections outside of the US, sounds like the Israeli authorities nabbed him and he just decided to call it 2257.

BTW, there's no preparing period, people are so grossly misinformed.

If authorities accuse someone, they should have evidences, and everyone should have the right to defend themself if they are accused. I think this guy is confused and mixed up US 2257 with his own laws.

directfiesta · 05-28-2007, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

Why is this such a surprise?

If you are doing business in the US, you are subject to US law.

So true .....

And you are subject to France laws, Italy, Germany, Canada and so on ....

Blum · 05-28-2007, 07:52 AM

I don't think there are enough details on his site for us to know what's really happening, but it is interesting. And obviously if he was good to deal with it's a shame he's gone down. Though I don't condone lawbreaking it is the decent people we deal with that makes this a good industry to work in.

Naja-ram · 05-28-2007, 08:53 AM

I found this:
http://www.sexy-gays.co.uk/main.php
my guess is a linked to a "boy" toplist.

anyway, he is ferry ass, I bet nobody in Israel likes those either.

Violetta · 05-28-2007, 08:58 AM

it is not legal with cp anywhere, so it must have been something like that he was hunted down for. 2257 is an american law...

Zester · 05-28-2007, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

Why is this such a surprise?

If you are doing business in the US, you are subject to US law.

what ?! and if I'm doing business (god forbid) with Iraqian webmaster - I'm subjected to his laws ?!

Naja-ram · 05-28-2007, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Zester

what ?! and if I'm doing business (god forbid) with Iraqian webmaster - I'm subjected to his laws ?!

if you step foot in Iraq you can bet your ass you'll be punished

seeric · 05-28-2007, 02:45 PM

100% bullshit!!!!!

seeric · 05-28-2007, 02:49 PM

bottom line. we went through an inspection by the fbi a few weeks ago. they dont tell you to get ready, they show up. if they find shit wrong they give you one week to procure the docs they need. we were 10000000000% compliant so no issues. the fbi is not in israel doing inspections. lol.

Shankz · 05-28-2007, 03:01 PM

Yeah definately not getting the full story on this one.

Pleasurepays · 05-28-2007, 03:07 PM

is the question really... "did the FBI, in full cooperation with Isreali authorities, fly to Isreal to simply to inspect someones records and enforce a US law that only applies to US webmasters when they have only done it a few times in the US"?

i often tell myself that some of you people are hopeless drug addicts, severaly injured by blunt trauma to the head, or suffering from down syndrome. it helps to rationalize the idiocy that gets posted on here daily.

tranza · 05-28-2007, 03:10 PM

They just don't have jurisdiction to do anything outside the US.

Chill out.

_Richard_ · 05-28-2007, 03:23 PM

probably a matter of communication. if he had underage content etc, then it would have been a 2257 type of raid

DamageX · 05-28-2007, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

Why is this such a surprise?

If you are doing business in the US, you are subject to US law.

Were you born an idiot or did you study to become one just so you could entertain GFY?

directfiesta · 05-28-2007, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DamageX

Were you born an idiot or did you study to become one just so you could entertain GFY?

seeric · 05-28-2007, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

is the question really... "did the FBI, in full cooperation with Isreali authorities, fly to Isreal to simply to inspect someones records and enforce a US law that only applies to US webmasters when they have only done it a few times in the US"?

i often tell myself that some of you people are hopeless drug addicts, severaly injured by blunt trauma to the head, or suffering from down syndrome. it helps to rationalize the idiocy that gets posted on here daily.

after talking with the agents that came to our spalce to inspect, there is no way in hell the gov is investing money in sending agents out of the country to do random inspections. if something was under investigation anyhow, then yes if they were going to shut a site down and serve warrants they would have to have the local authorities issue warrants and such. theres lots to it. so random inspection, hell no.

theres much more that i just don't have time to type at the moment, but that i can assure you.

GatorB · 05-28-2007, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by scottybuzz

LOL

so if you have french hosting and you are in the US. and you break a french obscene law, the french are going to come after you?

Your retarded daddyhalbucks. Stick to spamming refcodes you idiot.

Listen according to the US DOJ they feel that if your site can be seen by peole in the US youare supposed to abide by US law. So yes if your sites can be seen in the US regardless of where you're hosted or what country you live in they expect you to comply with 2257. This isn't MY opinion this is the opinion of the US government. Now can they do anything to you if you don't comply? Doubtful. Unless you come into the US. If you're using US hosting they can make the hosting company shut your sites down, but if your completely non-US then no I wouldn't worry about compliance.

Now I'll add on caveat. US the has work with other countries to bust peole dealing in CP. Now I suppose if you are not complying with 2257 you can be considered to be a suspect in dealing in CP and they could use that angle to get you busted. Depends on your home country. I doubt some country like Holland or Denmark would help the US in comething like that, but conservative countries might.

Vlad · 05-28-2007, 04:29 PM

2257 in israel ?

you guys are idiots or what...

LMAO.......

GatorB · 05-28-2007, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Vlad

2257 in israel ?

you guys are idiots or what...

LMAO.......

Who is an idiot? Someone just posted a link. So who are these "guys" to whom you are referring to? Now fuck off.

Naja-ram · 05-29-2007, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Who is an idiot? Someone just posted a link. So who are these "guys" to whom you are referring to? Now fuck off.

what he said

urbanpimp · 05-29-2007, 08:57 AM

Who cares?????

Pleasurepays · 05-29-2007, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Who is an idiot? Someone just posted a link. So who are these "guys" to whom you are referring to? Now fuck off.

is this your pic?

just a punk · 05-29-2007, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Listen according to the US DOJ they feel that if your site can be seen by peole in the US youare supposed to abide by US law.

Really? So what about all those Dutch bestiality and scat sites? Does it mean that US DOJ can't reach the mentioned sites from the USA? So why no one is in jail then? I'll tell you: because all the Dutch sites are under the jurisdiction of Holland and no other country (including the USA) can apply their own local laws to the independent land.

scottybuzz · 05-29-2007, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Listen according to the US DOJ they feel that if your site can be seen by peole in the US youare supposed to abide by US law. So yes if your sites can be seen in the US regardless of where you're hosted or what country you live in they expect you to comply with 2257. This isn't MY opinion this is the opinion of the US government. Now can they do anything to you if you don't comply? Doubtful. Unless you come into the US. If you're using US hosting they can make the hosting company shut your sites down, but if your completely non-US then no I wouldn't worry about compliance.

Now I'll add on caveat. US the has work with other countries to bust peole dealing in CP. Now I suppose if you are not complying with 2257 you can be considered to be a suspect in dealing in CP and they could use that angle to get you busted. Depends on your home country. I doubt some country like Holland or Denmark would help the US in comething like that, but conservative countries might.

Ok for example in england we have the obscene pornography law where if you market "strong" pornographic materials( you know those german sites) then you get in trouble. Now your telling me that if a german markets those sites then the english police are going to liase with the german police and make an arrest? sorry I dont see it happening. Even if his site is in english etc. I do however see your point and seeing as no example of this to do with 2257 has yet happend.
One can not argue conclusivley either way. I do not for one second believe however that this isreali had a 2257 problem.

05-27-2007, 12:55 PM	#1
webjoker Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 367	2257 inspections in Israel ?! is this for real ? http://www.sexy-gays.co.uk this guy had a gay tgp there, I traded traffic with him. is this a really bad joke or what ? sorry if this was posted before, I googled a bit for this and found nothing. __________________ hehe

05-27-2007, 12:59 PM	#2
jact Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oakville, Canada Posts: 9,134	The FBI/DOJ are not doing inspections outside of the US, sounds like the Israeli authorities nabbed him and he just decided to call it 2257. BTW, there's no preparing period, people are so grossly misinformed. __________________ Free agent

05-28-2007, 01:17 AM	#5
DaddyHalbucks A freakin' legend! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada USA Posts: 18,975	Why is this such a surprise? If you are doing business in the US, you are subject to US law. __________________ Boner Money

05-28-2007, 07:52 AM	#10
Blum Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 31	I don't think there are enough details on his site for us to know what's really happening, but it is interesting. And obviously if he was good to deal with it's a shame he's gone down. Though I don't condone lawbreaking it is the decent people we deal with that makes this a good industry to work in. __________________

05-28-2007, 08:53 AM	#11
Naja-ram Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Iran Posts: 639	I found this: http://www.sexy-gays.co.uk/main.php my guess is a linked to a "boy" toplist. anyway, he is ferry ass, I bet nobody in Israel likes those either. __________________ http://www.muslimmatrimonial.com/

05-28-2007, 08:58 AM	#12
Violetta Affiliate Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 28,735	it is not legal with cp anywhere, so it must have been something like that he was hunted down for. 2257 is an american law... __________________ M&A Queen

05-28-2007, 02:45 PM	#15
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	100% bullshit!!!!!

05-28-2007, 02:49 PM	#16
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	bottom line. we went through an inspection by the fbi a few weeks ago. they dont tell you to get ready, they show up. if they find shit wrong they give you one week to procure the docs they need. we were 10000000000% compliant so no issues. the fbi is not in israel doing inspections. lol.

05-28-2007, 03:01 PM	#17
Shankz Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 275	Yeah definately not getting the full story on this one.

05-28-2007, 03:07 PM	#18
Pleasurepays BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I live in a pile of boogers Posts: 11,913	is the question really... "did the FBI, in full cooperation with Isreali authorities, fly to Isreal to simply to inspect someones records and enforce a US law that only applies to US webmasters when they have only done it a few times in the US"? i often tell myself that some of you people are hopeless drug addicts, severaly injured by blunt trauma to the head, or suffering from down syndrome. it helps to rationalize the idiocy that gets posted on here daily.

05-28-2007, 03:10 PM	#19
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	They just don't have jurisdiction to do anything outside the US. Chill out. __________________ I'm just a newbie.

05-28-2007, 03:23 PM	#20
_Richard_ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Earth Posts: 30,989	probably a matter of communication. if he had underage content etc, then it would have been a 2257 type of raid

05-28-2007, 04:29 PM	#25
Vlad Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: gone Posts: 2,864	2257 in israel ? you guys are idiots or what... LMAO.......

05-29-2007, 08:57 AM	#28
urbanpimp Confirmed User Join Date: May 2007 Location: xxx Posts: 524	Who cares?????