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Connor · 07-27-2007, 11:36 AM

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I always love it when I'm looking around for stories about our company and come across something like this:

http://www.politicsnj.com/porn-lawye...xec-race-10506

Where to begin! First, Eric hasn't been a moderator on YNOT's chat boards for YEARS... that fact is so out of date it isn't even funny.

Second, we do not give out free legal advice... we do cover legal topics/news of interest to webmasters and help webmasters understand what legal issues affect their businesses. There's a big difference between that and legal advice.

Third, we haven't actively used the ynotmasters.com domain in YEARS, it just redirects to ynot.com now when you click on anything.... Jesus, you'd think these people could do just a small amount of fact checking before they posted a story like this. At least get our URL right!

Fourth, we're hardly a "one stop shop" for "hardcore pornographers" ... we're working on getting there, but I think we have a few more features to add first before we can make that claim!

But complaints about the inaccuracies aside... is this guy suggesting that legal adult-oriented businesses do not deserve competent legal counsel? It sounds to me like this guy is suggesting Eric should be punished, by losing some of his government clients, just because he also represents us adult industry undesirables. So, if Eric were representing rapists and murderers, there'd be no problem then? If not, if that too were a problem, then is this guy suggesting that any active or former defense attorneys who now work for the government should be fired?

I'm at a loss for how it makes sense to hold attorneys accountable for their clients, or to how this guy thinks his arguments will make him look better than his opponent.

And here's a clue to the reporter who wrote this story... a quick call to YNOT or even to Eric Bernstein could have set the facts straight right from the start. And it might not hurt to ask grandstanding politicians some tough questions to call them on their obvious lameness when they play these morality games.

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LAJ · 07-27-2007, 11:49 AM

Looks like AVN saw the article and decided to do some investigating... pretty interesting what they uncovered about Sheriff James McGettigan:

Atlantic County Sheriff James McGettigan has criticized political rival Dennis Levinson for hiring a county labor attorney who also serves the adult industry. The only problem: McGettigan has retained the same lawyer for five years.

McGettigan blasted Levinson in a press releases yesterday, stating that "the public has a right to know why and how the Levinson Administration hired this porn lawyer, and whether he's representing us on our dime, not pornographers."

Meanwhile, the same "porn lawyer," Eric Bernstein, has been employed as McGettigan's labor counsel since 2002. Bernstein said he personally informed McGettigan of his involvement with the adult industry years ago.

http://avnonline.com/index_cache.php...tent_ID=292819

Elli · 07-27-2007, 11:52 AM

ouch

""As of this morning there are 234 sex offenders in Atlantic County. We don’t need a representative of our government giving away free advice on how to skirt the law and access hardcore pornography,”"

So... he's suggesting that porn causes sex offenders?

Connor · 07-27-2007, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elli

ouch

""As of this morning there are 234 sex offenders in Atlantic County. We don?t need a representative of our government giving away free advice on how to skirt the law and access hardcore pornography,?"

So... he's suggesting that porn causes sex offenders?

Not to mention, I'd love to know how accessing porn is "skirting" the law... last I checked, accessing porn was legal. You'd think this guy would know that. And never mind that adult industry attorneys are not interested in providing advice on how to "access" porn... we're in this business, I think we know how to get our hands on "dirty pictures" already....

Tom_PM · 07-27-2007, 12:04 PM

Extremely lame article in every way. Is looking at hardcore porn online illegal for a sex offender? I assume so, but it could be because of the poorly written article and quote.

Or is this article relying on the myth that all porn is illegal porn?

Who knows.

Rochard · 07-27-2007, 12:16 PM

Nice article.

I love how they try to paint us all as "hardcore pornographers" as if there is something bad about it. Or perhaps the writer of the article has never had sex.

And I fail to see what sex offenders have to do with anything here. That's like saying the company that makes Bud Light makes them alcholics. Whatever.

Ironically..... I noticed Hunterdon County got mentioned. That's where I grew up.

LAJ · 07-27-2007, 12:19 PM

That "article" on politicsnj.com is lame to be sure.

Hell, there are two typos just in the first SENTENCE...

So in addition to all the factual errors Connor pointed out... I don't know who has more egg on their face... Wally Edge for writing it, or McGettigan for being a hypocrite.

And I must admit this line, "As of this morning there are 234 sex offenders in Atlantic County. We don’t need a representative of our government giving away free advice on how to skirt the law and access hardcore pornography,” ... WTF??

ronaldo · 07-27-2007, 12:35 PM

So which one of you guys in pennquaker08?

Connor · 07-27-2007, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronaldo

So which one of you guys in pennquaker08?

Haha... not I! Always the suspicious mind, Ronaldo! ;)

Rochard · 07-27-2007, 01:55 PM

I was thinking about this during my lunch today.

We are talking about attorneys here. Their job is to legally defend what is most likely criminals in court. Perhaps we should start pointing out which attorneys defended which criminals.... and then have them all fired because they have "made their money off the backs of criminals".

Idiots.

Dagwolf · 07-27-2007, 02:01 PM

I thank ignorants kin be founded innywhere.

davecummings · 07-27-2007, 02:34 PM

IMO, Eric is a top-notch attorney in every way; he also is a gentleman who genuinely cares about people.

Dave

crockett · 07-27-2007, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elli

ouch

""As of this morning there are 234 sex offenders in Atlantic County. We don?t need a representative of our government giving away free advice on how to skirt the law and access hardcore pornography,?"

So... he's suggesting that porn causes sex offenders?

They always do... just like the use of the term "peddlers" it's nothing more than an attempt to try to make themselves fell good because they think they are better than us.

Useless twats is all they are.. self proclaimed moralists should all be rounded up and dumped off in Utah then build a big fence around it. Let them peddle their values to themselves and do what ever the fuck they want to an d leave the rest of us normal people alone.

LAJ · 07-27-2007, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett

...dumped off in Utah then build a big fence around it...

Heh... George Carlin had something like that in his routine... "put em all in those square states in the middle of the US that no one cares about... Utah, Colorado, Wyoming and Kansas and fence em in and let em go at it."

He was referring to criminals... but oh well... criminals, moralists... same thing.

yahoo-xxx-girls.com · 07-27-2007, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Connor

<rant>

I always love it when I'm looking around for stories about our company and come across something like this:

http://www.politicsnj.com/porn-lawye...xec-race-10506

Where to begin! First, Eric hasn't been a moderator on YNOT's chat boards for YEARS... that fact is so out of date it isn't even funny.

Second, we do not give out free legal advice... we do cover legal topics/news of interest to webmasters and help webmasters understand what legal issues affect their businesses. There's a big difference between that and legal advice.

Third, we haven't actively used the ynotmasters.com domain in YEARS, it just redirects to ynot.com now when you click on anything.... Jesus, you'd think these people could do just a small amount of fact checking before they posted a story like this. At least get our URL right!

Fourth, we're hardly a "one stop shop" for "hardcore pornographers" ... we're working on getting there, but I think we have a few more features to add first before we can make that claim!

But complaints about the inaccuracies aside... is this guy suggesting that legal adult-oriented businesses do not deserve competent legal counsel? It sounds to me like this guy is suggesting Eric should be punished, by losing some of his government clients, just because he also represents us adult industry undesirables. So, if Eric were representing rapists and murderers, there'd be no problem then? If not, if that too were a problem, then is this guy suggesting that any active or former defense attorneys who now work for the government should be fired?

I'm at a loss for how it makes sense to hold attorneys accountable for their clients, or to how this guy thinks his arguments will make him look better than his opponent.

And here's a clue to the reporter who wrote this story... a quick call to YNOT or even to Eric Bernstein could have set the facts straight right from the start. And it might not hurt to ask grandstanding politicians some tough questions to call them on their obvious lameness when they play these morality games.

</rant>

Seems to be a relevant tag... ^^

Perhaps it will take some legal action as to make things right...

Later,

.

Dan · 07-30-2007, 07:14 AM

total smear campaign nuts

Cyndalie · 07-30-2007, 07:59 AM

Due diligence requires effort, smearing adult related companies and professionals requires none.

TheLegacy · 07-30-2007, 09:25 AM

um.. I hope I am not to blame for this as a moderator LOL

07-27-2007, 11:36 AM	#1
Connor Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,294	YNOT Makes the News! <rant> I always love it when I'm looking around for stories about our company and come across something like this: http://www.politicsnj.com/porn-lawye...xec-race-10506 Where to begin! First, Eric hasn't been a moderator on YNOT's chat boards for YEARS... that fact is so out of date it isn't even funny. Second, we do not give out free legal advice... we do cover legal topics/news of interest to webmasters and help webmasters understand what legal issues affect their businesses. There's a big difference between that and legal advice. Third, we haven't actively used the ynotmasters.com domain in YEARS, it just redirects to ynot.com now when you click on anything.... Jesus, you'd think these people could do just a small amount of fact checking before they posted a story like this. At least get our URL right! Fourth, we're hardly a "one stop shop" for "hardcore pornographers" ... we're working on getting there, but I think we have a few more features to add first before we can make that claim! But complaints about the inaccuracies aside... is this guy suggesting that legal adult-oriented businesses do not deserve competent legal counsel? It sounds to me like this guy is suggesting Eric should be punished, by losing some of his government clients, just because he also represents us adult industry undesirables. So, if Eric were representing rapists and murderers, there'd be no problem then? If not, if that too were a problem, then is this guy suggesting that any active or former defense attorneys who now work for the government should be fired? I'm at a loss for how it makes sense to hold attorneys accountable for their clients, or to how this guy thinks his arguments will make him look better than his opponent. And here's a clue to the reporter who wrote this story... a quick call to YNOT or even to Eric Bernstein could have set the facts straight right from the start. And it might not hurt to ask grandstanding politicians some tough questions to call them on their obvious lameness when they play these morality games. </rant> __________________ YNOT v5 IS NOW LIVE! \| SEEN YNOT MAIL YET?

07-27-2007, 11:49 AM	#2
LAJ Gingerific Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Austin Posts: 5,567	Looks like AVN saw the article and decided to do some investigating... pretty interesting what they uncovered about Sheriff James McGettigan: Atlantic County Sheriff James McGettigan has criticized political rival Dennis Levinson for hiring a county labor attorney who also serves the adult industry. The only problem: McGettigan has retained the same lawyer for five years. McGettigan blasted Levinson in a press releases yesterday, stating that "the public has a right to know why and how the Levinson Administration hired this porn lawyer, and whether he's representing us on our dime, not pornographers." Meanwhile, the same "porn lawyer," Eric Bernstein, has been employed as McGettigan's labor counsel since 2002. Bernstein said he personally informed McGettigan of his involvement with the adult industry years ago. http://avnonline.com/index_cache.php...tent_ID=292819 __________________ YNOT.com - The original industry resource email jay at ynot dot com or skype LAJConsulting

07-27-2007, 11:52 AM	#3
Elli Reach for those stars! Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 17,991	ouch ""As of this morning there are 234 sex offenders in Atlantic County. We don’t need a representative of our government giving away free advice on how to skirt the law and access hardcore pornography,”" So... he's suggesting that porn causes sex offenders? __________________ email: [email protected]

07-27-2007, 12:04 PM	#5
Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	Extremely lame article in every way. Is looking at hardcore porn online illegal for a sex offender? I assume so, but it could be because of the poorly written article and quote. Or is this article relying on the myth that all porn is illegal porn? Who knows. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

07-27-2007, 12:16 PM	#6
Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 73,767	Nice article. I love how they try to paint us all as "hardcore pornographers" as if there is something bad about it. Or perhaps the writer of the article has never had sex. And I fail to see what sex offenders have to do with anything here. That's like saying the company that makes Bud Light makes them alcholics. Whatever. Ironically..... I noticed Hunterdon County got mentioned. That's where I grew up. __________________ “The choice is no longer between right or left. The choice is between normal and crazy.” - Sarah Huckabee Sanders YNOT MAIL \| THE BEST ADULT MAILING SOLUTION

07-27-2007, 12:19 PM	#7
LAJ Gingerific Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Austin Posts: 5,567	That "article" on politicsnj.com is lame to be sure. Hell, there are two typos just in the first SENTENCE... So in addition to all the factual errors Connor pointed out... I don't know who has more egg on their face... Wally Edge for writing it, or McGettigan for being a hypocrite. And I must admit this line, "As of this morning there are 234 sex offenders in Atlantic County. We don’t need a representative of our government giving away free advice on how to skirt the law and access hardcore pornography,” ... WTF?? __________________ YNOT.com - The original industry resource email jay at ynot dot com or skype LAJConsulting

07-27-2007, 12:35 PM	#8
ronaldo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: ICQ#: 272000271 Posts: 5,475	So which one of you guys in pennquaker08?

07-27-2007, 01:55 PM	#10
Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 73,767	I was thinking about this during my lunch today. We are talking about attorneys here. Their job is to legally defend what is most likely criminals in court. Perhaps we should start pointing out which attorneys defended which criminals.... and then have them all fired because they have "made their money off the backs of criminals". Idiots. __________________ “The choice is no longer between right or left. The choice is between normal and crazy.” - Sarah Huckabee Sanders YNOT MAIL \| THE BEST ADULT MAILING SOLUTION

07-27-2007, 02:01 PM	#11
Dagwolf President of Canada Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Leaving Hell, Entering Limbo Posts: 23,141	I thank ignorants kin be founded innywhere. __________________ Sleep well, and dream of large women.

07-27-2007, 02:34 PM	#12
davecummings Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,922	IMO, Eric is a top-notch attorney in every way; he also is a gentleman who genuinely cares about people. Dave __________________ Dave Cummings www.davecummings.com www.davecummings.tv San Diego Email--- [email protected]

07-30-2007, 07:14 AM	#16
Dan Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 1,087	total smear campaign nuts __________________ RazorEdgeTalent.com Magazine.xxx payoutmag.com

07-30-2007, 07:59 AM	#17
Cyndalie Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Cherry Hill, NJ Posts: 3,615	Due diligence requires effort, smearing adult related companies and professionals requires none. __________________ Cyndalie Marketing Director StoriesTraffic.com

07-30-2007, 09:25 AM	#18
TheLegacy SEO Connoisseur Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Brantford, Ontario Posts: 16,839	um.. I hope I am not to blame for this as a moderator LOL __________________ SEO Connoisseur Microsoft Teams: Robert Warren SEO Telegram: @TheLegacy54 RobertWarrenSEO.com