Idiot Germans ban Tom Cruise film production due to Scientology

[JadaY]

Moron Krauts call Scientology a cult, and that is their basis for banning the filming. Nevermind the fact that every other insipid "religion" is nothing more than a cult as well.

http://www.reuters.com/article/enter...rpc=22&sp=true

[MaDalton]

fuck scientology

[You Forgot Poland]

Scientology is for idiots - the Germans don't tolerate idiots.

They didn't put up with jew bullshit, and now they are not putting up with scientologist bullshit. It's too bad they dont' round up all the scientologists and gas them

[tranza]

Wasn't Tom Cruise fired because of that in the US before???

[Sly]

Scientology is not comparable to other religions.

[tranza]

Yep, he was fired from Paramount Pictures back in August last year.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/23/bu...rssnyt&emc=rss

http://www.people.com/people/article...304046,00.html

[SykkBoy]

Fucking stupid
While I think Tom Cruise is a ignorant buffoon and a few grapes short of a bunch...he makes some damn entertaining movies...and isn't that what should matter? It's not like he's killed anyone (yet) inhaled a couple million dollars worth of drugs (yet)

[MaDalton]

scientology is NOT a religion, scientology is mind abuse. and dangerous.

[JadaY]

Originally Posted by Sly

Scientology is not comparable to other religions.

oh yeah? so what is your reasoning for saying that?

is it worse than worshiping a piece of meteorite (Islam)

is it worse than worshiping wooden t-shaped things? 9Christianity)

[Sly]

Originally Posted by tranza

Yep, he was fired from Paramount Pictures back in August last year.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/23/bu...rssnyt&emc=rss

http://www.people.com/people/article...304046,00.html

It wasn't publicly because of Scientology though.

The guy is nuts, but I love his movies.

[D]

Well, I don't recall anyone ever saying Germany was a free country.

Maybe we should invade them next?

[JadaY]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

scientology is NOT a religion, scientology is mind abuse. and dangerous.

yeah, and immaculate conception isn't.

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by JadaY

oh yeah? so what is your reasoning for saying that?

is it worse than worshiping a piece of meteorite (Islam)

is it worse than worshiping wooden t-shaped things? 9Christianity)

lol - let me guess: you spent some thousands to become a tetan or whatever that bullshit is called and now have to defend it?

[Sly]

Originally Posted by JadaY

oh yeah? so what is your reasoning for saying that?

is it worse than worshiping a piece of meteorite (Islam)

is it worse than worshiping wooden t-shaped things? 9Christianity)

I'm not up on Islam, but Christians do not worship a "wooden t-shaped thing". They don't worship a Cross either. The Cross is a symbol.

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by D

Well, I don't recall anyone ever saying Germany was a free country.

Maybe we should invade them next?

no need, you still got enough soldiers and bases on german territory. and we love mtv, coca cola, pepsi and mcdonalds already anyways

[TheLegacy]

A "religion" is a faith one is born into; a "cult" is a faith an adult joins voluntarily.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

no need, you still got enough soldiers and bases on german territory. and we love mtv, coca cola, pepsi and mcdonalds already anyways

You forgot David Hasselhoff!

[Sly]

Originally Posted by TheLegacy

A "religion" is a faith one is born into; a "cult" is a faith an adult joins voluntarily.

A lot of people join religions later on in life. If Bob is born into a Jewish family its a religion, but if he converts at the age of 25 he's a cult member?

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by Sly

You forgot David Hasselhoff!

and david hasselhoof, yeah

ok, invade us and send him first

[cranki]

Originally Posted by JadaY

Moron Krauts call Scientology a cult, and that is their basis for banning the filming. Nevermind the fact that every other insipid "religion" is nothing more than a cult as well.

http://www.reuters.com/article/enter...rpc=22&sp=true

officially. Do you know anything about Count Stauffenberg or German history at all? Then you might be able to understand why Tom Cruise is NOT the right person to impersonate him or make a movie about that topic at all...

[CosmicTang]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

scientology is NOT a religion, scientology is mind abuse. and dangerous.

I think Scientology is exactly what the German dude said it was, a scheme to make money masquerading as a religion. And if people insist on forking over their money, well it's their money.

IMO, Martyrs are dangerous.

[baddog]

good for germany

[XXXzidane]

Originally Posted by TheLegacy

A "religion" is a faith one is born into; a "cult" is a faith an adult joins voluntarily.

You can also be born into a cult. Such as cults that support certain acts with children. The mother gives birth to the child then its inducted into the cult as a member.

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by CosmicTang

I think Scientology is exactly what the German dude said it was, a scheme to make money masquerading as a religion. And if people insist on forking over their money, well it's their money.

IMO, Martyrs are dangerous.

wait a sec - it's not that easy. you can't simply say "And if people insist on forking over their money, well it's their money."

it's also about protecting those that are (maybe not yet) able to judge for themselves.

example: scientology opened a new headquarter in germany (they are not forbidden there, but they are not considered a church what pisses them off cause they would save millions in taxes otherwise). in front of their headquarter is a bus stop where every day hundreds of pupils wait for their bus. now these assholes started to apporach the kids with their dumb questionaries and stuff and tried to lure them into their building. theoretically this practice is forbidden, but they simply don't care. as long as it brings new members

[D]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

and david hasselhoof, yeah

ok, invade us and send him first

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by Sly

Scientology is not comparable to other religions.

I agree; scientology could actually be true if you compare it to the stories of all the other religions. But hey now im just being logical... sorry won't do that again!

[D]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

scientology is NOT a religion, scientology is mind abuse. and dangerous.

Sure it's a religion. Look up the definition of the word.

If you think that what you must consider "religions" weren't a form of mind control or way of making money, then you haven't bothered learning very much Western History.

Christianity was widely considered a "cult" as recent as 1700 years ago.

You give credit to the other "cults" simply because they've been around longer, have more of a following, and their desire to control the minds of their followers or absorb their pocketbooks maybe isn't as obvious as it once was.



Personally, I think Sting put it best: "Men go crazy in congregations, but they only get better one by one"

[Brad]

who cares, he'll go somewhere else and make the shitty movie anyways.

[Brad]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

wait a sec - it's not that easy. you can't simply say "And if people insist on forking over their money, well it's their money."

it's also about protecting those that are (maybe not yet) able to judge for themselves.

example: scientology opened a new headquarter in germany (they are not forbidden there, but they are not considered a church what pisses them off cause they would save millions in taxes otherwise). in front of their headquarter is a bus stop where every day hundreds of pupils wait for their bus. now these assholes started to apporach the kids with their dumb questionaries and stuff and tried to lure them into their building. theoretically this practice is forbidden, but they simply don't care. as long as it brings new members

That's what all religious movements do. They hang out at schools and create youth groups to try to get us as kids before we can think for ourselves. Anyone who doesn't think this is totally fucked up should watch the brainwashing in Jesus Camp. Truly the most disturbing footage I've seen in recent memory.

[macmark]

Originally Posted by TheLegacy

A "religion" is a faith one is born into;

No one is born into a religion, not 1 single human being. A 'jewish child' is just a child with jewish parents. They choose to branwash their offspring with their own beliefs..

IMO it's nothing short of child abuse.

[JadaY]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

lol - let me guess: you spent some thousands to become a tetan or whatever that bullshit is called and now have to defend it?

Let me guess, you believe that a woman was spawned from a ribcage in a magical garden?

[gangbangjoe]

i would ban this lunatic from the whole world..

and fuck you jaday

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by JadaY

Let me guess, you believe that a woman was spawned from a ribcage in a magical garden?

i believe you are an idiot - no, wait, i even know you are an idiot

i believe in Darwin and therefore i believe your chances are weak to become very old

[TheLegacy]

Originally Posted by macmark

No one is born into a religion, not 1 single human being. A 'jewish child' is just a child with jewish parents. They choose to branwash their offspring with their own beliefs..

IMO it's nothing short of child abuse.

your parents never took you to church, nor force you into child baptism? you are a product of your parents religion, you can choose to walk away from it - but most parents take their baby into a church or tell them that they are part of some organized religion, its not by choice as said - its handed down.

call it whatever you want.. brainwashing etc. but the truth is - your born into it - meaning it already exists in your family. hate it or not - if there was a bible in there, your were born into the process of what they beleive or not believe.. or do you think that parents have no influence on children in how they think, act or react? the parents are influenced by the "good book" and "golden rule"... therefore you are.

[TheDoc]

Scientology doesn't teach faith.. Religions do. Both steal your money, both were built for money and forcing people into submission. Both are fucked and Scientology is a Cult, like most Religions.

However, religion, does do one thing correctly, they teach faith. And it doesn't mater what religion you believe in or not, as long as you have pure love, you will get all the faith you need. Nothing else is important.

If you don't understand that, it's because you have been brainwashed into ignoring the facts around you.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

and david hasselhoof, yeah

ok, invade us and send him first

Originally Posted by tranza

Wasn't Tom Cruise fired because of that in the US before???

Yes he was. He said some pretty stupid things in interviews like there is no such thing as a chemical imbalance and that he knows because he read books on the subject. Then he ripped on Brooke Shields for taking anti depressants. After all of that people were pissed at how he was acting. I guess in his religion they do know believe in mental illnesses and medication for them. I also think his dancing on the furniture about how much he liked Katie Holmes didn't help him either.

[Nurgle]

idiots? i think not.. someone finally has some sense

[CE_Chris]

What year is it??? Aren't you allowed to beleave whatever you want as long as know one gets hurt????

[D]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Scientology doesn't teach faith.

Sure it Does.

It's you that's applying your own (to use your word) "brainwashed" definition of what 'faith' is to the situation. For different people, faith is different things.

[aico]

Now only if we can ban them here in the US too.