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Old 07-21-2007, 09:08 PM   #901
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Old 07-21-2007, 09:12 PM   #902
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Old 07-21-2007, 09:13 PM   #903
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It's been nearly three full days since you made your last post. You indicated you were going to Vegas on Thursday to get answers and clear everything up.

It's now Saturday night...and no report back as of yet.

Your silence and that of the people that originally launched the attacks directed at Lisa is deplorable. It's time to put yourselves in her place.

Either lay out your proof or apologize already. Your credibility and the credibility of your bro's is on the line.

To remain silent is (to coin a new word), bro-tarded...

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Ycaza seems like a good guy, and his company seems solid, so I am puzzled about this as well.
All he would need to do is fax the two conflicting copies to the hotel accounting dept. and have them explain what the deal was...

Probably could have been solved within minutes...
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Old 07-21-2007, 10:44 PM   #905
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So now i will tell you that Karma is going to play a huge part in this deal, ..

The irony of that statement cracks me up..
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Old 07-21-2007, 10:44 PM   #906
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Ycaza seems like a good guy, and his company seems solid, so I am puzzled about this as well.

I thought Stand-Up, Top Notch bro's, stood for more than buying drinks at shows...

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Old 07-21-2007, 10:54 PM   #907
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Shut up about the fucking wallet already. I stole the shit you happy? I split the $1000 with everyone on my buddylist and got them to signup to the porn sites i promote,i tripled my investment thanks.
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Old 07-21-2007, 11:12 PM   #908
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Shut up about the fucking wallet already.
Easy to say when you have no reputation to lose...

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Easy to say when you have no reputation to lose...

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Old 07-22-2007, 01:05 AM   #912
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Old 07-22-2007, 04:00 AM   #916
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So I am a thief because, I am a model? I been in the business for six years. Just because we have never talked I am wrong here? I have been to about a dozen conventions though out the years. Thank god I been to those or I would really be in trouble.
no - you are being labeled a theif till someone - and honestly at this point the onus is on you - to prove you didn't charge that card.


to be honest if I saw your name on a stolen card of mine i'd do the exact same thing they did. It's pretty heavy ecidence against you. Not saying an error didn't happen - it's possible. people have been convicted with WAY less in the past though...........

posting something from the hardrock would help to that regard in regards to the charge that showed up in your name on Czasa's credit card. without that, the only people siding with you are the no name trolls that love to hate me on here and wana bang you.
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i hope she wakes up to find she has aids - the CANCEROUS kind. and then dies in a fire a little later, but then comes back to life in an amazing scientific experiment - and then dies again!

she would get what she deserves then

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All he would need to do is fax the two conflicting copies to the hotel accounting dept. and have them explain what the deal was...

Probably could have been solved within minutes...
smartest thing said in this thread.
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i hope she wakes up to find she has aids - the CANCEROUS kind. and then dies in a fire a little later, but then comes back to life in an amazing scientific experiment - and then dies again!

she would get what she deserves then

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that's not cool and i wouldn't wish that on anyone regarding a dispute over material things.
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that's not cool and i wouldn't wish that on anyone regarding a dispute over material things.
i wasnt being serious, there is no such thing as cancerous aids and reincarnation has not been proven :O
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So I am a thief because, I am a model? I been in the business for six years. Just because we have never talked I am wrong here? I have been to about a dozen conventions though out the years. Thank god I been to those or I would really be in trouble.

oh, I've actually met you in person and spoke to you maybe four to five times at different shows over the years- introduced a few times now actually. Not that I matter or really cared. But I noticed, and honestly not cause you're a model, I noticed cause you're trying to get your program off the ground in the hardcore niche and I make it my business to assess business owners when I meet them in person to judge intelligence too see if I wana persue anything with them in the niches I do business in.

My thoughts were on meeting you (several times) that you don't really run your own site. Not saying that's good or bad, just my assesment. With that assessment I didn't figgure you're have any benefit to me to talk more. I may be wrong - that was just my opinion on meeting you and why I didn't persue any more time with you.
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no - you are being labeled a theif till someone - and honestly at this point the onus is on you - to prove you didn't charge that card.


to be honest if I saw your name on a stolen card of mine i'd do the exact same thing they did. It's pretty heavy ecidence against you. Not saying an error didn't happen - it's possible. people have been convicted with WAY less in the past though...........

posting something from the hardrock would help to that regard in regards to the charge that showed up in your name on Czasa's credit card. without that, the only people siding with you are the no name trolls that love to hate me on here and wana bang you.
you've proven that you are completely obtuse about decent human behavior and justice... I'm a newb here and have no knowledge of you as a person or of your posting history... but your posts in this thread and especially the one above prove beyond a doubt that you are, in fact, too stupid to live
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you've proven that you are completely obtuse about decent human behavior and justice... I'm a newb here and have no knowledge of you as a person or of your posting history... but your posts in this thread and especially the one above prove beyond a doubt that you are, in fact, too stupid to live
Sleazydream is the 100% proof that you can be stupid as hell and still make money on the internet. It always amazing me knowing that Sleazydream makes money seeing what an imbecile he is.

Seriously, that guy has the brain of a 16 year old. Its amazing. Every time i think ive seen it all he tops it again with a new post.

How he manages to make money is simply amazing.
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I seriously consider Sleazy one of the dumbest persons on this board. Together with Spacedog and JaneB.
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no - you are being labeled a theif till someone - and honestly at this point the onus is on you - to prove you didn't charge that card.
You apparently didn't see her copy of the bill that shows the charges, and the credit to those charges made with HER credit card.. paying the balance in full.

Why shouldn't that be proof enough?

Then Caz shows his copy, showing the identical charges but showing it was paid with his card.

Which I would think would show that the hotel screwed up...

Oh... yes I guess it's true that she could have paid for her room with her card, then thought, "Oh what the Hell.. I think I'll just pay for this room again with this nifty credit card I stole"..

Some people need to start using their head..

She didn't steal anything... The physical card is a moot issue... the number was in their system... just a big SNAFU!!
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.......... without that, the only people siding with you are the no name trolls that love to hate me on here and wana bang you.
This, among.. well.. all of your other posts in this thread, is what makes it easy for people to hate on you..

It's as though you're just wanting to chime in to keep the fire kindled..

I don't hate on people.. I don't know you or Lisa.. But I do read before I speak.. which you apparently haven't done..

The woman couldn't have made it any clearer, including her proof, that she had nothing to do with any stolen wallet..

So why you decide way late in the game to try to pull her through the mud again is beyond any reasoning..
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this tread still going

it must be the longest tread on here ever
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this tread still going

it must be the longest tread on here ever
Just waiting for Caz to post so it can get cleared up officially...
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Sleazydream is the 100% proof that you can be stupid as hell and still make money on the internet. It always amazing me knowing that Sleazydream makes money seeing what an imbecile he is.

Seriously, that guy has the brain of a 16 year old. Its amazing. Every time i think ive seen it all he tops it again with a new post.

How he manages to make money is simply amazing.
I think that's a pretty big insult to 16 year olds
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i hope she wakes up to find she has aids - the CANCEROUS kind. and then dies in a fire a little later, but then comes back to life in an amazing scientific experiment - and then dies again!

she would get what she deserves then

bump for justice and thief reincarnation double death cancer aids!

Wow now I need to die for someone else's error....as for posting the receipt....I did that and my attorney told me take it down......so I will not repost it again. The second page is floating around her on one of these ridiculous pages and that is plenty......they say the same thing except I paid the entire bill not just $300 of a $388 bill......geeze I am glad that you all have time to make me out to be a bad person but only a few have noticed that I am still here defending myself while the accusers have had no response since they know they are wrong......won't Miami be fun when you see me and walk the other direction because of embarassment.....I think I get the last laugh....I would walk up shake your hand and buy you a drink since I have nothing to hide from.....I handle myself like an adult not someone little child that gets off on making other people feel bad or look bad for that matter....never have I made a thread that was damaging or demeaning to another person....that's why most of you don't know who I am......amazing how small minded people can be when money is flashed their way......I don't care about this "bro" club or any other club for that matter.....I have my own club..."club sparxxx" and we do just fine without help from the "bros" and it will continue that way until I decide to change it.....thanks to all my affliates that have come to back me up and for those who aren't affliates yet you should check out my awesome program and make some money since it seems that's what it takes to get creditability here......
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Wow now I need to die for someone else's error....as for posting the receipt....I did that and my attorney told me take it down......so I will not repost it again. The second page is floating around her on one of these ridiculous pages and that is plenty......they say the same thing except I paid the entire bill not just $300 of a $388 bill......geeze I am glad that you all have time to make me out to be a bad person but only a few have noticed that I am still here defending myself while the accusers have had no response since they know they are wrong......won't Miami be fun when you see me and walk the other direction because of embarassment.....I think I get the last laugh....I would walk up shake your hand and buy you a drink since I have nothing to hide from.....I handle myself like an adult not someone little child that gets off on making other people feel bad or look bad for that matter....never have I made a thread that was damaging or demeaning to another person....that's why most of you don't know who I am......amazing how small minded people can be when money is flashed their way......I don't care about this "bro" club or any other club for that matter.....I have my own club..."club sparxxx" and we do just fine without help from the "bros" and it will continue that way until I decide to change it.....thanks to all my affliates that have come to back me up and for those who aren't affliates yet you should check out my awesome program and make some money since it seems that's what it takes to get creditability here......
We'll be signing up these week. We'll send ya some traffic.

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Wouldn't surprise me if some of the lynch mob joined her program with all the exposure her name's been getting here..
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You are welcome!
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Well I was bored and thought I'd scan through the thread again...
I found these comments made my MikeHawk to be quite ironic..

Starting with the thread title... a new all time low in people


So now i will tell you that Karma is going to play a huge part in this deal,...


What amazes me just how fucking stupid people are......i thought i had seen it all..

you fuck with the wrong people....watch out.

I think admitting you fucked up is your only "out"....


Then Caz says this...

Should it show something that clears Lisa I will be the first to apologize to her.
Should it show her innocence I will also call for those who may have disparraged her to apologize.

Hmm..

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You apparently didn't see her copy of the bill that shows the charges, and the credit to those charges made with HER credit card.. paying the balance in full.

Why shouldn't that be proof enough?

Then Caz shows his copy, showing the identical charges but showing it was paid with his card.

Which I would think would show that the hotel screwed up...

Oh... yes I guess it's true that she could have paid for her room with her card, then thought, "Oh what the Hell.. I think I'll just pay for this room again with this nifty credit card I stole"..

Some people need to start using their head..

She didn't steal anything... The physical card is a moot issue... the number was in their system... just a big SNAFU!!
it's possible to pay an account - then change it and pay it again with another card and have the charges changed re where they come from.


woops - i'm supposed to be dumb, sorry
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Old 07-22-2007, 11:54 AM   #938
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it's possible to pay an account - then change it and pay it again with another card and have the charges changed re where they come from.


woops - i'm supposed to be dumb, sorry
The bills - both his copies and her - don't seem to support that. And what, reversed $388 then ONLY used the "stolen" (which, might I add, I still haven't seen proof it was stolen) to cover $300 of that? C'mon.

Seriously folks, do you not get errors on your freaking hotel bills??!! $6 and hour clerks+computers=errors. Period.

I will say it again, Lisa is being a LOT nicer than I would be in this situation.,
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.....won't Miami be fun when you see me and walk the other direction because of embarassment.....I think I get the last laugh....I would walk up shake your hand and buy you a drink since I have nothing to hide from.....I handle myself like an adult not someone little child that gets off on making other people feel bad or look bad for that matter....never have I made a thread that was damaging or demeaning to another person....that's why most of you don't know who I am.......
honeslty I won't be ashamed at all. I've always been able to back up what I say, and I'm sure Czasa feels the same way.

if someone's name atached to a hotel room charge appeared on my visa untill I get proof from the hotel that it was a fuckup there's nothing to apologise for.

So if you are innocent Lisa, get the hotel to print out somethign saying so. Honestly i'm in shock this has gone as long as it has and you have nothing from them so far to that end. NO WAY if a mistake happened to me would I not get somethign like that from the hotel clearing my name.

You not having something to that end at this time actually says a lot against you and makes you look more guilty.

If the hotel does admit a mistake - then really it's the hotel that takes the blaim and I have enough balls to offer an apology and make it public as I've stated from my first post that your accusal is based on that bill with your name on it.
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it's possible to pay an account - then change it and pay it again with another card and have the charges changed re where they come from.


woops - i'm supposed to be dumb, sorry
Again Sherlock, you didn't look at the bill... If she had changed the payment source, it wouldn't still be showing as her card that paid it in full.
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Again Sherlock, you didn't look at the bill... If she had changed the payment source, it wouldn't still be showing as her card that paid it in full.
you really wana fuck lisa dont' you?
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if someone's name atached to a hotel room charge appeared on my visa untill I get proof from the hotel that it was a fuckup there's nothing to apologise for.
And therein lies the problem with this entire thread... They didn't wait to get any proof of a foul-up... They brought it to the board immediately and for a reason..

Then after the smearing began it was, "Well I'm goin to Vegas to see what the problem is.." a bit late..

They weren't concerned at the time that it might be a foul-up.. They (at least MikeHawk) wanted to cause damage to her as made obvious in his initial post.. and the thread title..

They weren't expecting Lisa to show her bill that reflected full payment on her card.. Which screams hotel foul-up...

So where is Caz now?
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you really wana fuck lisa dont' you?
Nope... I just don't want others to.. like they've been trying to do on here..

And... she promised me that if I'd watch her back she'd send me an official adult industry decoder ring, a pdf file showing the proper use of the secret handshake, and an 8x10 glossy of the baby Jebus....

How could I possibly say no to that........???
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Sleazyimbecile, me and the rest of gfy would kindly ask you to shut your illiterate mouth you dumb fuck. I would thing its impossible to say something stupid every time you open your mouth but once again you prove me wrong.

You are the biggest fucking dumb low iq imbecile i know. Unbefuckinglievable.
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having people like will76, Scootermuze, or Dirty Franck back you 100% pretty much ends someone's credibility in their career.
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having people like will76, Scootermuze, or Dirty Franck back you 100% pretty much ends someone's credibility in their career.
You have your mind made up already. There is nothing I can say or to to change that. I guess we will wait to see what my lawyer finds out. Anyway see you at internext
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having people like will76, Scootermuze, or Dirty Franck back you 100% pretty much ends someone's credibility in their career.

Wow!! That'll show us!!
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i hope she wakes up to find she has aids - the CANCEROUS kind. and then dies in a fire a little later, but then comes back to life in an amazing scientific experiment - and then dies again!

she would get what she deserves then

bump for justice and thief reincarnation double death cancer aids!

James, I really like promoting your program and would like to point out to you that you look like a JACKASS by saying something like this. IT APPEARS THAT LISA DID NOT DO IT, AT ALL. MikeHawk and Ycaza are hiding from this thread, probably because they have a real chance of being sued because of it.


I'm sure you've dealt with stupid theiving models in the past. This is not the case here. Do everyone a favor and read the entire thread before you comment.
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honeslty I won't be ashamed at all. I've always been able to back up what I say, and I'm sure Czasa feels the same way.

if someone's name atached to a hotel room charge appeared on my visa untill I get proof from the hotel that it was a fuckup there's nothing to apologise for.

So if you are innocent Lisa, get the hotel to print out somethign saying so. Honestly i'm in shock this has gone as long as it has and you have nothing from them so far to that end. NO WAY if a mistake happened to me would I not get somethign like that from the hotel clearing my name.

You not having something to that end at this time actually says a lot against you and makes you look more guilty.

If the hotel does admit a mistake - then really it's the hotel that takes the blaim and I have enough balls to offer an apology and make it public as I've stated from my first post that your accusal is based on that bill with your name on it.
you can privately think anything you want... but you're goddamned lucky that your country, the USA, and every other civilized country in the world have justice systems that do not operate as your mind does

and no matter that you have a mental short-circuit, what MikeHawk did by posting and playing with the faulty information he had was, at first glance, moronic... and then as was seen by his exposed agenda, quite calculated
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this is a long thread.
Anyway, Liza, we sign up for your program.
Needed some galleries.
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