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drama llama?

CuriousToyBoy

Er, OK.

8chars

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whats that metal thing?

munki

I'm not quite sure what to do with all that...

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subtle much?

Deej

What, cant you read, mate?

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can opener . . . as in " . . . of worms" I would suspect.

KimJI

The ship went down and someone get shafted. As a result they are about to take the lid of a can of worms. Unless they receive some money to settle the whole thing

Be it fake or real drama, I don't know. But its drama and GFY feeds on it

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jimthefiend

Whatever man.


I'm not the one still trying to get paid. You can consider my assistance and communication on that issue at an end.

Chio

HAHA Deej! This thread wins most creative drama thread of the year award.

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Deej

all wrong... all wrong... Im an honest person...

I would never extort.

I just want due.







for the record, I never read the articles in playboy

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KimJI

I didnt mean "extort". I ment "get payed what was owed"
That is how I intrepid it

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seeric

you did a design job and didn't get paid?

Deej

Jim, this has nothign to do with any of your past jobs. This is you n me, when you came to me...

I see you are paying other people... ive been waiting longer, Im in line first..

its pittance, but its the principle of it...


as for what you are referring to, That was resolved and I believe I know the truth, deducted from talking to both sides. and what YOu told me yourself is what lead to my decision on that ...

but thats another story... thats business and will be handled like it is


this here is dumb... obviously... entertainment if you will... see the people gather?

you try and flame me whenever I ask, then we held honest to god business and i thought you were a decent guy... some commradery even... but then i believe you lied to me and i keep hearing my story i have with you repeated by others in their own instances, ....


ive waited longer for my case of beer

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Deej

Im a webmaster/designer, that happens in my line, but that has nothing to do with this issue..

this is purely based on a loan

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Swish

I was thinking it meant "tool".

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jimthefiend

The only reason you got paid for that "work" was so you'd do this. I find this amusing considering yesterday you were whining to me about how you hadnt recieved a dime yet.







What happened was this: Leslie told me to hire and supervise a designer to build all the Digital Playground ad tools since she had all our in house guys busy doing crap menus and such for internext. Typical dumbass Leslie move.

Anyway...

I looked at Deej's portfolio and saw a couple of things I liked and passed his info along to Leslie for approval. She said go for it so I did.

Over the next week Deej delivered 2 or 3 substandard banners and a movie gallery template that did not meet ANYONES approval.

Leslie quite clearly stated the work was unacceptable and that I needed to find someone else. I did. I went to bat for you r.e. the time you'd spent and you're lucky I even asked for the invoice for the "work" you'd done to that point.

My last communication from her about this issue and about you consisted of her stating in no uncertain terms that you sucked and were getting shit. Although I agreed on the you sucking donkey ass part, a deal is a deal so I argued it and finally she agreed to pay for the crap you'd done.

I have logs on all this. So be be very careful cunt.

I tried to do you a favor and this is the shit you pull in return. Your work IS crap actually and you can go to hell.

Dude, YESTERDAY afternoon you contacted me asking where your money was. YESTERDAY afternoon you told me youd recieved no confirmation at all that DCM was even aware of the invoice.

You're cracking me up.

_Richard_

well, regardless of anything

this has to be the most creative way to call someone out

Deej

Well, being that i just deleted my 13 paragraph reply to jim ill have to take another few moments to retype....


in notepad

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hahaha sucks to be you!

Deej

Jim, how did I know that you would jump to talk shit about our actual business dealings.

As Ive stated this has nothing to do with your jobs in the past. This has to do with you coming to me asking for money. Over a year ago.

Why you gotta come and start flaming my skills and your former employer?

Ive never exclaimed myself as a pimp ass designer. I do good amateur design. design is just a side of what I do. I was even some what flattered when you approached me to design for digital playground. I even liked you, you werent the same as on gfy. We even committed some commradery...

Do you want me to dig up all my work I did, the conversations we had reguarding business, the emails and times.

Yesterday when I contacted you I was not whining about getting paid, infact i had already talked to Leslie and straightened it out. Days before. She toild me you never gave her an invoice. I contacted you yesterday to see if you were going to lie to me and to seal some answers.

want me to dig it all up and my conclusion?

just a teaser... yesterday you told me you delivered my invoice by email on the 13th, I didnt even email it to you unmtil the 15th

reguardless of what you say... I was told you never delivered an invoice. You DID go and get another designer. I think the best word that describes your actions you took with me was Dissappear... yea... and reguardless of wether by design was sufficient, thats not business... ( and you want another job?)

Just so you know. After I talked to Leslie, she has accepted my work and Im being paid.




If you want me to... Ill dig all that shit up... Fool... yours verbal onslaught on my work and your former employer wont fly here



This is about you asking me for 40 dollars over a year ago.. for what, I dont know. It didnt matter, I helped you because you asked for it...

I got excuses like "ill hit you with epass on monday, waiting on 3k from fleshlight"

how many other people know this same story? Huh, Jim?

Shall i call some people out? Ill go and ask them if they want to be involved, but ill tell you now, I know of atleast 5 people that have the same exact story...



Who did you pay 6.50 to today, dickhead?

6.50?






this one describes a lot,

hot air

wind bag

burning up

going down




flame on



Ive waited longer, and I believe you lied to me.



I just need a case of busch, jim...

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Man! It's a good thing you didn't write it all with images. Although that would have been badass.

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Leslie is a fucking liar and so are you.

Deej

I am only here to defend me and mine...

and i have not lied here...

if youd like... Ill dig up my epass info...

all emails... icqs... work...

shall I?

Jim just dont be a tough guy.. it wont fly dude...I was a nice guy.....I have not lied......We can hug if youd like... nerf bats?

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Deej

I liked you Jim... seriously...i still think youre a nice guy .... but you lied to me... If you say i never loaned you 40 dollars in the past, then you sir, are the liar

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jimthefiend

Deej you never emailed an invoice at ALL. You sent me a link lol. You're pathetic, I mean really.

I did you a favor and you sucked.

I found another designer BECAUSE you sucked and thats that.

Leslie is only paying you because she can't handle one more ounce of drama and that is a FACT.

You're a punk, and you got bought off. Cheap.






Nothing more to say to you.

jimthefiend

PS: I shoulda just hired Headless. At least he can make a banner.

dropped9

Do you owe him money?

jimthefiend

No. Categorically NO. I owe Franck 18 bucks. lolol

Deej

epass dosnt keep records past a year in the interface apparently...

Im digging up my own records... not making them as im sur eyou will claim when they show...

since you want to lie ill do it... with the whole design thing... I wasnt possitive that you lied, I just believe you lied. NOw your straight out lying...

I have both the email i sent you with invoice and work... (your stories are getting mixed)

and you DID borrow money from me by epass over a year ago...



youre a bitch jim... this was fun, now you are straight out lying...

Ill post my work too... I know its not pimp as shit but it IS good and it WOULD convert

if i post it and they have a problem with me showing people, they can shove their money... Faggot liar

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dropped9

call them and talk to one of their lackys and see if they can email you the record....

jimthefiend

You're a liar, a moron, a shitty designer and a douche. Post your shit and then explain on what fucking planet you expected to be paid 1300 bucks for that shit level of work.


I'm done with this for now, I have Xboxing to do.

CE_Rashaan

All this for Forty$$$. I got shafted I wasted more then $40 worth of my time reading this...

On another note Jim what's your gamer tag

add me so you can get powned

zzMaV3ricKzz

Deej

like i said, it was fun, and poking at jim, now he lying, so im going to show the proof I have, I owuld never make shit up for the sake of my own entertainment...

Like Jim...


ill shit on jims 40 and post pictures... cept he will never pay


principle

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jimthefiend

No shit.



Anyway, tag is: jimthefiend001

Add me, it'll take me two hours to type in your tag dude with all that case shit lol.

I'm all about GRAW2.










PS: Fuck you again Deej. I was nice to you.

Deej

im having bad luck here... i had 32 paragraphs this time with pics and proof and my fuckin power went out... im baring the thunderstorm to get this shit out...

i had it on notepad too but it wasnt saved all the way... i got half...

so ill be back with the proof jim... its all here

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running to the store. anyone need tampons?

Deej

lie #1 Jim owes me money from a loan and he states here in public that i never loaned him money.



I gave you money because you came to ME, asking for it. For what I dont know. Dosnt matter




Lie#2 Jim states that he never sent an invoice and better yet that i never gave him one.

This is how the story goes...

Jim contacted me for design work on a few sites. Jim asked for low pricing due to bulk and ongoing work.

6 different sites

68 Banners
12 HPA
12 FPA
9 pic galleries
8 movie galleries

109 pieces total

I quoted him 1350, less than 13 a piece, very competitive if you ask me.

I sent in some banners, they were not sufficient.









They didnt like these, so I asked to trya nother site.



I was told this one they liked due to contrasting colors.

Then I made a gallery.



I was told this was no good either. After i modified it a couple times to see if they would like it then. nope.

Then Jim and I made a decision to make an FPA and if they dont like it then we will part ways, if they like it then we move on.




I never got an opinion on this one, this is where Jim dissappeared. I left "hey yous" and shit on his ICQ, his reply was. "most likely wont get a reply til after the show" this was during internext.

Never heard form Jim again.

I notcied he had a new sig and new design. So i confronted jim, he said they had decided to drop my order and that its out of his hands. He said he would give my invoice to the heads. This was on Jims last day i believe... the 15th, wednesday...

heres the proof of Jim being a liar. To us all.





Heres is our conversation yesterday where i was whining



slightly edited to eliminate potentially libelous statements that are irrelevant to this incident.
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Date and Time: 08/28/2007 00:33 AM
You have sent a message to jimthefiend
yo
Date and Time: 08/28/2007 08:46 AM
You have received a message from jimthefiend
sup
Date and Time: 08/28/2007 09:13 AM
You have sent a message to jimthefiend
did you ever send that invoice through, I never got a confirmation...
Date and Time: 08/28/2007 09:13 AM
You have sent a message to jimthefiend
nor a check
Date and Time: 08/28/2007 09:14 AM
You have received a message from jimthefiend
of course i did
Date and Time: 08/28/2007 09:14 AM
You have sent a message to jimthefiend
youre the MAN jim...
Date and Time: 08/28/2007 09:15 AM
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dud i wouldnt coutn on her paying


-edit- this is where jim talks about his dealings with his prior employer -edit-



Date and Time: 08/28/2007 04:35 PM
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http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=764242
Date and Time: 08/28/2007 04:35 PM
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drammmmmaaaa
Date and Time: 08/28/2007 04:45 PM
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Well Jim, im going to be honest with you.

i dont know who to believe or trust in this matter.

youre both fishy..

I contacted leslie right after i sent you the invoice...

is day after the weekend was over.

she told me you never sent her an invoice. She told me that before or directly after internext you canceled the order with her and said I dissappeared...

heres where i dont throw you out the window though.

she hasnt paid me yet afetr recieving the invoice from me. -edit- Here is where I say something reguarding a conversation between me and leslie. I admit it, she knows it for she has seen this script -edit-


so i sit here weighting each side... as where you have an unstable rep, yet you seem truly like a nice guy... and I have her, with nothing but golden reps from people I ask, yet..... im not paid....


im gonna sit here and watch it all pan out...


If you truly didnt send her an invoice im very dissappointed in you. I may even cry.


but theres nothing to say she is/isnt lying...

all i do know is I worked a deal for my time and effort with a company, and I havent been paid.
Date and Time: 08/28/2007 04:46 PM
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gimme a sec
Date and Time: 08/28/2007 04:47 PM
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ill find it
Date and Time: 08/28/2007 04:50 PM
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setn on the 13th according to my records, the first one was sent weeks before
Date and Time: 08/28/2007 04:51 PM
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let me ask you this
Date and Time: 08/28/2007 04:51 PM
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why WOULDNT i send it?
Date and Time: 08/28/2007 04:51 PM
You have sent a message to jimthefiend
you sent my invoice to her on the 13th?
Date and Time: 08/28/2007 04:51 PM
You have sent a message to jimthefiend
by email?
Date and Time: 08/28/2007 04:53 PM
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im lookimng for the actual email
Date and Time: 08/28/2007 04:53 PM
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i kept a DB with her on everythign i did

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take in mind, jim never confirmed to me that he sent it by email on the 13th... but this is all the info on the subject i got from him.

Notice on my invoice, it says 14th. i sent it to him on the 15th.

i have doctored nothing to my advantage. Fuck you Jim, Youre the liar.

I upped the price on the individual pricing on my final job since the bulk order was not followed through on. Leslie has agreed to pay me. She told me that you never gave her an invoice, that you said I left the deal. She also told me they WILL be using my material.


Jim... youre a liar dude.

you owe me money.



This thread had nothing to do with my design job that you brokered. Not until you opened your flaming ass mouth.

Being a tough guy will get you no where man. SKills will...

Now shut the fuck up and learn some business ethics you liar.



Youre paying other people. Other people that were kind enough to loan you money when you asked.

mind you it was only $6.50

but that could have been MY beer money

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Joesho

Sonic burgers rock...... I love those fuckers....

Next time I am in Oregon, dinner on me Deej sound good?

can you make it up to portland if I fly in ?

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Deej

I may be able to Joe. depends on the time. I know this next month i will be kept at home since the girlfriend is going to LA for a couple weeks.

A burger on you anytime, Joe

That was a fun night. and my poor non industry friend. He was astonished by you and jack!

and the TITTY RV!!!!!

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Deej

I notice your sig is empty, jim.

isnt that breaking a "long term" commitment you made for another minor fee?

Dont tell me that never happened before either.

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tony286

The importance of getting contract when doing any type of work so there is no bullshit.

jimthefiend

Deej, as I've said before is a moron. If you carefully read the logs he's posted my point is proven. Really nothing more to be said on the issue.

I do love how Leslie has went from calling his work crap, to tellign Deej she'll use it literally overnight. That cracks me up on a couple of levels.

Bedtime though.

Deej

again, the original point to this thread is Jim owing me loaned money. Jim has nothing to do with DCM or my dealings with them any longer.

Anything pertaining to our design business in this thread is only showing my side and outing Jim as a liar. Its about time someone tells their story.

Multiple people have told me the story of Jim asking for minor amount of money, sometimes paying back, sometimes not. But always flaming the loaner asking for their money back, telling them "its such trivial amounts of money to be bitching about" and making statements of how lame and pussy of them to be giving him shit over.

I never got that far, I never gave him shit about it... 40 bucks... but now he lies... and tries to tarnish my word.




Fuck you Jim.

I shake hands with these people at shows. I dont have shit to lie about. I have a reputation to uphold. First comes honesty. Try it douche bag.

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she may not use it. and ill bet she did say it was crap back then. she may have said she was going to pay me because thats how business is done... i gave my time. notice the bulk order is not being followed through on.

they can shit can it and ill burn the money... but as anyone can see... that works is worth more than 13 dollars each.... and its not as crappy as you try and say

point being... you ARE a liar...

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Deej you are lying. I know it, you know it and that's enough. The timing of this is transparent and really fucking obvious. I don't owe you shit and this is boring.

You can rant all night, knock yourself out.

Deej

Im lying? about wich part, point it out?

the part where you asked me for 40 dollars?

or the part about the invoice?

I cant guranteee that you did or did not send the invoice... thats only known truly by you and her.

You DID borrow money from me

and now you claim you did not.

I GAVE.... to you... i barely even asked for it back... until now....

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Deej

oh but wait. i forgot... jim, you state here that i never even sent you an invoice?


I have my story straight... yours is the one that veers off track a little...

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bump for truth...

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