Valium VS Xanax?

[tical]

Never tried xanax before but I have 2 bars here... I think thats 2mg each? I'll do some further research before I take them.. I'm just assuming its 2mg right now.

I've done valium before, usually takes about 20mg to get me nice and pleasant...

Are the two comparable? Should I split this in half or just go balls out and do the whole thing?

[D]

Valium's a muscle relaxer while Xanax is an anti-depressant.

[escorpio]

2 mgs. of Xanax is exactly what you want if you take 20mgs. of Valium.

[JP513]

Originally Posted by D

Valium's a muscle relaxer while Xanax is an anti-depressant.

Doesn't matter. They are both used for sleeping.

[JP513]

Having said that . . . I don't have much luck with either. Ambien is where it's at!

[woj]

Don't forget to chase it down with some booze for maximum effect

[Mr Pheer]

Ambien CR is nice. I've been off of it for 4 days though, even though its prescribed to me. Decided I didnt want to take a chance with building up a dependence for it. I can sleep for about 6 or 7 hours now without it after taking it for 6 weeks, was only able to sleep about 4 hours before.

[tical]

Originally Posted by JP513

Having said that . . . I don't have much luck with either. Ambien is where it's at!

never been able to get a hold of that, can you order it online?

[JP513]

Originally Posted by woj

Don't forget to chase it down with some booze for maximum effect

oh yeah, totally! 2 shots of scotch or bourboun and I'm good to go!

[dynastoned]

Originally Posted by woj

Don't forget to chase it down with some booze for maximum effect

fuuuuuck i remember i took 30mg of valium and drank half a bottle of gin one night. that ended up nice.

[DatingGold]

Originally Posted by D

Valium's a muscle relaxer while Xanax is an anti-depressant.

wrong on both

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by DatingGold

wrong on both

Nope, he's right, although their main purpose is for anxiety.

[pr0]

Originally Posted by DatingGold

wrong on both

lol...a fellow part time pharmacist?

valium, falls within the drug classification of benzodiazepines.

Benzo's include xanax, valium, ambien, halcion, etc. etc.

basically all work the same way...the molecules hit the blood stream, travel to the brain & work on certain neuron receptors (much like alcohol in that its the same effect as a central nervous system depressant)

valium is in fact used as a muscle relaxer in certain instances (as well as sleep aid) but these were not the intended uses of the medication

benzo's were originally made to treat seizures & severe anxiety (like freaking out because u got stung by 30 bee's & think u might swell up anxiety), as they slow down the overactive receptors responsible for them

of course now valium & xanax are used as alcohol for the suburbanites who refuse to admit they have a drinking or marriage problem

[tical]

Originally Posted by pr0

of course now valium & xanax are used as alcohol for the suburbanites who refuse to admit they have a drinking or marriage problem

hahaha good one

[pr0]

to answer your question

xanax is a much stronger, faster acting (but shorter life-span) drug

2mg of xanax & a glass of wine, you probably won't remember what you did exactly the next day, not that you get out of hand like a drunk, you just suffer memory loss the next day of a perfectly uneventful evening

valium, you gain a tolerance to quickly & it may act like xanax for a few weeks

my TIP to you

stay away from both...have a nice couple glasses of scotch & smoke a cigar in the hot tub if your having anxiety issues

otherwise a year goes by & you remember about 10 minutes of it later on in life.......chuuuuch

[mattz]

They are both benzos, just xanax is wayyy stronger

2 mg of xanax will have you floored and puking

2 mg of valium will do nothing

[pr0]

Originally Posted by mattz

They are both benzos, just xanax is wayyy stronger

2 mg of xanax will have you floored and puking

2 mg of valium will do nothing

2mg of xanax for some people....naturally hyper people just yawn a lot while their awake

[mattz]

Originally Posted by D

Valium's a muscle relaxer while Xanax is an anti-depressant.

you are completely wrong, dont give drug info if you dont know

both are anti-anxiety drugs

they both are very similar, both are benzos, xanax is way stronger though

[BIGTYMER]

You idiots. pr0 speaks the truth. And if I had to pick one I'd pick Valium as it stays in the blood 10x longer.

[mattz]

Originally Posted by pr0

2mg of xanax for some people....naturally hyper people just yawn a lot while their awake

2mg of xanax would have a 'normal' person really fucked up

[mattz]

Originally Posted by BigTymer

You idiots. pr0 speaks the truth. And if I had to pick one I'd pick Valium as it stays in the blood 10x longer.

yet valium is 5 times weaker

[pr0]

Originally Posted by BigTymer

You idiots. pr0 speaks the truth. And if I had to pick one I'd pick Valium as it stays in the blood 10x longer.

Klonopin has both of them owned. 12 hour active life-span & doesn't taste like ass if you drop it under your tongue (since its made for seizures)

Oh & its addictive qualities are about 1/10th that of xanax & valium.

My advice, stay away from them all!!!! Have a drink once in awhile

[pr0]

Originally Posted by mattz

yet valium is 5 times weaker

lets all just agree that I'm right here

i'm the one with a fucking masters degree in pharmaceuticals over here

i can tell you which receptors a certain flavor binds to, even which drugs interact with them to cause pleasant side effects

but...i'm not 21 years old anymore....so lemme state again

no one fucking take these things....they're for experienced head cases only

Originally Posted by pr0

lol...a fellow part time pharmacist?

valium, falls within the drug classification of benzodiazepines.

Benzo's include xanax, valium, ambien, halcion, etc. etc.

basically all work the same way...the molecules hit the blood stream, travel to the brain & work on certain neuron receptors (much like alcohol in that its the same effect as a central nervous system depressant)

valium is in fact used as a muscle relaxer in certain instances (as well as sleep aid) but these were not the intended uses of the medication

benzo's were originally made to treat seizures & severe anxiety (like freaking out because u got stung by 30 bee's & think u might swell up anxiety), as they slow down the overactive receptors responsible for them

of course now valium & xanax are used as alcohol for the suburbanites who refuse to admit they have a drinking or marriage problem

Nice to see someone on here knows what they are talking about. I take Xanax for anxiety. It works well for that.

[tical]

thanks pr0, sometimes its nice to pop a valium or two here n there...

i do it a few times a month when i'm stressed to shit... i'm not really into drinking (unless i'm partying) + it fucks w/ my appetite

i just had these bars sitting here for like 3 months and was wondering what to expect whenever i get the time to give em a shot

appreciate the heads up

[sexxxydesign.com]

Xanax is strong.. if you never took it.. go with 0.5mg first (if your table is divided in 4 just take one piece)

Have you tried Bromazepam?

[pr0]

Originally Posted by tical

thanks pr0, sometimes its nice to pop a valium or two here n there...

i do it a few times a month when i'm stressed to shit... i'm not really into drinking (unless i'm partying) + it fucks w/ my appetite

i just had these bars sitting here for like 3 months and was wondering what to expect whenever i get the time to give em a shot

appreciate the heads up

drop 2mg under your tongue & let us know how it went in the morning

chances are you won't remember making this post

Originally Posted by pr0

Klonopin has both of them owned. 12 hour active life-span & doesn't taste like ass if you drop it under your tongue (since its made for seizures)

Oh & its addictive qualities are about 1/10th that of xanax & valium.

My advice, stay away from them all!!!! Have a drink once in awhile

Klonopin is a seizure medication. It does have a longer active life span, but I found it to make me really tired. Much more tired then on Xanax. Not sure if the dose was to high or if seizure medications just make you more tired.

[media]

Tical, You're my boy.. I'll give you the straight dope on what to take..

If you're not taking it alot take xanax, .5-1.0mg is good shit, it will knock you on your ass.. It is not an anti depressant like some people have said in this thread, it is an anti anxiety treatment..

Another good one is Ativan. AKA Lorazepam as generic it's also in the family of anti-anxiety treatments, it has far less addictive properties as xanax, but packs a little less punch..

I only take xanax when I'm at the shows usually since I need to get some sleep. I was taking ativan twice daily when dealing with the drama of the last 6 months which you know all about. Which left me nice and comfortably numb.. I did not have any problems coming off of it.

So there you have it..

[SuckOnThis]

The bottom line is they both have the same basic effect. Xanax is faster acting than Valium and Valium stays in your system longer. 30 mg of Valium and I could still feel the effects 2 days later.

.5 mg of Xanax is close to 10 mg of Valium (unless its that cheap horseshit from India).

The problem with these drugs is they are highly addictive and the withdrawals are terrible. To abruptly stop Valium after an extended period of use is extremely dangerous and can cause seizures and sometimes death.

[alias]

xanax makes me more tired than diazepam

[Dukes]

.........Xanax is great for anxiety, Ativan was ok, to me Xanax is easier to get, I take 1/4 when I feel the stress and it does good for me;)

[You Forgot Poland]

Xanax is x10 times stronger than Valium (diazepam)

2mg will fuck you up.

dont take it for more than a week straight, you will develop a dependency and benzo withdrawals suck.

[PersianKitty]

Only thing I found that works consistently for me for sleep is a combination of nortriptyline and halcion. My sleep cycle got totally screwed up after surgery last September and the subsequent pain meds.

Valium just makes me not give a dang and xanax just makes me loopy but not sleep.

PK

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by D

Valium's a muscle relaxer while Xanax is an anti-depressant.

anti anxiety chief.

Originally Posted by woj

Don't forget to chase it down with some booze for maximum effect

lol!

Originally Posted by DatingGold

wrong on both

Exactamundo.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by pr0

to answer your question

xanax is a much stronger, faster acting (but shorter life-span) drug

2mg of xanax & a glass of wine, you probably won't remember what you did exactly the next day, not that you get out of hand like a drunk, you just suffer memory loss the next day of a perfectly uneventful evening

valium, you gain a tolerance to quickly & it may act like xanax for a few weeks

my TIP to you

stay away from both...have a nice couple glasses of scotch & smoke a cigar in the hot tub if your having anxiety issues

otherwise a year goes by & you remember about 10 minutes of it later on in life.......chuuuuch

My counter tip for you.

Eat better, and get on a treadmill. Run a few miles a day. End of anxiety.

[Juicy D. Links]

Dr Juicy is hereeeeeeeeee

[polle54]

I can't believe you guys acutally poison your bodies with all this crap

Get a fucking grip, they are not a solution just symptom killas.

Get out, party have fun, study - do something and get out of the fucking basement and 99% will not have any issues that requires that shit.

I know about 100 - 150 and not one single one of them need stupid shit like that... How the fuck come half of gfy do then??

[Subtle]

Well said pr0, hope people listen to you.

[Juicy D. Links]

Originally Posted by pr0

to answer your question

xanax is a much stronger, faster acting (but shorter life-span) drug

2mg of xanax & a glass of wine, you probably won't remember what you did exactly the next day, not that you get out of hand like a drunk, you just suffer memory loss the next day of a perfectly uneventful evening

valium, you gain a tolerance to quickly & it may act like xanax for a few weeks

my TIP to you

stay away from both...have a nice couple glasses of scotch & smoke a cigar in the hot tub if your having anxiety issues

otherwise a year goes by & you remember about 10 minutes of it later on in life.......chuuuuch

Good post , I also agree STAY THE FUCK AWAY from it.... trust me...

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by polle54

How the fuck come half of gfy do then??

Its not because its gfy its because they are Americans. You will see this on any mainly American board.

Originally Posted by polle54

I can't believe you guys acutally poison your bodies with all this crap

Get a fucking grip, they are not a solution just symptom killas.

Get out, party have fun, study - do something and get out of the fucking basement and 99% will not have any issues that requires that shit.

I know about 100 - 150 and not one single one of them need stupid shit like that... How the fuck come half of gfy do then??

It would be great to not have to take any drus at all. I have panic attacks and off medication it is not a pretty sight. So I am only on Xanax now. Before they had me on Paxil, Zoloft, Prozac, etc. Xanax is better then the other options. They have horrible side effects.

Originally Posted by Dirty Franck

Its not because its gfy its because they are Americans. You will see this on any mainly American board.

Sorry to burst your bubble but these drugs are used world wide. It is not just Americans that take them. I belong to online groups for people with panic attacks and anxiety, and the members are from all over the world. So get your info straight before making such a stupid comment.

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by JaneB

Sorry to burst your bubble but these drugs are used world wide. It is not just Americans that take them. I belong to online groups for people with panic attacks and anxiety, and the members are from all over the world. So get your info straight before making such a stupid comment.

Yeah they are worldwide but please go look up some stats. Simpleton.

Originally Posted by Dirty Franck

Yeah they are worldwide but please go look up some stats. Simpleton.

Now I know why people think you are a retarded ass. You need to go read some stats. While reading the stats, find a drug that your dumbass can take so we don't have to read your bullshit anymore. You are clearly in need of some type of drug.

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by JaneB

Now I know why people think you are a retarded ass. You need to go read some stats. While reading the stats, find a drug that your dumbass can take so we don't have to read your bullshit anymore. You are clearly in need of some type of drug.

The US is the highest medicated country in the world, any fool knows that.

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by JaneB

Now I know why people think you are a retarded ass. You need to go read some stats. While reading the stats, find a drug that your dumbass can take so we don't have to read your bullshit anymore. You are clearly in need of some type of drug.

Well, i cant blame you though for being American and not knowing much about the rest of the world.

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

The US is the highest medicated country in the world, any fool knows that.

Now she will call you a retarded ass.

[Myst]

damn pr0 youve got a masters in pharmaceuticals?

[abcx]

Originally Posted by tical

Never tried xanax before but I have 2 bars here... I think thats 2mg each? I'll do some further research before I take them.. I'm just assuming its 2mg right now.

I've done valium before, usually takes about 20mg to get me nice and pleasant...

Are the two comparable? Should I split this in half or just go balls out and do the whole thing?

2mg is the full amount and id take both bars personally but one bar you will feel.