Established pornography business is in decline ? and the Internet is responsible - GoFuckYourself.com

Jace · 06-03-2007, 04:36 AM

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/02/te...ll&oref=slogin

some excerpts:

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The online availability of free or low-cost photos and videos has begun to take a fierce toll on sales of X-rated DVDs. Inexpensive digital technology has paved the way for aspiring amateur pornographers, who are flooding the market, while everyone in the industry is giving away more material to lure paying customers.

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?People are making movies in their houses and dragging and dropping them? onto free Web sites, said Harvey Kaplan, a former maker of pornographic movies and now chief executive of GoGoBill.com, which processes payments for pornographic Web sites. ?It?s killing the marketplace.?

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The spread of high-speed Internet access promised even further growth. Instead, faster connections have simply allowed people to download free movies more quickly, and allowed amateur moviemakers to upload their creations easily.

Oracle Porn · 06-03-2007, 04:41 AM

who the fuck is gogobill?

Jace · 06-03-2007, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Oracle Porn

who the fuck is gogobill?

mobile processor

prezzz · 06-03-2007, 04:43 AM

"free", "low-cost", "inexpensive", "giving away" - sounds like the only way to go is to offer something exclusive, innovative and... harder to rip and post on torrent sites, so paying users would actually have a reason to join and stay.

Brujah · 06-03-2007, 04:48 AM

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Boobzooka · 06-03-2007, 05:13 AM

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They are banking that viewers will be discerning when it comes to sex.
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?We use different locations, rooms and couches.?
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He has begun adding a sleeve around his box covers that includes a foil logo and metallic sheen to bring out the images
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I LOL'd. Yeah, tin foil and a wide variety of couches is what gets 'em excited.

KimJI · 06-03-2007, 05:21 AM

if the only thing you have to set you apart from other sites are the amount of videos and the price of the membership, you will end up failing. You have to provide something the surfer cant get anywhere else (or as easy at least)

Look at what Brazzer and Bangbros do - DONT copy it, but let it inspire you to think differently

RawAlex · 06-03-2007, 07:26 AM

The DVD porn business is it's own worst enemy. We have gone from major companies have one to two releases a month to having one to two releases per day. The sheer volume of content they are producing and attempting to sell means that sales per title drop all the time. It use to be that a good porn movie would sell tens of thousands of copies. Now that is a rare exception for a truly spectacular seller, the rest are around 1 thousand copies per title (which means income is very low).

The meat grinder approach, the huge volume, doesn't do the industry any favors, and online porn is part of that grinder.

Gary_TLX · 06-03-2007, 11:52 AM

Everything in life, including porn has it's ups and downs. DVD sales are down, but I'm sure that many other ways to market porn are on the rise. As with pretty much every other industry the market is constantly changing. I got into this business thinking that guys will always need porn in one form or an other and this means that someone has to produce it. :D

Jace · 06-03-2007, 11:23 PM

bump to the top

Xenophage · 06-03-2007, 11:25 PM

Yes things change and biz models change.... ya have to change to survive.

Daruma · 06-03-2007, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars

Yes things change and biz models change.... ya have to change to survive.

and some people support shit that destroys the base of the business

ztik · 06-03-2007, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Daruma

and some people support shit that destroys the base of the business

People used to say that about TGP's..

p1mpdogg · 06-03-2007, 11:28 PM

one of the only biz related threads this board has ever seen. congrats GFY, you made it!

MissMina · 06-04-2007, 12:33 AM

Bump for a good thread...

p1mpdogg · 06-04-2007, 12:42 AM

sad sad sad

DWB · 06-04-2007, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars

...ya have to change to survive.

You mean like how you went from white trash to n i g g e r?

chupacabra · 06-04-2007, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

You mean like how you went from white trash to n i g g e r?

quoted for great truth...

Lars, i hope your belly rots and splits you fucking turd fondler..

Pornwolf · 06-04-2007, 01:56 AM

Daaaamn chupa.

On that note...

I read the article earlier this morning. If you think it's only the death fo the DVD companies that's coming think again. Net porn is on the chopping block as well.

he-fox · 06-04-2007, 02:07 AM

Article based on the opinions of AVN, RedLightDistrict, GoGoBill, NectarEntertainment, PornoTube and Manny Ulele.

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Grapesoda · 06-04-2007, 04:54 AM

The more traditional pornographic film companies are not giving up, of course. They say they have an answer to the new competition: quality.

Barefootsies · 06-04-2007, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

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Barefootsies · 06-04-2007, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Wanton

The more traditional pornographic film companies are not giving up, of course. They say they have an answer to the new competition: quality.

True dat

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prezzz Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 959	"free", "low-cost", "inexpensive", "giving away" - sounds like the only way to go is to offer something exclusive, innovative and... harder to rip and post on torrent sites, so paying users would actually have a reason to join and stay.

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KimJI Confirmed User Join Date: May 2007 Location: So fucking gone Posts: 1,839	if the only thing you have to set you apart from other sites are the amount of videos and the price of the membership, you will end up failing. You have to provide something the surfer cant get anywhere else (or as easy at least) Look at what Brazzer and Bangbros do - DONT copy it, but let it inspire you to think differently

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RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	The DVD porn business is it's own worst enemy. We have gone from major companies have one to two releases a month to having one to two releases per day. The sheer volume of content they are producing and attempting to sell means that sales per title drop all the time. It use to be that a good porn movie would sell tens of thousands of copies. Now that is a rare exception for a truly spectacular seller, the rest are around 1 thousand copies per title (which means income is very low). The meat grinder approach, the huge volume, doesn't do the industry any favors, and online porn is part of that grinder.

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Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	bump to the top

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Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	Daaaamn chupa. On that note... I read the article earlier this morning. If you think it's only the death fo the DVD companies that's coming think again. Net porn is on the chopping block as well. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches. Last edited by Pornwolf; 06-04-2007 at 01:57 AM..

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he-fox Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Playa del Carmen, Mexico Posts: 2,884	Article based on the opinions of AVN, RedLightDistrict, GoGoBill, NectarEntertainment, PornoTube and Manny Ulele. ....

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Grapesoda So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Montana Posts: 46,238	The more traditional pornographic film companies are not giving up, of course. They say they have an answer to the new competition: quality.