SmokeyTheBear

I am a realitycash affiliate . Can i advertise on torrent sites ?

If not why are you letting gfy sponsors advertise on torrent sites ?

If you arent can you please give us a heads up as to what is being done to tackle the problem or is it a free-for-all ?

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movie profits and adultfriend finder

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tony286

This should be interesting.Playboy and Lens can really come out as a leader of the industry on this one.

The Duck

Lets see where this goes

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i predict drama

RP Fade

here we go again...

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Chef86

This will turn out to be pretty good

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mikeyddddd

Unless the programs are getting type-in signups from the content thieves, it only makes sense to cut off the thieves' income source and put them out of business.

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StuartD

Yes, because Playboy and Lens aren't already considered leaders of the industry.

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will76

I predict no reply.

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aico

I don't think it's his job to police what other do or don't do.

tony286

Being a big company doesnt make you a leader taking a stand makes you a leader.

Spunky

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Ivan Fuckalot

did I miss anything?

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The Walrus

Don't be a clown. Playboy made what we do "not so" taboo. If you are unaware of that, or blind to it, it really doesn't matter. Open your eyes.

Christ almighty this place is full of asshats.

Brad Mitchell

Not to be a prick but why should Lensman care what the policies are of companies buying banner spots on GFY?

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stickyfingerz

Torrents are a huge resource to get your trailers and promo material out there without costing you anything in bandwidth costs. Some people understand that. Some of the now industry giants used p2p to get popular. To name a couple that became well known due to p2p. Ideepthroat.com The just barely have an affiliate program. Most of their notoriety came from the clips they released on p2p. Another is Bang bros. BangBus became so huge because of the free clips they let go out. Its a huge source of traffic that will convert using the right methods. I think most people know a free sample sometimes gets you a lifelong customer.

Clean_Franck

huh? but you type in anything from bangbros in the torrentz and you dont get clips or teaser videos you get the whole thing.

Sure it may be a good use to advertise as an affiliate, but there are those who think the internet should be free and uploading full movies everyday.

The Walrus

Well, mainly (I think) because these guys are buying ads on sites that single handedly rip the money right out of the parent comany's pockets (not to mention ours as well) by offering very expensively shot photography, video/television production & publishing expenses for free to anyone with an internet connection.

Come on, torrents are not a big secret or anything. GFY I am sure is only a portion of the amount (maybe even a small portion) of what Playboy, Inc. makes yearly.

The Walrus

This is an exremely valid point, but come on and you can not even argue... entire site rips are ok? I am not talking promo clips with even fucking spyware imbedded. I'm not talking watermarked 2 minute clips with your URL on it.

Take a look (which I am sure you have). The newest issues of Playboy magazine in pretty much every language possible are available in PDF format. Entire DVDs, site rips, photo sets, etc.

Torrents do not exist because people do not download them, especially with an extremely high profile name such as Playboy's!

rapmaster

I wonder what the state of piracy will be in 10 years - hopefully theres a big crackdown

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stickyfingerz

Boy someone should start a torrent site that has all legal material to download including program submitted material that is given out as samples.

Im not saying the bad stuff is ok, but it will exist no matter what. Whether it is on newsgroups, or p2p, or warez, or torrents. People need to think out of the box and take advantage of what can be done. Its like trying to stop a huge wave coming in with a dixie cup. Instead of trying to stop it... ride the wave.

will76

Who Sticky has been in the adult industry a little over a year and he already figured out how BangBros became so popular.

It was "free samples" on sites like pirate bay. yeah thats it.

It had nothing to do with the fact that they were one of the first to come up with reality based sites and offered something fresh to the adult market that had never been done before. Sites like BangBus became popular because of the style of the site, it had nothing to do with p2p and torrent sites.

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Bama

This is getting to the point that it's becoming incredibly humorous.

Here, you have a guy who creates hacks to get around IE & Firefox settings so that they'll display unwanted consoles - consoles that a lot of the torrent & spyware sites make use of to either distribute their programs or supplement their website revenue yelling about someone else's business practices.

This will almost certainly be followed up by a public "he's an asshole for inventing spyware" post (referring to me for the folks who arrived here late) from Mr. Pheer - a guy who proudly displayed his AFF earnings of over 600K this year without once stopping to ponder how it is AFF can afford to pay him 600K (shhh, no one tell him so he'll continue to believe his [and his alone] traffic is so golden AFF doesn't need any supplemental revenue streams from his traffic).....

I'm not condoning or supporting any of company or their business practices. I'm just saying (and this is where I find the humor) - if you folks want a public lynching, maybe it'd be a better idea to have someone else carry the torch and rope!


Read the fucking TOS. Sheesh, how hard can that be - the answer is there?

Lensman "lets" other companies advertise elsewhere?

Is this meeting weekly or monthly where anyone who advertises on GFY also has to get Lensman's blessing and approval of where else they are allowed to buy advertising on the entire internet.

Does this carry over into the outside world - meaning that if I buy a burger at Wendy's I can't also buy a burger at McDonalds too? What, pray tell, do I tell the children when I can't buy them a Happy Meal on Friday? No WONDER Lens has so few moments to post here - he's busy making business decisions for everyone else too!

Holy Hell Lensman! I told you to tell Hef to take a flying leap - I told you to tell stock holders to stick it up their asses - you have no time for those meetings! You're too busy giving "heads-ups" to Smokey!

You tell Hef the next time he wants to know anything - meetings be damned - he's to clear your schedule through GFY!

What I don't get is - Why is it so hard? If someone does something you don't approve of - stop promoting them! Any other question should be pretty much limited to "Where's my check".

will76

you need to listen and think and use your brain.

samples are not the problem. No one cares if samples are given out of their videos with a watermark on it. But torrent sites do not consist of samples only. The majority of clips there are full clips.

Go start a torrent site with samples only and see how popular it gets no one will come back to your site, they don't want to see samples they want to see full site rips.


So what is your answer is to find a way to ride this wave ? What are your suggestions? to provide samples on torrent sites ? to start your own torrent site with samples ??

Here let me hold your hand and walk you through it. Do a search for bangbus on a torrent site. Oh look it is sticky's bangbus sample clip 30 seconds long, oh look the next 100 results are more bangbus clips 30 MINUTES long.... hmmm what should I do. I am on a torrent site so chances are I am looking for something for free. Do i watch the 30 second sample and signup to that site and pay to watch the rest of the videos, or do i download the next 100, 30 minute videos and watch them for free... hmm tough decission

So what is your "out the box " thinking Sticky? please share before i put your dumb ass back on ignore.

Please educate us, you have learned so much in your 1 year in adult. Please tell us these out the box ideas. Considering torrents have been around for a while and NO ONE has thought of an out the box idea to deal with them, i can't wait to hear what your solution is.

Or do you think it is just cool to make it sound like we are all stupid, you have the answers but we need to figure it out for ourselves. you dumb ass.

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stickyfingerz

You're a moron. Bangbros without question grew huge because of p2p. They put a good product out and let people have free samples. It wasnt by accident. Ideepthroat.com was the same way. Do you still support Ibill willy boy? Gotta love professional whiners. That you are great at.

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DWB

You don't understand how they work then.

You can get the ENTIRE MOVIE... on these sites. Entire DVDs from both the porn and mainstream video industry.

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baddog

Not only that, but isn't there a difference between what policies you allow for your affiliates and telling sponsors what they can or can not do?

Would CBS or NBC attempt to tell Coca Cola or Chevrolet what they can or can not do?

DWB

You can thank Hustler for that.

»Rob Content«

As I've said before Sticky reminds me a lot of the ever so popular AlienQ, who we all know was also always right.

They even kind of look the same.

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The Walrus

I think what sticky is getting at (and I find it somewhat sad to see occuring with more and more people around here) is that the general consensus is the old, "If you can't beat em, join em" syndrome. Suck whatever traffic you can from them while they steal your product, but here is the problem...

Torrent sites convert because if the sheer volume of traffic for the most part (that and the fact that most people will leave a page open and eat cookies, take a piss, come back, check download progress, rinse & repeat or continually surf the site looking for more freebies while more ads are slammed into their faces).

Torrent based sites do not STEAL AFF/DATINGGOLD/whatever site's content. So they advertise there out of sheer volume. Obviusly they can convert the traffic and so can't their affiliates otherwise (DUH) nobody would spend the advertising dollars.

What they are in essence doing is taking EVERYONE's content that does NOT advertise there such as Pl*yb*y, BangBros, etc. and use that as their sales tools.

It's like Paysite A that in their TOS says you may not use their content to promote any other site other than the one whose content you are using. Like taking a bangbros video set, making a gallery and submitting it to the hun with an entrance link to iFriends. How would BangBros feels about that? Once they found out, do you think they would be happy?

It's just a fucking loophole. It fucking genius and it's fucking wrong at the same time.

stickyfingerz

Put me back on ignore you silly cunt. I already told you not to breath in my direction. Some people will make money off torrents and p2p and all other forms of free traffic, and others wont. Others will try to fight something they will never ever ever stop. If you stopped torrents another form of free trade will come up. Here is a hint. The current bandwidth power of users will be 10 times what it is in less than 7 years. You will not stop it. Full DVDS will be uploaded in downloaded in no time uncompressed. Keep crying and whining, or find a way to make money off it.

»Rob Content«

I can assure you that is Coca Cola was running ads on C hi l D Porn movies, or websites, or even magazines that you would no longer see them on CBS or NBC.

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The Walrus

No, but NBC or CBS listens to the PEOPLE/PRESS that yap. How many controversial shows, episodes, etc have either been edited or cancelled altogether because of shit like that? Ads get threatened to be pulled or pulled period. Where is Don Imus now?

»Rob Content«

Making money off of and with people who spread CP/Underage content around the internet is wrong, and there is no defense to that.

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stickyfingerz

People that download them for free wouldnt buy a membership or a dvd anyways. Have interaction on your sites that they cant get from a torrent.

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The Walrus

Yeah, Hustler has been around so much linger than Playboy

»Rob Content«

Ok so then why put trailers on the torrent sites if those people won't buy? How did this help bangbus then? I am fighting you understand your theories.

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The Walrus

Why would they buy ANYTHING if they can get it for FREE?

Would you go drop $100 at the grocery store if there was a truck out in front of your house everyday stocked with everything you needed, wanted and then some? Come on man...

stickyfingerz

Funny Tmobile advertises on torrents sites. Do you boycott tmobile?

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»Rob Content«

For our content and what we do Larry Flyntt has by far done more then the Hef has.

Hef made seeing boobs and butt crack not so taboo.

LF made seeing nice spread open pink not so taboo.

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