will76

Or maybe it is me, but some of you are nut jobs. Really i know a lot of surfers post here but some of you are really fucking crazy.

I don't understand how people are outed for stealing but a lot of people seem to turn a blind eye. I don't get it. Company A steals everyones traffic using shit like zango, spends money on torrents sites, but they make a post about a new promo and lots of people are making posts like ' looks nice great site" "way to go, great stuff!"

I don't fucking care. I dont care if it is the greatest shit in the world you fucking steal, from me and from anyone here who makes money (which might be about 1/2 the people reading this). I dont care how nice you are, or how cool your site is, of if you have a contest giving away shit, you either own or work for a company that does a lot of really dishonest shit. Either way, some of that money going in your pocket is mine. But these people still post and people still respond to them like it never happend.


Another thing I don't understand is the whole "persona" shit. If you act like an asshole and attack me, make up lies about me, attack my company and my credibility, I don't care if you are a nice guy in person. I do my business online, which is where you are shitting on me. I will likely never meet you. I don't care if you have to act like a dickhead to make money, if you attack me in the process then I think you are an asshole and don't buy the "persona" defense. Chances are you are an asshole in real life too but you are too much of a pussy to say to people's faces, so online you can be a tough guy and talk shit because you are safe behind your keyboard. Fuck you and your "persona". If you going to be a dick head then just be straight about it. You are a dickhead, please don't try to convince me it is just an act to make money and you really are a nice guy, no you are not, you are a dick head. People do millions of dollars worth of business from this site but going to act like a 12 year old and call it marketing, and apparently some of you buy it this shit.


What about this site... 49 of 50 posts on the front page are about bullshit. What happened to the business posts? Now I can't even do a search to find them. This site makes MILLIONS but there is no full time mod, the site loads slow as shit and now there is no search function. How can a site that makes so much money and have so little overhead continue to be neglected? How hard is it to buy a couple nice servers and get some bandwidth or do what ever is needed to fix this shit. Here is a novel idea, do away with the contest threads. Not only does it attrack surfers who shouldnt be here in the first place but that doesn't help the site load any faster.


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citron

nobody is forcing you to use this forum, if you don't like it find another one. And about forum being slow you're telling like "buy a few servers" .. dude do you pay using this forum or its completely free for you? feed the dogs to bark on you

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ro8in

Sig whores and fanboys there ain't nothing to it..

dollarpimp.com doesn't steal

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»Rob Content«

See that big banner up there that is also in will's sig.. That is him paying to use this forum.

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DWB

I can't argue with what you say Will.

Papillon

I'm with you man. I don't get it either.

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Aussie Rebel

It's amazing what people will do and turn a blind eye to for a couple of free drinks at a show.
Some of the people in this industry would even pimp there kids if they thought they would get away with it and make a dollar

will76

yawn.... got to love the " if you dont like it" leave posts. Here is one for you .... " if you dont like my post don't read it. " fucking idiots. I wish GFY did charge people to post here. Please charge us all $100 a month to post here, then the majority of the people who are killing this place would be gone.

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Dirty F

That shit drives me nuts. I so wonder who these people are, why they post that shit. No matter what company, what thread, what history that company has there is a group of people here who just blindly keep "thats awesome!".

Im not sure if they are sigwhores or braindead morons or whatever but i cant stand it how they just keep posting that shit.

Iron Fist

It's all true

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will76

That is another thing. I don't know why i even pay for this shit. I see more surfers with bigger sigs then me who are not paying to advertise here and we all know that being #35 in rotation on top of the site is not where you getting your traffic from... I know ICE and company try to keep up, I know this is not their job and I suspect what they do here is a "help" and not their job or a paid part of it. You can't blame them. Sig too big, fake nicks, Free For All weekends, etc... its totally turned into a nut house around here. How hard is it to pay for a 24 hour position to monitor this site? $10 an hour max, 7K a month ? cut into profit too much ???

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Flynn

It's very true. It's total mental retardation at it's finest. I can't stand to open up a contest thread because almost everyone posting is kissing ass.

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will76

reps who have worked at more companies than pairs of underwear I own. reps who are friends with the reps of the company fucking people, they don't have traffic or content to get stolen, they still make their $500 a week or whatever, so they just blow each other's promos and bump each other's threads regardless what it is about. Sufers who won $50 in a contest that the company ran. Fake nicks by the company who started the thread. Those would be my guesses. Maybe people who think if they blow the company enough they will get free drinks at their next party. Some people who are wrapped up in the "i want to be internet cool' and try to be friends with everyone, in hopes of adding more friends to their myspace or adultwhoswho page.


Oh and my favorite. The people who say " Well it's not personal so why shouldn't I be nice to that person ". That's the best. The company they either own or work for is stealing from my company, which is less money in my pocket and you want to say it's not personal. It doesn't get any more personal than that.

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GrouchyAdmin

I thought you weren't paying to advertise here, anymore. Oh, Trey's gone now, so it's OK.

You're just as bad as the rest, but shittier at getting the masses worked up. Just leave, already, or shut the hell up and fall in line.

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will76

SexSearch made all do it... great logic. I guess Lars was on to something. So i need to steal to be competitive. Thanks for the business tip.

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will76

no you dumb fuck, it made it pretty pointless to advertise on a site where you were constantly being called a scammer. which was a 100% lie and the site that is taking your money wont enforce their own fucking rules.

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will76

Here is an idea. you go spend $2500 to advertise here and then let me make a bunch of post about you being scammer cheating people, etc..... you go do that, and then you can come back and comment like if you had an idea what you were talking about... ok ?

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marketsmart

Will, I respected you until this post. You were once a guy who seemed to stand up for the industry. Now you just seem to complain about everything..

Let's get back to the core issues or go post on another forum....

People look up to you as a fighter for the little guy with the balls to say what others are too afraid to say. Please don't become the perpetual whiner..

GrouchyAdmin

So you're leaving, then?

You know, Juicy seems to be able to do what you do, but he's successful at it.

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»Rob Content«

No what he is saying is fully true, there is no whine to it. The bro shit is fucking retarded, companies can use zango, then make a post here and everyone is doing thumbs up, good shit etc etc. What about the fact they steal?

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will76

If you respected me till this post but now dont because i am ranting about stuff that i think is the core problem with everything, then i doubt you ever respected me in the first place. I am not here for anyone's respect, friendship, to be popular, etc.. I post what i think regardless. Think of me what you want.

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will76

thats intelligent. You must have put a lot of thought in that. Thats why I am here, because I make money from sig views. Thats it. I just haven't mastered the art of saying " I like pie" 50 times a day. Juicy seems like an ok guy, but i don't want his job nor want to post on here 100K times about nothing. I am glad he is better at that then me.

THanks for the feedback though.

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GrouchyAdmin

If it's of any assistance "WHERE THE FUCK IS THE SEARCH," "ARG ZANGO," and "HOLY FUCKING SHIT WE'RE BEING SHAVED!" stopped being directly applicable once Shap figured it out.

I agree that these factors suck, but if all you are going to do is bitch about the place and shit on the (lack of) moderation, do you really think you'll be able to further grow your empire here?

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BV

that's awesome!
congrats to the winners!

»Rob Content«

Will pays to keep this place going.

Rules seem to be picked and choosen at times which is enforced and which should have a blind eye turned on them. Kind of fucked.

This industry in itself lacks a lot of ethics and relies on the bro club. Status "or how it appears" on message boards and fubar pics means more then how you run your business.

When someone like Will speaks up on those who are stealing, hurting out industry, doing shit wrong he is the bad guy.

That is like the police arresting a rapist and people bitching they did not let the guy cum first.

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When everyone around you seems insane...
You are most likely the insane one.

PS: Will76...
You got no credibility. You are fucking retarded like everyone else here.

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will76

this site was just part of my rant which I only mentioned in my initial post until you started replying about it. I "bitched about it" now you and me are arguing about it and I am replying to your posts. I am not harping on this site just replying to comments about it.

Further growing my empire as you put it does not influence how i post. If it did I would just kiss everyone's ass. What do you suppose we do? give me some suggestions. You seem to know that this is the wrong way to grow ones empire, how do you suggest instead of bitching one accomplishes that task ?

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hateman

they dont care either, they just drop their sigs and move on to the next thread.

will76

yeah and i suck dick to pay the electric bill too. oh wait or was that some one else ?

thanks bro, any more good advice for us.? Tell us how 5 pre checked cross sales is a benefit to the surfer or how dot xxx is a good thing. Educte us retards... You obviously have done things right, let us learn from your example.

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hateman

Err, no. That him paying to draw webmaster traffic for his sites.

Deej

i just dont read those threads...

flagged irrelevant

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»Rob Content«

And here comes Alien, "I'd be rich if someone gave me money to make money!"

Best quote ever.

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will76

but all the sponsors aren't thieves.... so it really isn't a relivant point.

Stealing just makes it a little easier for some people to make money. They are lazy and find a site like zango and instead of generating their own traffic their steal from people who are actually doing all the work. And in some cases it is greed, a company makes 100+ million a year and that is not enough they need to do shaddy shit and steal traffic to make more money.

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»Rob Content«

Oh sorry captain perfect.

See that big banner up there that is also in will's sig.. That is him paying to use this forum to bring knowledge of his program.

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hateman

Bullshit.

This forum is free. People don't need to pay to use it.

Will is paying to have a huge banner in his sig, and to have his website advertised to GFY's traffic pool.

»Rob Content«

So you are saying that by having your banner on the top it's not a way to bring knowledge to your program? So people click the banner and learn what it is?

???

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will76

i wish they did charge people to post here. Even $5 a month would get rid of 1/2 the nonsense and posters who couldn't afford it. AlienQ would be gone thats for sure.



if you can't pay $5 a month i doubt you going to drive much traffic and make sales so i dont think the sponsors will care if the surfers were weeded out.

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GrouchyAdmin

Well, if it's against your creed to do business with people whom which you wish to call out on doing bad things, it doesn't really work well to attempt to build bridges with them, or to call them assholes to their face.

Seriously, if you're pissed about 'tha big playahs' and 'tha bros', I don't think you have a chance in hell of ousting them, because they're worth more to this dumb little forum than you are. They pay more. They pay.

If you want to get away from them, I can suggest another forum run by TMM which almost exclusively admits users of TMM products and people who offer services regarding them. It's incredibly slow, and doesn't get the amount of traffic that happens here, but hey, there's fewer bros.

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hateman

cant argue with that.

will76

if it is against my creed to do business with people who do bad things (i.e. steal)... what the fuck kind of question is that? Isn't that like #1 one the list of things people go over before doing business with another company... lets see, 1# do they fuck people over? If yes avoid doing business with them.

Build bridges with people who do shit like use zango? I wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire. I wouldnt work with them no matter how many contest they threw or free drinks they wanted to buy me. I don't care which board they post on either.

WTF... Your post here says a lot about yourself.

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will76

i ran out of medication and the search function did it If they don't fix it soon I might start shooting people randomly


Its not that, the search not working is just the icing on the cake of frustration with this site. Its lot of things from the people who post here to the way the site is run, to the performance of the site. Mainly with the people who post here. Maybe i should go away for a while. I've had my fill of stupidty to last me a long time.


nice link.

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GrouchyAdmin

This place is also sponsored by places which you have claimed steal, like AFF. People who post on here sponsor Zango. Why are you sponsoring thieves? Oh, right, right, you just pay to promote yourself here, you have nothing to do with that. It's because of those nasty mods.. that you pay money to despite abhoring every little thing they do.

So long as it's gfy during sweeps week, right?

It sure does. Ask anyone: I fuck people out of money left and right. That's why I'm still here. Nice deflection attempt.

Your words don't match your actions. Shut the hell up or back them up.

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ro8in

What he said

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polish_aristocrat

haha true

same with people congratulating over some useless postcount or people saying "welcome back" to people they've never heard of

http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/776850-guys-am.html

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will76

you are an idiot. So because Sex Search advertises here I am suppose to boycott GFY, considering they advertise just about everywhere I am suppose to go crawl under a rock? I wont do business with the people who steal. Anything beyond that you can interconnect everyone if you look hard enough. So people who post on a site that has a sexsearch banner on it, I guess i cant do business with them either because they are supporting a forum that takes money from a company that steals. yeah, ok, whatever you say. I guess I can't back it up per your logic, but its your logic not mine.

I am not deflecting anything, just responding to your nonesense of building bridges with people who steal or some shit about me growing my empire or whatever other shit you are talking about.

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will76

the post count stuff is totally gay. It is surprising how many people feel the need to announce it. Who gives a shit. I guess some people but really who gives a shit. I would have more respect for someone who says " I made 10 business posts" over someone who says " 50K posts". Making a lot of worthless posts is sure an accomplishment that everyone should be proud off. If you feel the need to annouce something how about " hey i finished a big project " or ' I just launched a new site" " I worked 16 hours today" I made xxxxx today... na, those aren't accomplishments, making 2,000 posts, now that is an accomplishment to be proud of and brag to your friends.

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ro8in

So totally right ...


btw

Great thread this

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TBrown

That's the biggest bullshit I've read in a couple of days. It's like sayin why is this internetz thing global....try to look outside the box ;)

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ro8in

Lots of this going on here :P

http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/771324-125-single-imlive-sign.html

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