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JOHNNY_BUTTHOLES · 06-21-2007, 11:19 PM

I's been trying to PHP Designer 2007, but i don't like the ftp integration. i don't want to have to upload a file to see every single change.

Masterchief · 06-21-2007, 11:21 PM

editplus, it's probably not the best but i'm just too used to it. after using it for 5-6 years its just too hard to get a feel for anything else.

Pete-KT · 06-21-2007, 11:23 PM

i use notepad and then test it with IE

pornask · 06-21-2007, 11:23 PM

PHP is server based scripting language. All script tasks are performed on the server and you only see the output of it. One script often calls (echoes) another so you pretty much have to upload it on the server to see the changes you have done. I'm not sure how other programmers do it or whether there is a way to see your scripts perform without uploading them on a server, but this is the way I've been doing it all the time.

NickSunshine · 06-21-2007, 11:29 PM

i use notepad, sometimes dreamweaver.
depends on whether im in the mood for highlighted code or not.

took a long time to get used to anything but notepad tho.
don't think i will ever stop.
sometimes i think code is easier to look at in black and white.

vas · 06-21-2007, 11:32 PM

i use ultraedit combined with dreamweaver..

munki · 06-21-2007, 11:33 PM

I use dreamweaver pretty much strictly... with notepad as a quick backup for direct server file changes.

tical · 06-21-2007, 11:39 PM

homesite

Nails · 06-21-2007, 11:46 PM

Real programmers use VI

JOHNNY_BUTTHOLES · 06-21-2007, 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornask

PHP is server based scripting language. All script tasks are performed on the server and you only see the output of it. One script often calls (echoes) another so you pretty much have to upload it on the server to see the changes you have done. I'm not sure how other programmers do it or whether there is a way to see your scripts perform without uploading them on a server, but this is the way I've been doing it all the time.

i understand this, but i just want to push a button that uploads the file i'm working on to a pre-configured ftp site. i don't want to go to an ftp client every time i make a quick adjustment to a table. i know that php designer is supposed to provide this, but it sucks. dreamweaver seems to completely assrape your development environment.

acctman · 06-21-2007, 11:50 PM

real programmers go old school... 1's and 0's punch cards

noam · 06-21-2007, 11:58 PM

I use editplus, and VMware for my dev environment.

I have 1 image with is a LAMP Ubuntu server with SAMBA so I don't need to mess with FTP and can just edit the files directly in editplus.

I have a second image with Windows xp with IE6 (I have IE7 on my parent OS) and Firefox for testing cross-browser compatibility.

But then again I don't write much code anymore. I spend most of my time throwing money around.

Swish · 06-22-2007, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Nails

Real programmers use VI

Damn straight!

k0nr4d · 06-22-2007, 02:00 AM

i use dreamweaver strictly

JOHNNY_BUTTHOLES · 06-22-2007, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d

i use dreamweaver strictly

i haven't used dreamweaver in ages. is the new version very good?

k0nr4d · 06-22-2007, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by JOHNNY_BUTTHOLES

i haven't used dreamweaver in ages. is the new version very good?

not really. I just use it because im too lazy to type out table structures manually and It matters to me what my admin areas/etc look like, so i like to switch back and force from design to code view.

footmonkey · 06-22-2007, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Nails

Real programmers use VI

Most powerful text editor ever made!!!

BucksMania · 06-22-2007, 02:15 AM

PHPed 4 here

jmk · 06-22-2007, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Nails

Real programmers use VI

Damn I still envy the guys that got VI

Pico is ok for me, I know I suck.

HomerSimpson · 06-22-2007, 02:57 AM

I use EmEditor... it's advanced notepad that supports a lot of programin languages... I test my scripts directly on server... or I run local webserver and test it on my computer...

grumpy · 06-22-2007, 03:08 AM

use maguma studio, instant checking of scripts

GirlsOnYou · 06-22-2007, 03:52 AM

I use PSPad, it is free and great and can handle other language highlighting as well, such as html. It highlights much like FireFox's View Page Source feature.

nation-x · 06-22-2007, 04:02 AM

yeah... like all you people are really programmers... lol... anyway... I use notepad++ because I like the ruby blue syntax highlighting, matching brace detection, multiple file editor and user defined hotkeys...

camshake · 06-22-2007, 04:35 AM

dreamweaver and code-genie , code-genie for quick fix on codes or viewing codes its a replacement for notepad, i dont like notepad for its one "undo" thing , but i like dreamweaver when starting on scratch i like the code coloring

Calvinguy · 06-22-2007, 05:24 AM

Install apache on your local machine and test without uploading.

For programming I use notepad+

psili · 06-22-2007, 05:59 AM

- Local apache host and conf that mirrors as close as possible my production environment.
- Eclipse IDE to edit the files.
- Subversion to push my changes to a repository and migrate to production.

= All 100% free.

Thomas007 · 06-22-2007, 07:02 AM

Zend Studio are the best I've seen so far.

I've used to use Ultraedit before I discovered Zend Studio.

I still use Ultraedit for quick edits.

http://www.zend.com/products/zend_studio
and
http://www.ultraedit.com/

To the notepad users:
A real editor makes you more productive.

rcides · 06-22-2007, 07:06 AM

forget them all.

use the tool from the php company:

Zend Development Enviroment. ITS GREAT!

polle54 · 06-22-2007, 07:10 AM

I just found a new PHP and everything else editor

It's Komodo

it's damn near perfect... it has most of what I love about Visual Studio

Code completion + parameter info, and not poorly implementet like php designer 2007.
Even auto completion on your own functions.

Debugging with attribute watchout.

It has a big support for almost any language.

It goes great with Wamp server. The latest project I had was made on my wortstation until very close to release. fucking brilliant tool.

bDok · 06-22-2007, 08:01 AM

Currently I use a combo of Dreamweaver, vim, and textmate. Like what other people already said about the code completion for html elements in dreamweaver. For edits and such it's vim.

Going to look into some of these other ones mentioned. Good thread.

u-Bob · 06-22-2007, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by polle54

It goes great with Wamp server.

What version/flavor of wamp do you use? the wampserver.com version, the inovative version?...

RichCashMike · 06-22-2007, 08:48 AM

In Zend Studio you can add an FTP server, and from that point on it treats it just like a folder on your hard drive. So you browse, open the file you want to edit (it downloads it for you), make some changes, hit save and it automatically uploads it. You don't even have to tell it to upload.. it handles all that for you.

Pryda · 06-22-2007, 08:54 AM

UltraEdit + WinSCP

JOHNNY_BUTTHOLES · 06-23-2007, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichCashMike

In Zend Studio you can add an FTP server, and from that point on it treats it just like a folder on your hard drive. So you browse, open the file you want to edit (it downloads it for you), make some changes, hit save and it automatically uploads it. You don't even have to tell it to upload.. it handles all that for you.

this sounds like exactly what i'm looking for. i'll give it a look - grazie

EDepth · 06-23-2007, 07:20 PM

been using Zend Studio now for ages, awesome for code completion, error checking etc.. but never really liked the built in FTP, always had issues with it working correctly.

StuartD · 06-23-2007, 07:46 PM

I use PHP Designer 2007 because for some reason, it seems to be the best at code completion and recognizing variables/functions from included files... as well as injecting my own comments into them.

To get around the uploading though, I've installed XAMPP onto my machine. It comes with Apache, PHP4 & PHP5 and MySQL (as well as some other stuff) so everything gets tested and retested locally in real time before uploading to the server.

Aric · 06-23-2007, 07:46 PM

Remind me never to hire this guy.

bl4h · 06-23-2007, 08:05 PM

I use notepad usually out of old habit (BAD because it wastes time), but ive been trying to get used to using zend studio. It save a lot of time with formatting and autosuggesting of functions and variables

Chariott · 06-23-2007, 10:19 PM

NuSphere PHPed 5 (for debugging and profiling) + PHP Expert Editor 3.0 (old version because it is amazingly fast).

06-21-2007, 11:19 PM	#1
JOHNNY_BUTTHOLES Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 146	PhP Programmers what development app do you use? I's been trying to PHP Designer 2007, but i don't like the ftp integration. i don't want to have to upload a file to see every single change. __________________

06-21-2007, 11:29 PM	#5
NickSunshine Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,196	i use notepad, sometimes dreamweaver. depends on whether im in the mood for highlighted code or not. took a long time to get used to anything but notepad tho. don't think i will ever stop. sometimes i think code is easier to look at in black and white. __________________

06-21-2007, 11:32 PM	#6
vas Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 562	i use ultraedit combined with dreamweaver.. __________________ icq: 375956791

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munki Do Fun Shit. Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OC Posts: 13,393	I use dreamweaver pretty much strictly... with notepad as a quick backup for direct server file changes. __________________ “I have the simplest tastes. I am always satisfied with the best.” -Oscar Wilde

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06-21-2007, 11:21 PM	#2
Masterchief Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 530	editplus, it's probably not the best but i'm just too used to it. after using it for 5-6 years its just too hard to get a feel for anything else.

06-21-2007, 11:23 PM	#3
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pornask So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: 253-233-241 Posts: 6,518	PHP is server based scripting language. All script tasks are performed on the server and you only see the output of it. One script often calls (echoes) another so you pretty much have to upload it on the server to see the changes you have done. I'm not sure how other programmers do it or whether there is a way to see your scripts perform without uploading them on a server, but this is the way I've been doing it all the time.

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Nails Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 262	Real programmers use VI

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noam Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 730	I use editplus, and VMware for my dev environment. I have 1 image with is a LAMP Ubuntu server with SAMBA so I don't need to mess with FTP and can just edit the files directly in editplus. I have a second image with Windows xp with IE6 (I have IE7 on my parent OS) and Firefox for testing cross-browser compatibility. But then again I don't write much code anymore. I spend most of my time throwing money around.

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nation-x Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Rock Hill, SC Posts: 5,370	yeah... like all you people are really programmers... lol... anyway... I use notepad++ because I like the ruby blue syntax highlighting, matching brace detection, multiple file editor and user defined hotkeys...

06-22-2007, 04:35 AM	#24
camshake Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 27	dreamweaver and code-genie , code-genie for quick fix on codes or viewing codes its a replacement for notepad, i dont like notepad for its one "undo" thing , but i like dreamweaver when starting on scratch i like the code coloring __________________ need php programming services? hit me up icq = 413968570

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Calvinguy Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: European Union Posts: 1,752	Install apache on your local machine and test without uploading. For programming I use notepad+

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psili Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Loveland, CO Posts: 5,526	- Local apache host and conf that mirrors as close as possible my production environment. - Eclipse IDE to edit the files. - Subversion to push my changes to a repository and migrate to production. = All 100% free. __________________ Your post count means nothing.

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Thomas007 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: AdultReviews.com - Denmark - ICQ: 6565211 Posts: 920	Zend Studio are the best I've seen so far. I've used to use Ultraedit before I discovered Zend Studio. I still use Ultraedit for quick edits. http://www.zend.com/products/zend_studio and http://www.ultraedit.com/ To the notepad users: A real editor makes you more productive. __________________ Get your paysite reviewed by Adult Reviews Get your paysite reviewed by Porn Reviews

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polle54 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The Beach Posts: 4,626	I just found a new PHP and everything else editor It's Komodo it's damn near perfect... it has most of what I love about Visual Studio Code completion + parameter info, and not poorly implementet like php designer 2007. Even auto completion on your own functions. Debugging with attribute watchout. It has a big support for almost any language. It goes great with Wamp server. The latest project I had was made on my wortstation until very close to release. fucking brilliant tool. __________________ ICQ# 143561781

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bDok Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: SD/OC/LA Posts: 1,917	Currently I use a combo of Dreamweaver, vim, and textmate. Like what other people already said about the code completion for html elements in dreamweaver. For edits and such it's vim. Going to look into some of these other ones mentioned. Good thread. __________________ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Warriors come out to plaAAaayyy! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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RichCashMike Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Montreal Posts: 40	In Zend Studio you can add an FTP server, and from that point on it treats it just like a folder on your hard drive. So you browse, open the file you want to edit (it downloads it for you), make some changes, hit save and it automatically uploads it. You don't even have to tell it to upload.. it handles all that for you. __________________

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