Vista vs. Video Editing - GoFuckYourself.com

Elli · 08-20-2007, 02:45 PM

Alright, my boyfriend upgraded to Vista and for some reason we can't get it to recognize my camcorder anymore. Does anyone have any recommendations on which software works best for doing this in Vista?

Or should I just get a new computer of my own but keep it rockin the XP?

(On a side note, he's got a dual core Intel processor, 4GB of RAM, an 8800GT video card, and Vista says he's barely able to run the visual effects on the menus. WTF does it want?)

yo!! · 08-20-2007, 02:57 PM

yo!!

... boyfriends are nothing but trouble

Jace · 08-20-2007, 03:00 PM

good luck, I had about the same setup and had a bitch of a time getting vista to perform properly

check on google, you are not alone in your worries

vista is crap

Annoying · 08-20-2007, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by yo!!

yo!!

... boyfriends are nothing but trouble

Have him check to make sure that the video card drivers that he is using are up to date and that it is Windows Vista compatible. I am assuming that it is an Nvidia chipset. Check out NvidiaDOTcom and have him reinstall the latest if he has not already.

MaDalton · 08-20-2007, 03:01 PM

format c:

and then re-install XP

aico · 08-20-2007, 03:02 PM

I came in here for a good laugh, and got one, thank you...

Macs rule! (heh heh heh).

tony286 · 08-20-2007, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

format c:

and then re-install XP

bingo we have winner

KimJI · 08-20-2007, 03:03 PM

Until all the drivers are made and adjusted for Vista, you should stick to XP. And especially when yo are doing video editing

Lance69 · 08-20-2007, 03:04 PM

I know some of the NLE's out there don't even support Vista yet.
Seriously, going Vista this soon has been the worst upgrade I've ever made.

Elli · 08-20-2007, 03:19 PM

Yeah, tell me about it. He needed to go to Vista for other reasons, and it's been very stable on his PC. But yeah, there are certain drawbacks...

I'll ask him about the video card drivers. He's usually current on those, but I'll remind him.

Elli · 08-20-2007, 03:21 PM

Yeah, tell me about it. He needed to go to Vista for other reasons, and it's been very stable on his PC. But yeah, there are certain drawbacks...

I'll ask him about the video card drivers. He's usually current on those, but I'll remind him.

Violetta · 08-20-2007, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by yo!!

yo!!

... boyfriends are nothing but trouble

Jim_Gunn · 08-20-2007, 04:12 PM

Almost all of us here on GFY who work with video every day for a living say we are sticking with XP for a reason!

munki · 08-20-2007, 04:16 PM

Video drivers would be first step... camcorder drivers, and firewire card/capture card drivers second step...

You might be having problems with Aero experience on Vista, or perhaps your capture problems if your video card is low on memory... I know Vista prefers 512mb video cards and above for more advanced features.

As for software, I've been doing capture/editing with ACD and Premiere on Vista... had a few hangups running 64bit, but jumping back to 32 OS install everything has been nice and smooth for me.

Tools people... Vista may not be the most stable thing out there... but put some time learning it and solving problems (granted they shouldn't be in a final release version anyways), and its pretty solid.

Snake Doctor · 08-20-2007, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

Almost all of us here on GFY who work with video every day for a living say we are sticking with XP for a reason!

I got a new box with Vista b/c it was the only option on a new PC.

I'm afraid to format c and install XP because it may not work right, and if that's the case I'd have to pay like $150 to get a windows vista disk.
For some stupid fucking reason this computer didn't come with a disk for the OS.

munki · 08-20-2007, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2

I got a new box with Vista b/c it was the only option on a new PC.

I'm afraid to format c and install XP because it may not work right, and if that's the case I'd have to pay like $150 to get a windows vista disk.
For some stupid fucking reason this computer didn't come with a disk for the OS.

That's crap... no virtual drive with rollback install options? Check your manual... they have to include the OS one way or another, just may not be able to do a clean format and repartition.

tony286 · 08-20-2007, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2

I got a new box with Vista b/c it was the only option on a new PC.

I'm afraid to format c and install XP because it may not work right, and if that's the case I'd have to pay like $150 to get a windows vista disk.
For some stupid fucking reason this computer didn't come with a disk for the OS.

I was told by a ibm guy ,if you call microsoft and bitch they will downgrade you.

RawAlex · 08-20-2007, 04:30 PM

One of the issues you may be facing is the upgrade route rather than the new install. You have a pretty powerful PC and the machine should have no probably running Vista. But it sounds like you have some pretty major conflicts in the OS. Before you even try to get the camera to work, you should resolve those issues.

There are tools out there to see what is getting loaded, I suspect that something is getting loaded for a device, possibly old USB 1.1 that is royally screwing with your system.

Good luck.

Elli · 08-20-2007, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex

One of the issues you may be facing is the upgrade route rather than the new install. You have a pretty powerful PC and the machine should have no probably running Vista. But it sounds like you have some pretty major conflicts in the OS. Before you even try to get the camera to work, you should resolve those issues.

There are tools out there to see what is getting loaded, I suspect that something is getting loaded for a device, possibly old USB 1.1 that is royally screwing with your system.

Good luck.

Hmmm... I'll have to do some deeper diagnostic work, I see. Thanks for the tips!

Elli · 08-20-2007, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by munki

Video drivers would be first step... camcorder drivers, and firewire card/capture card drivers second step...

You might be having problems with Aero experience on Vista, or perhaps your capture problems if your video card is low on memory... I know Vista prefers 512mb video cards and above for more advanced features.

As for software, I've been doing capture/editing with ACD and Premiere on Vista... had a few hangups running 64bit, but jumping back to 32 OS install everything has been nice and smooth for me.

Tools people... Vista may not be the most stable thing out there... but put some time learning it and solving problems (granted they shouldn't be in a final release version anyways), and its pretty solid.

The video card has 512MB ram, but yeah, that's the chokepoint that Vista complains about most. I haven't played with Premiere since 2001 or so. Maybe I should give it a looksee.

Pornwolf · 08-20-2007, 04:34 PM

I'm sorry, I couldn't get past the word boyfriend.

I'm crushed.

Snake Doctor · 08-20-2007, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by munki

That's crap... no virtual drive with rollback install options? Check your manual... they have to include the OS one way or another, just may not be able to do a clean format and repartition.

There is an 8GB recovery drive labeled "D"

Maybe that's what you're talking about...I guess I need to read through the literature and see how I would go about restoring if XP didn't work.

The guy at the store said he couldn't get XP to work on a vista machine he recently bought....drivers or whatever.
Of course he could have been full of shit or clueless, wouldn't surprise me.

DutchTeenCash · 08-20-2007, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Pornwolf

I'm sorry, I couldn't get past the word boyfriend.

I'm crushed.

Tell me

Took me a year to get over that

Dvae · 08-20-2007, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Elli

Alright, my boyfriend upgraded to Vista and for some reason we can't get it to recognize my camcorder anymore. Does anyone have any recommendations on which software works best for doing this in Vista?

Or should I just get a new computer of my own but keep it rockin the XP?

(On a side note, he's got a dual core Intel processor, 4GB of RAM, an 8800GT video card, and Vista says he's barely able to run the visual effects on the menus. WTF does it want?)

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Lance69 · 08-20-2007, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Dvae

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Yup pay twice as much for the hardware and software to get a comparable PC for half that price. Thinking Different!

Elli · 08-20-2007, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dvae

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I did not say "tell me about Macs." I asked for help with my current problem. Thanks tho.

Max Cheese · 08-20-2007, 06:04 PM

Vista sucks, there is no question about it

Max Cheese · 08-20-2007, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dvae

idiot images here

dumbass

do you mac fanboys know how stupid the whole "think different" campaign is considering that ALL macs look exactly the same and all mac fanboys say the exact same thing? LOL

RedShoe · 08-20-2007, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Elli

Alright, my boyfriend upgraded to Vista and for some reason we can't get it to recognize my camcorder anymore. Does anyone have any recommendations on which software works best for doing this in Vista?

Or should I just get a new computer of my own but keep it rockin the XP?

(On a side note, he's got a dual core Intel processor, 4GB of RAM, an 8800GT video card, and Vista says he's barely able to run the visual effects on the menus. WTF does it want?)

The power of your machine can have a negative effect as well. Right now you're driving a Ferrari and you're trying to drive it on the 405 fwy at rush hour, dig?

You're not going to be able to run at full speed because the program isn't effeceint at that speed. You need to find out what the most ideal machine for your video editing software is. Believe it or not, most video editing software runs better on slower machines.

Just because you have a dual or quad core doesn't always mean it will be better for a program. It just means you'll be able to do a lot of shit at once, like running multiple programs and multiple processes. It doesn't mean that all those programs will be running better, it just means they'll be running.

Jace · 08-20-2007, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RedShoe

Just because you have a dual or quad core doesn't always mean it will be better for a program. It just means you'll be able to do a lot of shit at once, like running multiple programs and multiple processes. It doesn't mean that all those programs will be running better, it just means they'll be running.

not to mention there are even still some pretty popular encoding apps that don't even support or make full use of dual and quad cores yet....so sad

08-20-2007, 02:45 PM	#1
Elli Reach for those stars! Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 17,991	Vista vs. Video Editing Alright, my boyfriend upgraded to Vista and for some reason we can't get it to recognize my camcorder anymore. Does anyone have any recommendations on which software works best for doing this in Vista? Or should I just get a new computer of my own but keep it rockin the XP? (On a side note, he's got a dual core Intel processor, 4GB of RAM, an 8800GT video card, and Vista says he's barely able to run the visual effects on the menus. WTF does it want?) __________________ email: [email protected]

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08-20-2007, 03:19 PM	#10
Elli Reach for those stars! Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 17,991	Yeah, tell me about it. He needed to go to Vista for other reasons, and it's been very stable on his PC. But yeah, there are certain drawbacks... I'll ask him about the video card drivers. He's usually current on those, but I'll remind him. __________________ email: [email protected]

08-20-2007, 03:21 PM	#11
Elli Reach for those stars! Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 17,991	Yeah, tell me about it. He needed to go to Vista for other reasons, and it's been very stable on his PC. But yeah, there are certain drawbacks... I'll ask him about the video card drivers. He's usually current on those, but I'll remind him. __________________ email: [email protected]

08-20-2007, 04:12 PM	#13
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08-20-2007, 04:16 PM	#14
munki Do Fun Shit. Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OC Posts: 13,393	Video drivers would be first step... camcorder drivers, and firewire card/capture card drivers second step... You might be having problems with Aero experience on Vista, or perhaps your capture problems if your video card is low on memory... I know Vista prefers 512mb video cards and above for more advanced features. As for software, I've been doing capture/editing with ACD and Premiere on Vista... had a few hangups running 64bit, but jumping back to 32 OS install everything has been nice and smooth for me. Tools people... Vista may not be the most stable thing out there... but put some time learning it and solving problems (granted they shouldn't be in a final release version anyways), and its pretty solid. __________________ “I have the simplest tastes. I am always satisfied with the best.” -Oscar Wilde

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RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	One of the issues you may be facing is the upgrade route rather than the new install. You have a pretty powerful PC and the machine should have no probably running Vista. But it sounds like you have some pretty major conflicts in the OS. Before you even try to get the camera to work, you should resolve those issues. There are tools out there to see what is getting loaded, I suspect that something is getting loaded for a device, possibly old USB 1.1 that is royally screwing with your system. Good luck.

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Max Cheese Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Middle of no where Posts: 52	Vista sucks, there is no question about it