GET INTO "TV On PC" Market !!

[rml1608]

I am on a cash crunch here.

I have a TV On PC Program my developer has been working 5-6 weeks on. I will admit the T.V. station DB is not real strong right now, it is what I plan on working on this coming week. My plan will be eventually to charge $100 a month for updates to maintain the databases when I am selling this software eventually.

Unlike other T.V. on PC programs this program can actually RECORD the 'tv on pc' youare watching or the 'song you are listening to' on to your hard drive. Your will have a section at the bottom of the program that allows you to start and stop recording the program automatically.

Since I am in a cash crunch - I need a few more hundred to get this program finished up 100% to my satisfaction. You will immediately get the working version that records instantly as well as the fully running, stabilized, bug free Version 1.0 when released (within 10-14 days).

Your Cost ? $350.00

You can't find a simpler solution to get into this market if you programmed it yourself - As far as my reputation goes if you need references I can provide. I do need to make a single sale as soon as possible. When this program is stabilized and all of the features I plan having in Version 1.0 are ready it wil be selling for no less than $1,500.00 and fully featured most likely $1,995.00 -$2,000.00

Great chance to catch someone who is cash poor at the right time to make a great investment you simply can't lose on. Please hit me up on ICQ if interested ...

ICQ # 253483920

[AGS-17]

373741804 mail [email protected] conTACT

[sortie]

Well, I don't know what it does based on your post. I have no clue about TV PC. Why would I want this.

[ProjectNaked]

do you have a demo available?

[rml1608]

Demo is Available, Please contact me via ICQ and I will provide the current Beta Version - The funds are needed to finish production so it will have a few minor bugs here and there, as well as the station list not being 100% up to par yet. Both will be provided free of charge within the time frame stated above if you purchase now though.

As far as "What Is TV On PC"

It is a pretty popular new market where businesses sell copies of the software for anywhere from $9.95 (super generic versions) to $60 + for premium versions with good channel selections and interfaces. Your money would be made back in 7 sales most likely. My best guess is a CPA of roughl $20 worst case scenario ...

[rml1608]

P.S. If you have been considering this market for some time but have special requests to make your program unique in some way - this is your perfect opportunity. My programmer can do absolutely anything you want done, such as adding the recording feature which was what I wanted to use to make my program stick out from the crowd. There are obviously 100's of other features you could add to make your version unique.

If you want to help me in my situation I will help you in your's. Any extra plug-in/add-ons will be done at labor rates that are so low it will make you sick. Some of the extra features I have planned for Version 2.0 of this thing will blow your mind when you see it, seriously ... some really cool features that I don't even want to talk about yet because I don't want you to use them as your ideas to make your version fresh and unique

If your Add-On takes 40 hours of work in Delphi/VB programing expect an additional cost of $125.00 for that work. That's how cheaply the additional work could be done. It would however have to wait until my V 1.0 release was fully complete (and in your hands after your purchase as well obviously) until he could start work on that though.

[After Shock Media]

Wouldnt the reverse make more sense?

Small media server, wireless keyboard, and the use of the families giant plasma or lcd tv?

[sortie]

Originally Posted by rml1608

It is a pretty popular new market where businesses sell copies of the software for anywhere from $9.95 (super generic versions) to $60 + for premium versions with good channel selections and interfaces. Your money would be made back in 7 sales most likely. My best guess is a CPA of roughl $20 worst case scenario ...

Never mind, you need a sales rep.
I don't know if I'm buying something for $350 or selling something for $9
or even WTF either does.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

HUh?

I dont get it...

PC's can record TV...
Just need the right kinda video card.

[rml1608]

Originally Posted by sortie

Never mind, you need a sales rep.
I don't know if I'm buying something for $350 or selling something for $9
or even WTF either does.

Sortie, I am more or less looking for people who already had a slight interest in the market so I didn't have to explain all of this. It's quite simple if you want me to paint it out for you though.

You would be buying software you would sell to your surfers at a price you choose. Some people sell via Dutch Auction on E-Bay at $9.95 per copy and from what I see average about 20 sales a week or so ...

If you Google "Tv On PC" or anything along those lines you will see the type of sites selling this software for $40.00 + They advertise the fact that you could watch Bloomberg, CNN, they claim HBO, Cinemax, etc (still yet to really see that myself), but the bottom line is they are selling you the ability to watch thousands of channels from your P.C. without any monthly charges (just a one time fee). Once you buy the program you can listen to 1,000's of radio stations as well on 99% of the programs or you can watch television from "90 + different countries" although my current DB is only at about 45 or so right now.

After Shock, Yeah ... That's Very True .. The Point of this SW is you are trying to make people believe they can use Windows Media Center, buy your software, watch the same channels hey have, and run it through their broadband connection for free and kill the cable costs :o) In actuality we all know it isn't that simple but ...

There are thousands of (strike that, MILLIONS OF) free porn sites out there and for some odd reason people keep paying for it ever day to the tune of billions of dollars per year.

Fact is, in the future, more and more independant directors will be airing their stuff through the internet for free and collecting advertising revenues (or selling their episodes/movies through ITunes and other similar services). Having one single program you click on and loads up every genre for you, updates new stations, e-mails you with new station releases, so on .. so on .. Is not only convenient and kind of cool - But also has a ton of ways to be monetized besides the initial upsell (such as future PPV via internet events).

Video on the internet is in it's infancy still - There will be a ton of venues, You Tube was the first big one. Programs like the ones I am talking about here have been around for over a year and the same ones still show up on Google Ad Words, MSN, and Yahoo a year later still paying to run their ads ... not to mention many game sites as well as quite a few other relatively cost effective sources of advertising. Doesn't take a genius to realize that a company running the same ad campaigns and re-skinning their products under different names has *something profitable* up their sleeves

[rml1608]

Originally Posted by AlienQ

HUh?

I dont get it...

PC's can record TV...
Just need the right kinda video card.

http://www.captainsex.com/tvonpc.exe

There are certain channels of T.V. they can watch through the software .. There are also certain radio stations (Rest Assured my current D.B. is much larger than what you see - and my release DB will be at least double that).

Now when the surfer finds the T.V. station in the SW they like doing some hot bikin show, or some rad extreme sports, or whatever they are into .. They will be able to click record inside the SW interface and start to record it. They can then post the videos on You Tube, to friends, archive 'em, put 'em on their Video IPOD, whatever they want to do.

Then can also listen to radio stations from all over the world, Hell in Brazil .... Maxico .. Places I will never visit in my life. Some people dig different tunes. If they do and they hear a song they like while using the SW they can quickly click the Record button and .. boom ... They have a copy of the song on their hard drive. By version 2.0 their will be a 5-15 minute buffer so they can rewind and fast forward if they miss the first part of a song/tv show/ whatever and want to record it ... pause it to grab a soda ... same thing as a DVR basically ...

You're right the stuff is out there - but this is packaged up all in one so you don't have to run 2 or 3 different programs at the same time. It will also be (when V 1.0 is released) minimizable to your system tray instead of your task bar so it isn't taking up annoying space like ITunes etc do when they are playing.

Other features like searching for videos on You Tube and making PLay Lists will be on the *To Do* list very soon as well.. Being able to make copies of that and toss 'em on your IPOD would be pretty coool - wouldn't it ? These are just a few of the things people will be able to do with this SW .. It's selling without these features right now with profits being made - improving the product and releasing it can only lead to more profits ;)

[Dvae]

Why would I not just buy AppleTV for $300?
And it works on my Mac.

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPL.../ipod/apple_tv

[rml1608]

Originally Posted by Dvae

Why would I not just buy AppleTV for $300?
And it works on my Mac.

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPL.../ipod/apple_tv

Dave, sure if you want to buy it for Personal Use

The $350 Gives you the ability to SELL this software and make money by selling it. You can not sell the rights to other webmasters to sell it (you can offer commission on their sales naturally). The whole point behind the investment of $350 would be you then have a new site where you can sale this at $10 - $50 a pop to surfers to make your money back, and eventually be turning nothing but profit. As I said the CPA for a $50 sale is roughly in the $20 area .... For the $9.95 area, well E-Bay's Dutch Auction Fees aren't to high and you would be in profit range inside a month, do it for a year and you make 1200% ... Keep going, you get the point

Gotta Go, Have To Be At Work In 3 Hours, Need Some Sleep .....

[Oracle Porn]

Originally Posted by Dvae

Why would I not just buy AppleTV for $300?
And it works on my Mac.

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPL.../ipod/apple_tv

you idiot it looks like you have no fucking idea what he is talking about

he is making a software for your desktop that show live streams from many chanels around the world...the live streams are free but he got a little collection he gathered and put it all in a little software that can record the live streams on your pc... hired a philipine programmer, told him what to do, paid minimum wage and got it done...almost, it looks like he is out $350.

Anyone it doesn't look like he did any research on the market and isn't really serious imho, even his stream list isn't even big..the stream list is the whole idea of this thing, you want to have a huge stream list to stand above the rest.....

[rml1608]

Originally Posted by Oracle Porn

you idiot it looks like you have no fucking idea what he is talking about

he is making a software for your desktop that show live streams from many chanels around the world...the live streams are free but he got a little collection he gathered and put it all in a little software that can record the live streams on your pc... hired a philipine programmer, told him what to do, paid minimum wage and got it done...almost, it looks like he is out $350.

Anyone it doesn't look like he did any research on the market and isn't really serious imho, even his stream list isn't even big..the stream list is the whole idea of this thing, you want to have a huge stream list to stand above the rest.....

Oracle, well put -and you seem well informed as well.

Rest assured Ihave put A LOT of time into researching this :o)

At the moment the demo has very little - why would I give away the entire barn, yaknow :o) If peoplelike toconcept etc they will get intouch with me. At the moment there are well over 3,000 different channels that willl be integrted into this system - rest assured.

However, I would *LIKE TO BE* the first to go live with 5,000 channels. Why is why , if anyone has databases I would be interestedin talking with them naturally, I also need a portion of the $350.00 besides programmming costs.

Ohhhhhh, btw - He isn't Phillipino. But youhave the sort of idea in a sense. Although Version 1.0 is going to be released with a traditional system and a hell of a layout for marketing it (not your normal simply refer us webmasters and we will giveyou 60% etc).

Also Version 2.0 - or the different program we end up putting togehter under an entirely different name while still improving on this program is in and of itself going to have a massive market that IF MARKETED PROPERLY and at the right PRICING POINTS has some truly amazing potential. I have already run it by a group of avid net addicts that are totally STOKED about getting their own copy and SWEAR UP & DOWN that they could get a lot of sales virally. How many is a lot, I dunno ? But I like it's launch being viral and seeing what happens.

It appears I may POSSIBLY end up needing $500 - $650 when all is said and done, however I could either do this through two investors OR one investor with certain stipulations on their end ...

And let's be honest folks, even $1,000 for a real business opportunity where someone HAS put in months upon months of market research and finding where programs lack/excel - so on ... Is an extremely reasonable entry point. Granted it isn't a heavy ownership interest at all, but again I am ALWAYS open to business plan diversifications as well as letting theperson loaning the money authorize and have explaned why EVERY PENNY of the money is spent on certain expenditures. If they disagree and see a better way, we talk about it ... take a step back, relax, and try to look at it from a fresh angle and go from there until hopefully both of us are appeased. I would expect them to take me word on certain decisions where itis realy acoin flip in their heads as long as I properly justify the expense.

BTW, WE are talking about the hugest expense in ANY one area being a total of $300 ... And no, this isn't the only thing I am working on for those old timers that know my tendancies. I am also working a full time 9-5 job at a printing compay helping them diversify product offerings, getting their books in order, doing cost/benefit analysis for which products we should introduce into our next lineup, digging the comapny outof debt with the same cash flow they currently have, bringing them a web precense, along with being the in between guy for the GM and President/CEO. My new official title is V.P./CFO. I haven't decided which to go with yet. COO might be appropriate as well.

Bottom line, I'm back out in the real world, working a real job, every single day. And getting back into real world business, not JUST internet businesses (world of difference).

Anyhoo, anyone interested - please shout with any questions.

[rml1608]

BUMP !! Still looking for anyone interested. There are a variety of options here on ways we could work together if yo are interested... I am open to any other ideas you have in mind as well ... So, if slightly interested but there are hang ups drop me a line

[Violetta]

tv on the pc is the future... no doubt!

[Sosa]

there is def money in this market. I pushed a few programs with it and did farely well with some generic traffic.

[RawAlex]

I am trying to figure out the following:

Where do you get the content from

Who is paying for the bandwidth

What is the business model to turn this from content into money?

[SykkBoy]

whoa, is this the same Ryan Lanane from many years ago that ran a tranny program (that I can't for the life of me remember the name of anymore)?

[sextoyking]

Originally Posted by SykkBoy2

whoa, is this the same Ryan Lanane from many years ago that ran a tranny program (that I can't for the life of me remember the name of anymore)?

yep I think so. was on netpond, oprano, etc.

[SykkBoy]

Originally Posted by sextoyking

yep I think so. was on netpond, oprano, etc.

thought so

one of my first sponsor checks
it was a handwritten check....it cashed, so was fine with me...

[rml1608]

Alex, Todd, Lance, how's it going guys ?

Definitely money in this market Sosa ;) Just like anything just have to push it right !!

The bottom line on monetization is selling the downloadable program to surfers who in turn get access to "thousands of channels of video and audio" for $10, $20, $30, $40, $50, even up to $60 I have seen with no monthly recurring fees. Some of the business models I will be settings up will be testing recurring fees for the first time ever when I release version 2.0 of this. There will be good reason for it though ;)

[Gerco]

Ok, Im missing something too....

This program sounds a lot like Miro. (Which I actually currently use) Whcih is free. It dounloads CNN, NBC, FOX, ABC and a couple thousand other channels automatically for me it also works with MythTV... Also free which if I wanted to I could setup as a PC based DVR. Miro also allows me to database and create playlists of all my recorded media and can be fully controlled via a remote (I use ATI allinwonder II) Just like using a regualar Tv. I pull in the local stations (for free) so Im not missing anything there. I have totally given up Dish and Cable and run this from a Mac and a Lacie Terebyte drive attacted to my bigscreen. PLUS all meda is fully centralized and can be watched from any other PC in my house. Not seeing what your program adds to this? There are a TON of other programs that are also out there... take Centerstage for example. I could keep naming more and more but you get where I'm going.

[ztik]

I sell a shitload of pc to tv subscriptions.

To bad I would have to create who scripts around it I would definately throw down on your project.

[rml1608]

Z - Check your ICQ, Let's Talk ...

There will always be some service for free you can pay and get 5% of

It's all in the marketing, I have no brilliant answer for you there .. Except I intend on being the best I can in what I am doing here

I could spin it, but why waste my time lying when you have to spin the spin - Before you know it your shitting out in every which direction trying to keep things straight. If any of the old timers who are still doing well, branched out into non adult, and do well there as well want to talk on the phone or through IM some time LMK ... I'm always game just to catch up with anyone from when I had my shit together 90% ;)

[mikesouth]

you wanna make money youd do it the other way around

the future is using your pc with your HD TV as a media server

download HD from the net burn it to dvd, play it or both

wireless keyboard and mouse

theres yer turnkey system

[peterk]

Interesting