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d-null · 05-30-2007, 12:52 AM

I know that my site is indexed by google (if I google site:mysite.com "keyword e xactly") it lists my page as a result.

so then I do a google on "keyword e xactly" and it comes up with 8 pages of results, but my site is not one of them

why is that? google knows of my site and that my site has that keyword, yet it shows only other sites with that keyword, and completely ignores mine

is there a part of google's algorithm to completely omit new sites from overall listings for established keywords?

SmokeyTheBear · 05-30-2007, 12:59 AM

why would you think you would be in the top 100 for your keyword just by having the domain ?

SmokeyTheBear · 05-30-2007, 01:00 AM

just to be clear , you own www.green-widgets.com for example and when you search "green widgets" your site doesnt show up right ?

SmokeyTheBear · 05-30-2007, 01:03 AM

its always hard to predict what google does as nobody knows we just make assumptions based on what we have seen..

i dont think sandboxing exists as we think of it , its more in reverse where established sites and established keywords hold alot of weight so it takes awhile for new sites to catch up

Aussie Rebel · 05-30-2007, 01:10 AM

I bought a new domain about 4 or 5 days ago and it's listed and I can find it when I type in different keywords that I targeted

D · 05-30-2007, 01:10 AM

take a class in linear algebra, and read up on dominant eigenvalues, and how they apply to google's pagerank.

d-null · 05-30-2007, 01:30 AM

thanks for the replies

I think what actually is happening is that google is finding way too many results, and is therefore only displaying a small fraction of those results, so my page has not ranked high enough to crack the top I guess

even though I get to the end of the pages displayed, there must be many more 'hits' that aren't even in the number of page results that are available

Turboface · 05-30-2007, 01:34 AM

I've had Google anomilies happen to me as well, as I am sure quite a few have had. One of my sites took over year to get assigned a pagerank, yet I have had others get one in a few weeks time.

Google is a strange animal, one that we all want to tame.

d-null · 05-30-2007, 03:10 AM

That reminds me of a strange occurence last year, I was working on a friends website for her, it was an established one that had been around for a few years, on archive and all.... anyways, I wanted to work on her site with some major changes without bringing her site down, so I copied all of the files to another host I had, and was working on it for a few days.... I did a google search on her name for some reason, and I was shocked to find that the new stuff I was working on had jumped to first on her google ranking, bumping the 'real' site down

I kind of paniced, because that was not at all what I expected or desirable, I remember going through some deleting stuff and submitting to google, and it was back to normal within a week.

strange how totally unintentional things sometimes get the kinds of results we can't achieve when we want them

everblazin · 05-30-2007, 05:00 AM

I heard pagerank is updated live, but the only thing updated a couple of times per year is the pagerank displayed in toolbars and on sites and such. But in google's systems your pagerank is live apparently. Fuck knows.

viencarl · 05-30-2007, 05:23 AM

and what about linear algebra come up with Googgles own search engine?

bonkerz2007 · 05-30-2007, 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jetjet

I know that my site is indexed by google (if I google site:mysite.com "keyword e xactly") it lists my page as a result.

so then I do a google on "keyword e xactly" and it comes up with 8 pages of results, but my site is not one of them

why is that? google knows of my site and that my site has that keyword, yet it shows only other sites with that keyword, and completely ignores mine

is there a part of google's algorithm to completely omit new sites from overall listings for established keywords?

you may be part of google's supplemental results

TheDoc · 05-30-2007, 06:16 AM

New sites hit a sandbox, every new site. This isn't a strong sandbox so links to your site from any trusted ranked source removes it, proper site structure and layout, not opening with to many pages, every page being unique in title/desc and body, and the overall trust of your host, the ip block or maybe the domain name isn't really new.

Hew sites that do start with some type of decent ranking will settle down. Often the in-bound strength of the links cause this.

New sites don't get power words very often, they get related keyword phrases and a few lower level words that are decent.

New sites can be a pain, lots of things can factor into why you don't list, rank, ect..

05-30-2007, 12:52 AM	#1
d-null . . . Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 13,724	google knows my site yet ignores it I know that my site is indexed by google (if I google site:mysite.com "keyword e xactly") it lists my page as a result. so then I do a google on "keyword e xactly" and it comes up with 8 pages of results, but my site is not one of them why is that? google knows of my site and that my site has that keyword, yet it shows only other sites with that keyword, and completely ignores mine is there a part of google's algorithm to completely omit new sites from overall listings for established keywords?

05-30-2007, 12:59 AM	#2
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	why would you think you would be in the top 100 for your keyword just by having the domain ? __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

05-30-2007, 01:00 AM	#3
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	just to be clear , you own www.green-widgets.com for example and when you search "green widgets" your site doesnt show up right ? __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

05-30-2007, 01:03 AM	#4
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	its always hard to predict what google does as nobody knows we just make assumptions based on what we have seen.. i dont think sandboxing exists as we think of it , its more in reverse where established sites and established keywords hold alot of weight so it takes awhile for new sites to catch up __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

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D Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Valley Posts: 7,412	take a class in linear algebra, and read up on dominant eigenvalues, and how they apply to google's pagerank. __________________ -D. ICQ: 202-96-31

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Aussie Rebel Blow Me U Geeks Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Maximum Security Posts: 5,108	I bought a new domain about 4 or 5 days ago and it's listed and I can find it when I type in different keywords that I targeted

05-30-2007, 01:30 AM	#7
d-null . . . Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 13,724	thanks for the replies I think what actually is happening is that google is finding way too many results, and is therefore only displaying a small fraction of those results, so my page has not ranked high enough to crack the top I guess even though I get to the end of the pages displayed, there must be many more 'hits' that aren't even in the number of page results that are available

05-30-2007, 01:34 AM	#8
Turboface Back in Black Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,976	I've had Google anomilies happen to me as well, as I am sure quite a few have had. One of my sites took over year to get assigned a pagerank, yet I have had others get one in a few weeks time. Google is a strange animal, one that we all want to tame. __________________ Search Engine Optimization Services for Adult Sites

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d-null . . . Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 13,724	That reminds me of a strange occurence last year, I was working on a friends website for her, it was an established one that had been around for a few years, on archive and all.... anyways, I wanted to work on her site with some major changes without bringing her site down, so I copied all of the files to another host I had, and was working on it for a few days.... I did a google search on her name for some reason, and I was shocked to find that the new stuff I was working on had jumped to first on her google ranking, bumping the 'real' site down I kind of paniced, because that was not at all what I expected or desirable, I remember going through some deleting stuff and submitting to google, and it was back to normal within a week. strange how totally unintentional things sometimes get the kinds of results we can't achieve when we want them

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everblazin Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Fucking your mother Posts: 259	I heard pagerank is updated live, but the only thing updated a couple of times per year is the pagerank displayed in toolbars and on sites and such. But in google's systems your pagerank is live apparently. Fuck knows. __________________ If you are not promoting Adult Friend Finder as your number 1 dating program you are throwing away potential cash 432-609-067

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TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	New sites hit a sandbox, every new site. This isn't a strong sandbox so links to your site from any trusted ranked source removes it, proper site structure and layout, not opening with to many pages, every page being unique in title/desc and body, and the overall trust of your host, the ip block or maybe the domain name isn't really new. Hew sites that do start with some type of decent ranking will settle down. Often the in-bound strength of the links cause this. New sites don't get power words very often, they get related keyword phrases and a few lower level words that are decent. New sites can be a pain, lots of things can factor into why you don't list, rank, ect.. __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation