1000 false accusations.

Sleazy made a right ass of himself in this thread, but at least he did apologize. The Cybercat credit was a nice touch, too. Be interesting to see if Mike Hawk and Ycaza can man up too or continue to keep their head in the sand hoping this will just go away.

WOW! 20 pages later :Oh crap

Can somebody please help czasa... he left to fly to vegas and lost his wallet and hasn't been seen since :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Keep your chin up Lisa :thumbsup

I really hope that you were not educated in the US, if so our system failed.

Just like this thread failed: do not accuse...just become a verbal boob believer :)

Not true.

I am not the same person as my what I reflect on the board.
I am much less self congratulatory in person.

:1orglaugh

If attacking me makes your sorry sorry life feel better for a moment it's a good thing.I accused no one of anything,you attacked me and when you couldn't get the response you wanted you attacked me some more very sorry.

So what ended up being on the tapes?

We dont know yet dude got his wallet jacked again when he went back to Vegas so we have to wait and see.

Thats where I differ from most of you people. Someone acts like an asshole 99% of the time, and I don't mean just insults and stupid comments but they do things to try to ruin your business. They speak about shit they know nothing about, and when they say " opps my bad, I am sorry" they are suppose to be congratulated for it. Fuck that.


You see that time and time again here. Someone can fucking kill people then say "opps i am sorry" and people will say " that was big of you, you are a stand up guy and i have respect for you for owning up to your mistake."

Whatever, you just enable idiots like this to act the way they do. Why would anyone actually be nice, professional, or god forbid think before they speak if they can just wipe the slate clean by saying " opps i am sorry" if they really fuck up and say too much. :upsidedow which is often.

I'll say this a million times, the way these fucks act online is more like their true selves then they do in person. Online they don't have the fear of getting their ass kicked. People are more likely to act *fake* and be less confrontational when the person is right in front of them and not 1,000 miles away. These people would never call a black person a " nig" or a women a "cunt" in person but online they do it all the time.

It's no act, its the way they really are TO PEOPLE THEY DON'T know. Sure they likely are nice to their *friends* in person so their friend will tell you " but he is really a nice guy in person". But he is also a nice guy to his friends online as well. It comes down to how these people shoot their mouths off to people they are not friends with online vs offline, which i a big difference. The online person is who they really are, the guy who is nice to you in person is the one with a false front. Whether he knows it just isn't acceptable to insult the person in front of him, where as online it is acceptable and wont cost him money$, or he is just too scared to say it in person for fear he will get his ass kicked. Whatever the reason, when these people act like assholes online, what you see is the real person they are.

A board persona is like juciy or the boy alley. It's not some asshole who feels he can "let go" online because he can think his mind and get away with it. That is not a persona, thats just an asshole.

Attacking you? Just pointing out that you are seem to post really dumb shit all the time. Sorry for pointing it out and you just got the hint.

Should I point more out to you? I doubt it would make any difference.:upsidedow

Sorry for the edit but lets get real :)

this thread has become utterly homosexual

What did I post that is dumb?You dont agree so its dumb,thats mature. Why do you think companies start offshore besides the tax breaks, it makes them judgement proof. If picking on me makes you feel better about yourself be my guest. Your a very sad person,Ive done nothing to you.

I have no problem telling anyone that they're being a cunt, male or female. Ask my ex girlfriend. :1orglaugh

I'm sure they were probably referring to your horrible sentence structure, grammar and spelling. I often skip over anything you have to say because it's just so difficult to read. I'm not trying to pick on you, but this is a reading and writing medium.

I get my point across and my spelling is fine, firefox has a spell checker haven't spelled anything wrong in a long time. Also most of my posts aren't paragraphs.

You dont want to read what I have to say,thats your choice. Her attacking me when Ive done nothing to her is uncalled for.

so, who did it?

At this point she was innocent. A canceled card got cleared to make a purchase. This could only happen by clerical error. Listen to Peaches.

Will is the culprit

MrPheer ?

so SleazyDream comes along....gets things going crazy with ya she is BAD GIRL and she must have done BS. Then says....Hey guys I Re-Read whole thread...and well Lisa is clearly innocent so i'm sorry and here is a 1,000.00 bucks of free add space.

now the out come of this Mini drama............well WTF nothing just a few pages of shit.

WTF is the deal with the TWO who STARTED all this SHIT.

Now also ONE of the TWO is FLYING to VEGAS to watch Security Tapes...?

Yet Sleazy could see that after a Re Read she is NOT Guilty.

Who really thinks the Hard Rock is going to let some review security tapes for this ?

Did I mention that the So Called CC had been Canceled days before this.
Did we also figure out that the WALLET was lost in a drunkin Golf outing, Not Stolen or at least not STOLEN or LOST IN VEGAS.

Hey i know....5,000 reasons to say hey maybe i should do a re read.

Ram I know and respect you- maybe you should do a re read.



on first few pages I would crusify her. but how she constantly showed proof of being in the airport - paying her bill, not being in vegas for the night in question, etc... it slowly started looking better and better for her and then considering the amount of days that went by - well - she didn't waver and the others disappeared.

says a LOT about her and leads me to believe she was telling the truth. :2 cents:

At this point Mike Hawk should probably just stay the fuck away from this board altogether, forever. Leaving her to twist in the wind for a week was about the dumbest thing I've ever seen any so-called .... uh, what is he? Professional? Leader? Businessman? do.

I'm thinking none of the above.

And if Ycaza is the top notch guy some have said he is he should have said something by now by way of an apology.


As for Sleazy, too bad it took a re-read to figure out what many already knew. Bro first and ask questions later "probally" isn't the best way to go at all costs, maybe that's the lesson here. Props for at least doing the 180 and making amends, although it doesn't undo what Mike Hawk pulled.

bro - as you call it - is trusting someone based on your experience with them. I'll honestly continue to do that. It's how I run my business.

and honestly finding her name on my stolen credit card bill i would have probally come to GFY with it too. I would slowly come to terms with and admit when it looks liek the hotel made a mistake though....as it does here.

That is really pefect and makes sense - really the whole part from start to finish.

However the other two and that we will view the security tapes is just burning my ASS like the mother of all Hemroids.

Caz will probably meet with his attorney today to draft a response to wit:

"Although I feel I have done nothing wrong, blah blah blah blah....... it appears that a clerical error was made at the hotel... blah blah blah blah..... "

and as already stated.. MikeHawk just needs to stay away.. Nothing he could say would make much difference at this point...

Why is this thread off of the front page ?
It must remain page 1 until resolved !

For those of you keeping score at home:

SleazyDream apologized to Lisa SparXXX :thumbsup

Drinking Hardest apologized to TeenMegaCash (different thread) :thumbsup

Ycaza and MikeHawk are still missing in action... :disgust

ADG

Just had to quote something that's probably never been said before :)

Love ya Sag :thumbsup

But yes, from Day 1 I've said it was a clerical error.

And a clerk showing someone else the name and address of a customer of theirs? I'd be all over that with HR too. Instances like that are why God made Sharpies. :mad:

even the people that claim to be her friend have had bad experiences with her. this chick sounds like pure white trash. what's the $5000 going towards, meth?

The difference is you would admit the mistake and take care of it. That hasn't been done here by anyone. Seems a couple people quickly turned into cowards.

hi Mike! :321GFY

trusting people you know is one thing, feeling compelled to defend the people you know in public and slander the other person in the process without reading the thread is another thing.


Just because your credit card was used on someone else's room bill doesn't mean shit. If you would have come to GFY accusing that person of stealing your wallet just because of what easily could have been a hotel mistake, with you have no proof to back up your accusations of THEFT, then you would have been just as wrong and stupid as the person who made this thread.

Bros shoot from the mouth, without proof, and if they are wrong and hurt someone in the process they say opps sorry and everyone is like wow, so big of you.

Watch how many " wow Mike so big of you to apologize, you top notch" comments there will be if Mike ever does apologize.

So Ycaza never posted what he found out on his trip to Vegas??

Wow it should be said more often. You use a lot of reason in your post. I've always noticed that.

wouldn't it cost more to fly to vegas to look at tapes, than the charge that was on the canceled card to begin with?

Actually, I think you have the point of the post backwards. Even the people who have had "problems" with her don't think she is a thief.

I wonder how those people that defended Ycaza feel right now. People have said what a "top notch" guy he is. It was kind of believable until now. He has totally backed out of this and left everyone hanging. Pretty pathetic.

and apologies mean what exactly?

They do more good to the person making them then to the person they fucked over in the first place.

Who gives a shit about an apology, in both cases it became very clear that the people making the accusations were dead wrong. In both cases they tried to destroy someone else's business with no proof, and " opps i am sorry" makes up for all the damage they did to that person? well it certainly makes themselves look better which is the only reason they do it.

Caz said the hotel told him someone came to the front desk to pay off their room with his card. Anyone would have figured that if you find the person who was in that room you found the thief. That's the information available at the beginning of this thread. It now looks like they lied to Caz about a person coming to the front desk maybe to covering up their clerical error.

Look back at the beginning of the thread. Sleazy wasn't the only one ready to roast Lisa based on this information. He's just the only one to admit he was wrong and try to make good for his mistake.

you're missing the point though... regardless of what the available information makes someone think, the jump from thinking to publicly posting is what is very, very wrong... especially when it's about an accusation of a serious criminal offense

No I get it he jumped to conclusions like many others did. My point is why are people on Sleazy's back when he's the only one to correct himself and offer a Cybercat credit as a make good? At least he was man enough to do that. :2 cents:

An apology is an acknowledgment expressing regret or asking pardon for a fault or offense. Whatever the motivation, it is a step in the right direction.

Whether the person to whom the apology is directed accepts the apology is an altogether different issue.

The offended party may even accept the apology, yet still pursue legal action for the damages which they suffered.

ADG

btw sleazy didn't publicly post anything. He just commented on the information that was out there. When he realized it didn't all add up he quickly turned around and offered his apology.

I am sure it has nothing to do with him doing this ALL the time. :2 cents:

this in itself is the public posting of a unfounded accusation... what he and the bros considered to be evidence was, in point of fact, far short of any evidentiary standard... he didn't need to the the first in the thread to do it for it to be wrong and stupid... and legally actionable

I'm not disagreeing with you. He's not disagreeing with you. HE WAS WRONG. He admitted it and is trying to make good. Many people from page 1-5 haven't even admitted they were wrong but yet they are picking on Scott.

I said earlier that I wanted to congratulate him, but that desire was tempered by the information that he constantly does this without seeming to ever learn from his mistakes... and that even after the lengthy post apologizing, he continued to make moronic statements about what the "evidence" indicated, when it indicated no such thing to a sensible, thinking person unless their mode of thinking was weaned on soap operas and Jerry Springer

Yes and that is right also he is GIVING Lisa 1,000.00 FREE Advertising....not just a discount...opps thats in another thread about 16,000 reasons not to jump the gun :thumbsup