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Klen · 10-06-2007, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy

So basically this is JUST LIKE epass, but with the ability to sell things like paypal.?????

Looks like alternative to ccbill and epassporte.

Brujah · 10-06-2007, 08:21 AM

Good luck Chio. Looks interesting for sure.

TheMisses · 10-06-2007, 08:23 AM

Jayman Cash Is interested in bata testing.....I would like a rep to get intouch with me ICQ 341601628 my name is Tracy

I have created an account but when I go to support it loggs me out?
(You do not have access to the page you requested, or you have timed out due to inactivity.

Please login to access the site)

I get that message.

My questions are on the side of the ease in paying affiliates with batch payments

I would love to know more

Jace · 10-06-2007, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy

So basically this is JUST LIKE epass, but with the ability to sell things like paypal.?????

I would say it is going to be a nice combination of paypal/epass/epoch/ccbill, all in one

and if I know Chio, he will go out of his way to make sure everyone is happy through the entire process, he loves to get shit right, unlike some of the other payment systems out there

pornguy · 10-06-2007, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace

I would say it is going to be a nice combination of paypal/epass/epoch/ccbill, all in one

and if I know Chio, he will go out of his way to make sure everyone is happy through the entire process, he loves to get shit right, unlike some of the other payment systems out there

Agreed.

Look out Epass.

Theres a New Sheriff in town!

Boobs · 10-06-2007, 09:05 AM

looks good chio

dready · 10-06-2007, 09:15 AM

If I was ePass, I'd be very worried. Of course, they do have all their gambling sites, lol.

Chio · 10-06-2007, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justsexxx

Hey, do you mean when I join (for creditcard processing) I only pay 5%? While ccbill/epoch etc charge like 12%?

Do you have an affiliateadmin as well? Or do we need a 3rd party system like MAS/NATS etc?

We have an affiliate tracking system built in but during beta it's abit light on information displayed. The most basic transaction data is displayed.

The next phase of developement will beef up the stats reporting area and merchant reporting quite a bit.

dready · 10-06-2007, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chio

We have an affiliate tracking system built in but during beta it's abit light on information displayed. The most basic transaction data is displayed.

The next phase of developement will beef up the stats reporting area and merchant reporting quite a bit.

Chio, do you have a full integration API in place? I'd like to help beta this.

selena · 10-06-2007, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMisses

Jayman Cash Is interested in bata testing.....I would like a rep to get intouch with me ICQ 341601628 my name is Tracy

I have created an account but when I go to support it loggs me out?
(You do not have access to the page you requested, or you have timed out due to inactivity.

Please login to access the site)

I get that message.

My questions are on the side of the ease in paying affiliates with batch payments

I would love to know more

Bumpin' for Miss Tracy

PMdave · 10-06-2007, 09:30 AM

I just can't believe the people posting "signing up as we speak". Seen the phrase "By submitting this form you agree to the terms and conditions of our user agreement."? Please tell me you have read them even though there is no link to be found to them....

fuzebox · 10-06-2007, 09:33 AM

I can't believe the amount of people criticizing a product that has been desperately needed...

Chio · 10-06-2007, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justsexxx

Also, are you hosting everything at theplanet? Do you have physical access to your servers?

No the p2p and xml processing backend are not at the planet (they are hosted in the UK) and before final launch everything will be on our own dedicated servers w.physical access.

Please remember we are still in beta while we develop features and roll out all the planned features.

Chio · 10-06-2007, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dready

Chio, do you have a full integration API in place? I'd like to help beta this.

Yes there is a full xml backend in place with full api docs and example scripts.

Chio · 10-06-2007, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PMdave

I just can't believe the people posting "signing up as we speak". Seen the phrase "By submitting this form you agree to the terms and conditions of our user agreement."? Please tell me you have read them even though there is no link to be found to them....

As I said when announcing both the 3rd party billing features and the p2p solution we are in beta (hence the lower rates) Some parts of the site are not done (the outside pages). At full launch everything will be available.

Chio · 10-06-2007, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by selena

Bumpin' for Miss Tracy

I will send you a message now to answer any questions you may have.

webjoker · 10-06-2007, 09:45 AM

Chio, do you realize how much richer this will make you ?
and even if it doesn't: congrats on creating a very much needed competition.

oh and whatever you do - don't get dirty = beware of the gambling industry - but you're smart enough to know that , a ?

Kimmykim · 10-06-2007, 09:45 AM

I only read page 1, but I've got some questions about the system. If they've been answered, point me to the post numbers.

1. Who's holding this money on account? A bank? If so, are the accounts considered individual and are they insured? If so, up to how much?

2. How are you handling identity documentation, such as what has to be done to satisfy the Patriot Act?

3. Is the third party processing you are doing being done as a HR-IPSP that is PCS compliant as far as Visa is concerned? I looked on the list, but maybe its not updated.

4. What region does your client have to be incorporated in order to process card transactions?

Glad to see someone taking initiative for the industry, for sure, still want to know that it's being done properly.

Chio · 10-06-2007, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

Looks like alternative to ccbill and epassporte.

That's the plan. We also plan on having a full suite of affiliate tools and merchant/affiliate stats system. We have one click affiliate sign ups to programs processing through us which can be found using a full search engine for affiliates to locate all sites within a niche to promote.

We offer full customization of all forms and we also have a plan template system so you can easily add sites without having to retype the same prices/options over and over, easily changed as well.

We have tried to make it as powerful as we can, and have a lot more planned.

Chio · 10-06-2007, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dready

Signed up and got: Error UAC01

Your account was fixed and you are all set. This error occurs when you go to a sign up form without the account type set. This has also been fixed.

Jace · 10-06-2007, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kimmykim

I only read page 1, but I've got some questions about the system. If they've been answered, point me to the post numbers.

1. Who's holding this money on account? A bank? If so, are the accounts considered individual and are they insured? If so, up to how much?

2. How are you handling identity documentation, such as what has to be done to satisfy the Patriot Act?

3. Is the third party processing you are doing being done as a HR-IPSP that is PCS compliant as far as Visa is concerned? I looked on the list, but maybe its not updated.

4. What region does your client have to be incorporated in order to process card transactions?

Glad to see someone taking initiative for the industry, for sure, still want to know that it's being done properly.

jesus christ you are hot sometimes

MEOW!

JFK · 10-06-2007, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace

jesus christ you are hot sometimes

MEOW!

What do you mean, SOMETIMES ??

Blazing · 10-06-2007, 11:32 AM

will be checking it out.. we do need an alternative to epass...

Tjeezers · 10-06-2007, 12:47 PM

im confussed

this is an adult webmaster sollution?
Wich sponsor will start with paying their affiliates on this system?

i myself use as a sub sollution for epass Payoneer.com. AWE started with them and offers their webmasters a card.

That is what it means for webmasters, when you offer a lookalike like epass, we are used to hear this thru one of our top sponsors introducing it as a extra payout option. So how will this all be started?

I admire the concept btw, best of luck with it.

Zuzana Designs · 10-06-2007, 02:05 PM

wow this is good news

avm79 · 10-06-2007, 02:29 PM

yup, good news

dissipate · 10-06-2007, 02:39 PM

Looks awesome chio, who is handling your support?

Lance69 · 10-06-2007, 02:55 PM

Bump for KimmyKims questions... especially the Corporate location / regional question...
(I sincerely hope this is half of what we've all been waiting for.... [crossing fingers])

Snake Doctor · 10-06-2007, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kimmykim

I only read page 1, but I've got some questions about the system. If they've been answered, point me to the post numbers.

1. Who's holding this money on account? A bank? If so, are the accounts considered individual and are they insured? If so, up to how much?

2. How are you handling identity documentation, such as what has to be done to satisfy the Patriot Act?

3. Is the third party processing you are doing being done as a HR-IPSP that is PCS compliant as far as Visa is concerned? I looked on the list, but maybe its not updated.

4. What region does your client have to be incorporated in order to process card transactions?

Glad to see someone taking initiative for the industry, for sure, still want to know that it's being done properly.

I heart kimmykim

Snake Doctor · 10-06-2007, 03:12 PM

I also have a question for Chio.

I'm not here to stir up shit, you know I like you, but I'm sure you expected some close scrutiny and are prepared for it.

The last AVS system that used their banking/processing relationships to become an IPSP was adult check, and they failed miserably and all of the paysite owners who chose to use them were left holding the bag.

What have you learned from observing that experience and what have you done differently to ensure that you'll be around long term?

minusonebit · 10-06-2007, 04:00 PM

Bump again for good news. Would be nice to see ePassporte come in here and try to give people reasons why not to switch. Myself, I cannot think of a single one.

CyberHustler · 10-06-2007, 04:32 PM

Sounds great...

Shoehorn! · 10-06-2007, 04:36 PM

I told you guys there was some huge news coming.

PunkRockXXX · 10-06-2007, 04:45 PM

i just signed up ;]

chio this is just lovely.

dready · 10-06-2007, 04:50 PM

I'd really like to hear a response to KimmyKim and Lenny's questions. Openness is something we've never had from ePass.

Jet - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-06-2007, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kimmykim

I only read page 1, but I've got some questions about the system. If they've been answered, point me to the post numbers.

1. Who's holding this money on account? A bank? If so, are the accounts considered individual and are they insured? If so, up to how much?

2. How are you handling identity documentation, such as what has to be done to satisfy the Patriot Act?

3. Is the third party processing you are doing being done as a HR-IPSP that is PCS compliant as far as Visa is concerned? I looked on the list, but maybe its not updated.

4. What region does your client have to be incorporated in order to process card transactions?

Glad to see someone taking initiative for the industry, for sure, still want to know that it's being done properly.

Pleasurepays · 10-06-2007, 05:11 PM

detonated = denoted

http://www.verifiedcharge.com/cgi-bi....cgi?Account=P

Pleasurepays · 10-06-2007, 05:11 PM

detonated = denoted

http://www.verifiedcharge.com/cgi-bi....cgi?Account=P

NinjaSteve · 10-06-2007, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox

I can't believe the amount of people criticizing a product that has been desperately needed...

If you've lost thousands to a processor closing or holding funds and then dropping off the face of the earth I'm sure you'd be asking some important questions to an up and coming service that affects your money.

starpimps · 10-06-2007, 08:27 PM

bump for sexy time

Chio · 10-06-2007, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kimmykim

I only read page 1, but I've got some questions about the system. If they've been answered, point me to the post numbers.

1. Who's holding this money on ...

Currently our accounts are with BOA and we are in the process of setting up the ability to do sub accounts (insured FDIC 100,000.00 per account)

Merchants will be required to send address verification, photo id, telephone numbers will be verified electronically bank and card verification. For ACH we require the above in addition to a signed Credit/debit authorization form.

By PCS do you mean PCI? If so, yes we have met all the requirements for PCI, and thus CISP and we are currently in the process of validating our status with a Visa approved QSA. We already have ACH authorization and our main focus right now is p2p payments (without card funding) until we can get the website completed the server migrated and the CISP designation.

Thanks for the questions, I would love to talk with you personally as you have always seemed very helpful and knowledgeable in respect to matters such as this. You can reach me via ICQ (in location)

I've got a lot of follow up posting to do before I head off for the evening. I'll check back in the AM.

martinsc · 10-06-2007, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chio

BOA
FDIC
ACH
PCS
PCI
PCI
CISP
QSA
ACH
CISP

damn, I love it when you talk dirty....

Chio · 10-06-2007, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lenny2

I also have a question for Chio.

I'm not here to stir up shit, you know I like you, but I'm sure you expected some close scrutiny and are prepared for it.

The last AVS system that used their banking/processing relationships to become an IPSP was adult check, and they failed miserably and all of the paysite owners who chose to use them were left holding the bag.

What have you learned from observing that experience and what have you done differently to ensure that you'll be around long term?

Heya Lenny. I guess you mean powercharge? As far as I know it never launched (even in beta) I never heard one way or the other.

To answer you question we will keep a very close watch on our merchants, affiliates, and customers and try as best we can to detect abusive patterns etc. We will very tight screening of new accounts and excellent fraud controls for all three types of users.

I certainly know we will do everything we can to stay in business and not do anything to jeopardize our clients money.

Chio · 10-06-2007, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by martinsc

damn, I love it when you talk dirty....

HAHA Yeah acronym galore. I'll be on ICQ a bit longer this evening if anyone has any questions.

MoreMagic · 10-06-2007, 10:47 PM

Heee Choi, How are you going to solve all service issues? Can we wait hours on the phone some how

like with Epass, or is it all going to be handled 24/7 by Email

with a fast response ;)

Snake Doctor · 10-06-2007, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chio

Heya Lenny. I guess you mean powercharge? As far as I know it never launched (even in beta) I never heard one way or the other.

To answer you question we will keep a very close watch on our merchants, affiliates, and customers and try as best we can to detect abusive patterns etc. We will very tight screening of new accounts and excellent fraud controls for all three types of users.

I certainly know we will do everything we can to stay in business and not do anything to jeopardize our clients money.

Actually it was called AC Pay. It didn't last very long

They never told us what happened, but my best guess is that they weren't prepared for the level of fraud involved in processing for other people's sites (rather than just their own), and got into chargeback trouble and had to close up shop.

djscrib · 10-07-2007, 01:28 AM

I realize it's still being built but here's a feature request to consider. Your XMLPay interface allows you to do raw transactions, but requires that the username/password for the account be passed in xml.

To increase security what about generating a random security key (A Guid would work fine) for each account and passing that instead. Users could reset their security key whenever they wanted.

This way if the data sent was ever captured, the "hacker" would wind up with an API key, and the only damage they could do with it is bill their own credit card account basically. They couldn't log into a user's account and withdraw money.

Also, it would allow you to give the key to a 3rd party shopping cart provider to perform transactions on your behalf, without worrying about them logging into your account and stealing your shit.

djscrib · 10-07-2007, 01:30 AM

Other question.

Can you actually start collecting live Credit Card payments using the API?

Zester · 10-07-2007, 03:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minusonebit

Bump again for good news. Would be nice to see ePassporte come in here and try to give people reasons why not to switch. Myself, I cannot think of a single one.

one reason = Mike

MaDalton · 10-07-2007, 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton

can i wire money from my account to a european bank account?

without having to complete fax forms but just by doing it online like i can with paypal?

quoting cause it might have been overlooked...

10-06-2007, 08:21 AM	#102
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10-06-2007, 09:05 AM	#106
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10-06-2007, 09:15 AM	#107
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10-06-2007, 09:45 AM	#117
webjoker Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 367	Chio, do you realize how much richer this will make you ? and even if it doesn't: congrats on creating a very much needed competition. oh and whatever you do - don't get dirty = beware of the gambling industry - but you're smart enough to know that , a ? __________________ hehe

10-06-2007, 11:32 AM	#123
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10-06-2007, 08:23 AM	#103
TheMisses Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: next door Posts: 6	Jayman Cash Is interested in bata testing.....I would like a rep to get intouch with me ICQ 341601628 my name is Tracy I have created an account but when I go to support it loggs me out? (You do not have access to the page you requested, or you have timed out due to inactivity. Please login to access the site) I get that message. My questions are on the side of the ease in paying affiliates with batch payments I would love to know more

10-06-2007, 09:30 AM	#111
PMdave Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,517	I just can't believe the people posting "signing up as we speak". Seen the phrase "By submitting this form you agree to the terms and conditions of our user agreement."? Please tell me you have read them even though there is no link to be found to them....

10-06-2007, 09:33 AM	#112
fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 22,003	I can't believe the amount of people criticizing a product that has been desperately needed...

10-06-2007, 09:45 AM	#118
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	I only read page 1, but I've got some questions about the system. If they've been answered, point me to the post numbers. 1. Who's holding this money on account? A bank? If so, are the accounts considered individual and are they insured? If so, up to how much? 2. How are you handling identity documentation, such as what has to be done to satisfy the Patriot Act? 3. Is the third party processing you are doing being done as a HR-IPSP that is PCS compliant as far as Visa is concerned? I looked on the list, but maybe its not updated. 4. What region does your client have to be incorporated in order to process card transactions? Glad to see someone taking initiative for the industry, for sure, still want to know that it's being done properly.

10-06-2007, 12:47 PM	#124
Tjeezers Webmaster Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: BP4L - NL/RO Posts: 16,556	im confussed this is an adult webmaster sollution? Wich sponsor will start with paying their affiliates on this system? i myself use as a sub sollution for epass Payoneer.com. AWE started with them and offers their webmasters a card. That is what it means for webmasters, when you offer a lookalike like epass, we are used to hear this thru one of our top sponsors introducing it as a extra payout option. So how will this all be started? I admire the concept btw, best of luck with it. __________________ Enroll in the SWAG Affiliate Asian Live Cam Program and get 9 free quality linkbacks from my network! Wanna see how old school I am? Look at this! All my Cam Review Sites are here!

10-06-2007, 02:05 PM	#125
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10-06-2007, 02:29 PM	#126
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10-06-2007, 02:39 PM	#127
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10-06-2007, 02:55 PM	#128
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10-06-2007, 03:12 PM	#130
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10-06-2007, 04:00 PM	#131
minusonebit So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: [email protected] Posts: 7,391	Bump again for good news. Would be nice to see ePassporte come in here and try to give people reasons why not to switch. Myself, I cannot think of a single one.

10-06-2007, 04:32 PM	#132
CyberHustler So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 25,214	Sounds great...

10-06-2007, 04:36 PM	#133
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10-06-2007, 04:45 PM	#134
PunkRockXXX So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: the south Posts: 486	i just signed up ;] chio this is just lovely.

10-06-2007, 04:50 PM	#135
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10-06-2007, 05:11 PM	#137
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10-06-2007, 05:11 PM	#138
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10-06-2007, 08:27 PM	#140
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10-06-2007, 10:47 PM	#145
MoreMagic Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,848	Heee Choi, How are you going to solve all service issues? Can we wait hours on the phone some how like with Epass, or is it all going to be handled 24/7 by Email with a fast response ;)

10-07-2007, 01:28 AM	#147
djscrib Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 147	Feature Request I realize it's still being built but here's a feature request to consider. Your XMLPay interface allows you to do raw transactions, but requires that the username/password for the account be passed in xml. To increase security what about generating a random security key (A Guid would work fine) for each account and passing that instead. Users could reset their security key whenever they wanted. This way if the data sent was ever captured, the "hacker" would wind up with an API key, and the only damage they could do with it is bill their own credit card account basically. They couldn't log into a user's account and withdraw money. Also, it would allow you to give the key to a 3rd party shopping cart provider to perform transactions on your behalf, without worrying about them logging into your account and stealing your shit. __________________ Vidlock DRM Service - Add DRM to your website today http://www.vidlock.com Coming Soon - Vidpass

10-07-2007, 01:30 AM	#148
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