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  • JOHNNY_BUTTHOLES
    Confirmed User
    • Jun 2006
    • 146

    #1

    PhP Programmers what development app do you use?

    I's been trying to PHP Designer 2007, but i don't like the ftp integration. i don't want to have to upload a file to see every single change.
  • Masterchief
    Confirmed User
    • Jun 2006
    • 530

    #2
    editplus, it's probably not the best but i'm just too used to it. after using it for 5-6 years its just too hard to get a feel for anything else.

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    • Pete-KT
      Workin With The Devil
      • Oct 2004
      • 51532

      #3
      i use notepad and then test it with IE

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      • pornask
        So Fucking Banned
        • Aug 2006
        • 6518

        #4
        PHP is server based scripting language. All script tasks are performed on the server and you only see the output of it. One script often calls (echoes) another so you pretty much have to upload it on the server to see the changes you have done. I'm not sure how other programmers do it or whether there is a way to see your scripts perform without uploading them on a server, but this is the way I've been doing it all the time.

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        • NickSunshine
          Confirmed User
          • Mar 2006
          • 1196

          #5
          i use notepad, sometimes dreamweaver.
          depends on whether im in the mood for highlighted code or not.

          took a long time to get used to anything but notepad tho.
          don't think i will ever stop.
          sometimes i think code is easier to look at in black and white.

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          • vas
            Confirmed User
            • Dec 2003
            • 562

            #6
            i use ultraedit combined with dreamweaver..
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            • munki
              Do Fun Shit.
              • Dec 2004
              • 13393

              #7
              I use dreamweaver pretty much strictly... with notepad as a quick backup for direct server file changes.

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              • tical
                Confirmed User
                • Feb 2002
                • 6504

                #8
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                • Nails
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 262

                  #9
                  Real programmers use VI

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                  • JOHNNY_BUTTHOLES
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 146

                    #10
                    Originally posted by pornask
                    PHP is server based scripting language. All script tasks are performed on the server and you only see the output of it. One script often calls (echoes) another so you pretty much have to upload it on the server to see the changes you have done. I'm not sure how other programmers do it or whether there is a way to see your scripts perform without uploading them on a server, but this is the way I've been doing it all the time.


                    i understand this, but i just want to push a button that uploads the file i'm working on to a pre-configured ftp site. i don't want to go to an ftp client every time i make a quick adjustment to a table. i know that php designer is supposed to provide this, but it sucks. dreamweaver seems to completely assrape your development environment.

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                    • acctman
                      Confirmed User
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 2840

                      #11
                      real programmers go old school... 1's and 0's punch cards

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                      • noam
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 730

                        #12
                        I use editplus, and VMware for my dev environment.

                        I have 1 image with is a LAMP Ubuntu server with SAMBA so I don't need to mess with FTP and can just edit the files directly in editplus.

                        I have a second image with Windows xp with IE6 (I have IE7 on my parent OS) and Firefox for testing cross-browser compatibility.

                        But then again I don't write much code anymore. I spend most of my time throwing money around.

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                        • Swish
                          Confirmed User
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 1421

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Nails
                          Real programmers use VI
                          Damn straight!


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                          • k0nr4d
                            Confirmed User
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 9231

                            #14
                            i use dreamweaver strictly
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                            • JOHNNY_BUTTHOLES
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jun 2006
                              • 146

                              #15
                              Originally posted by k0nr4d
                              i use dreamweaver strictly
                              i haven't used dreamweaver in ages. is the new version very good?

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                              • k0nr4d
                                Confirmed User
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 9231

                                #16
                                Originally posted by JOHNNY_BUTTHOLES
                                i haven't used dreamweaver in ages. is the new version very good?
                                not really. I just use it because im too lazy to type out table structures manually and It matters to me what my admin areas/etc look like, so i like to switch back and force from design to code view.
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                                • footmonkey
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Nov 2005
                                  • 639

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Nails
                                  Real programmers use VI
                                  Most powerful text editor ever made!!!

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                                  • BucksMania
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Oct 2005
                                    • 3758

                                    #18
                                    PHPed 4 here

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                                    • jmk
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Sep 2002
                                      • 5391

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Nails
                                      Real programmers use VI
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                                      • HomerSimpson
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Sep 2005
                                        • 13826

                                        #20
                                        I use EmEditor... it's advanced notepad that supports a lot of programin languages... I test my scripts directly on server... or I run local webserver and test it on my computer...
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                                        • grumpy
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                                          • Jan 2002
                                          • 9870

                                          #21
                                          use maguma studio, instant checking of scripts
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                                          • GirlsOnYou
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Oct 2006
                                            • 618

                                            #22
                                            I use PSPad, it is free and great and can handle other language highlighting as well, such as html. It highlights much like FireFox's View Page Source feature.
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                                            • nation-x
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Mar 2004
                                              • 5370

                                              #23
                                              yeah... like all you people are really programmers... lol... anyway... I use notepad++ because I like the ruby blue syntax highlighting, matching brace detection, multiple file editor and user defined hotkeys...

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                                              • camshake
                                                Registered User
                                                • Mar 2007
                                                • 27

                                                #24
                                                dreamweaver and code-genie , code-genie for quick fix on codes or viewing codes its a replacement for notepad, i dont like notepad for its one "undo" thing , but i like dreamweaver when starting on scratch i like the code coloring
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                                                • Calvinguy
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                  • 1752

                                                  #25
                                                  Install apache on your local machine and test without uploading.

                                                  For programming I use notepad+

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                                                  • psili
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Apr 2003
                                                    • 5526

                                                    #26
                                                    - Local apache host and conf that mirrors as close as possible my production environment.
                                                    - Eclipse IDE to edit the files.
                                                    - Subversion to push my changes to a repository and migrate to production.

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                                                    • Thomas007
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Aug 2001
                                                      • 920

                                                      #27
                                                      Zend Studio are the best I've seen so far.

                                                      I've used to use Ultraedit before I discovered Zend Studio.

                                                      I still use Ultraedit for quick edits.

                                                      http://www.zend.com/products/zend_studio
                                                      and
                                                      http://www.ultraedit.com/


                                                      To the notepad users:
                                                      A real editor makes you more productive.


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                                                      • rcides
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • May 2007
                                                        • 108

                                                        #28
                                                        forget them all.

                                                        use the tool from the php company:

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                                                        • polle54
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jul 2004
                                                          • 4626

                                                          #29
                                                          I just found a new PHP and everything else editor

                                                          It's Komodo

                                                          it's damn near perfect... it has most of what I love about Visual Studio

                                                          Code completion + parameter info, and not poorly implementet like php designer 2007.
                                                          Even auto completion on your own functions.

                                                          Debugging with attribute watchout.

                                                          It has a big support for almost any language.

                                                          It goes great with Wamp server. The latest project I had was made on my wortstation until very close to release. fucking brilliant tool.
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                                                          • bDok
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Feb 2005
                                                            • 1917

                                                            #30
                                                            Currently I use a combo of Dreamweaver, vim, and textmate. Like what other people already said about the code completion for html elements in dreamweaver. For edits and such it's vim.

                                                            Going to look into some of these other ones mentioned. Good thread.
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                                                            • u-Bob
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                                                              • Jul 2005
                                                              • 33063

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by polle54
                                                              It goes great with Wamp server.
                                                              What version/flavor of wamp do you use? the wampserver.com version, the inovative version?...

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                                                              • RichCashMike
                                                                Registered User
                                                                • Jul 2004
                                                                • 40

                                                                #32
                                                                In Zend Studio you can add an FTP server, and from that point on it treats it just like a folder on your hard drive. So you browse, open the file you want to edit (it downloads it for you), make some changes, hit save and it automatically uploads it. You don't even have to tell it to upload.. it handles all that for you.

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                                                                • Pryda
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Dec 2005
                                                                  • 906

                                                                  #33
                                                                  UltraEdit + WinSCP
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                                                                  • JOHNNY_BUTTHOLES
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Jun 2006
                                                                    • 146

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by RichCashMike
                                                                    In Zend Studio you can add an FTP server, and from that point on it treats it just like a folder on your hard drive. So you browse, open the file you want to edit (it downloads it for you), make some changes, hit save and it automatically uploads it. You don't even have to tell it to upload.. it handles all that for you.
                                                                    this sounds like exactly what i'm looking for. i'll give it a look - grazie

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                                                                    • EDepth
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Nov 2005
                                                                      • 510

                                                                      #35
                                                                      been using Zend Studio now for ages, awesome for code completion, error checking etc.. but never really liked the built in FTP, always had issues with it working correctly.
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                                                                      • StuartD
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                                                                        • Jul 2002
                                                                        • 29903

                                                                        #36
                                                                        I use PHP Designer 2007 because for some reason, it seems to be the best at code completion and recognizing variables/functions from included files... as well as injecting my own comments into them.

                                                                        To get around the uploading though, I've installed XAMPP onto my machine. It comes with Apache, PHP4 & PHP5 and MySQL (as well as some other stuff) so everything gets tested and retested locally in real time before uploading to the server.
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                                                                        • Aric
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                                                                          • Sep 2002
                                                                          • 1209

                                                                          #37
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                                                                          • bl4h
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Jul 2006
                                                                            • 1282

                                                                            #38
                                                                            I use notepad usually out of old habit (BAD because it wastes time), but ive been trying to get used to using zend studio. It save a lot of time with formatting and autosuggesting of functions and variables
                                                                            Last edited by bl4h; 06-23-2007, 07:08 PM.

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                                                                            • Chariott
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Nov 2006
                                                                              • 361

                                                                              #39
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