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headless ghost · 06-26-2007, 08:19 AM

http://www.theregister.com/2007/06/2...m_convictions/

US porn spammers guilty as charged
Canned by CAN-SPAM
By Drew Cullen → More by this author
Published Tuesday 26th June 2007 01:12 GMT
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Two men who ran a spam operation to promote pornographic websites had the book thrown at them today. A federal jury in Phoenix, Arizona convicted Jeffrey Kilbride, 41, of Venice, California and James Schaffer, 41 of Paradise Valley, Arizona of eight counts, including conspiracy, fraud, money laundering, and transportation of obscene materials.

In 2003, Kilbride and Schaffer set up a spamming operation to promote pornography sites. They earned $2m in commission from porn site operators for the traffic generated from the emails. Hard-core porn was embedded in each email, which meant that anyone who opened the email could see it.

Kilbride and Schaffer did not let the CAN-SPAM Act, which banned the distribution of multiple electronic commercial mail messages containing falsified header information, stand in their way.

When the law came into effect on Jan 1, 2004, they simply logged onto servers in Amsterdam, to make it seem like their email came from outside the US. Also, the 'from' names and email addresses were different from the 'reply to' addresses, so recipients could not identify the sender or reply to email.

In another violation of CAN-SPAM, the domain names used to send the spam were registered in the name of a "fictitious employee at a shell corporation Kilbride and Schaffer established in the Republic of Mauritius," the US Department of Justice said today.

To cap it all, the dastardly duo funneled their ill-gotten gains through the Republic of Mauritius and the Isle of Man to "further insulate themselves from detection by U.S. law enforcement".

In August, 2005 Kilbride and Schaffer were the first people charged under the CAN-SPAM Act. They face up to five years in jail for each spam and obscenity offense and a fine of up to $500,000 and up to 20 years for money laundering. They will be sentenced in September. Boy are they in trouble.

Three associates of Kilbride and Schaffer, who include housewife Jennifer Clason, 34, of Raymond, New Hampshire, have already pleaded guilty to breaching CAN-SPAM. ®

Dirty Dane · 06-26-2007, 08:21 AM

0wned!!!

jact · 06-26-2007, 08:25 AM

Lock em up, throw away the keys.

Tanker · 06-26-2007, 08:29 AM

anyone know them?

headless ghost · 06-26-2007, 08:34 AM

they simply logged onto servers in Amsterdam, to make it seem like their email came from outside the US

offshore hosting really helped!

CheneyRumsfeld · 06-26-2007, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tanker

anyone know them?

so who hasn't posted recently?

LiveDose · 06-26-2007, 08:56 AM

That is awesome.

stev0 · 06-26-2007, 09:06 AM

Great news, if only they'd lock up the rest of those bottom feeders that keep filling up my inbox.

PurrrsianPussyKat · 06-26-2007, 10:30 AM

So JenC pleaded guilty. Wonder what her punishment was.

dig420 · 06-26-2007, 11:16 AM

I knew one of those guys well, and he was a hell of a nice guy. Yes he spammed, but he was pretty smalltime compared to several companies that post on this board constantly, buy the biggest sigs available and get their asses kissed here daily when they probably really should be in prison.

Hopefully the sentence will be light, as much worse offenders have been let off with a fine and an 'I'm sorry'.

Forest · 06-26-2007, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420

I knew one of those guys well, and he was a hell of a nice guy. Yes he spammed, but he was pretty smalltime compared to several companies that post on this board constantly, buy the biggest sigs available and get their asses kissed here daily when they probably really should be in prison.

Hopefully the sentence will be light, as much worse offenders have been let off with a fine and an 'I'm sorry'.

diamond jim right?

who · 06-26-2007, 11:18 AM

Battusssss

EroticTalk · 06-26-2007, 11:33 AM

imagine if u had a 4 year old girl getting hardcore fucking porn on her inbox. WOULD YOU WANT THEM TO HAVE A LIGHT SENTENCE?

i DONT think so. THINK a lil bit here. i get about 20 fucking spam emails with hardcore content, lock em up god damnit.

EroticTalk · 06-26-2007, 11:34 AM

WTF? i pressed submit once and it showed it like 5 times, there was a timeout when i posted that, i hope i dont get bugged for a glitch on your forums :S

Anthony · 06-26-2007, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EroticTalk

imagine if u had a 4 year old girl getting hardcore fucking porn on her inbox. WOULD YOU WANT THEM TO HAVE A LIGHT SENTENCE?

i DONT think so. THINK a lil bit here. i get about 20 fucking spam emails with hardcore content, lock em up god damnit.

A 4 year old. Get a fucking grip on reality.

CE_Chris · 06-26-2007, 11:47 AM

doesn't look good for them!!!

TheAmericanCannibal · 06-26-2007, 11:50 AM

There are many on this board who have been in this biz for over 8-10 yrs and if you are one of them, you know these two guys.

jimmy-3-way · 06-26-2007, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EroticTalk

imagine if u had a 4 year old girl getting hardcore fucking porn on her inbox. WOULD YOU WANT THEM TO HAVE A LIGHT SENTENCE?

i DONT think so. THINK a lil bit here. i get about 20 fucking spam emails per day with hardcore content, lock em up god damnit.

What 4 year old has email?

That's pretty fucking retarded.

And if your 4 year old is smart enough to have email she's probably smart enough to know that she should avoid emails with DOUBLE ANAL in the subject line.

Anthony · 06-26-2007, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheAmericanCannibal

There are many on this board who have been in this biz for over 8-10 yrs and if you are one of them, you know these two guys.

Jason · 06-26-2007, 11:59 AM

you guys that are against it and want to throw them away.. how about we report what you do to the local church's and hopefully they will create havoc for you.

fucking assholes. get into another business.

jimmy-3-way · 06-26-2007, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason

you guys that are against it and want to throw them away.. how about we report what you do to the local church's and hopefully they will create havoc for you.

fucking assholes. get into another business.

Damn right, bro.

woj · 06-26-2007, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

0wned!!!

indeed

DaddyHalbucks · 06-26-2007, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by headless ghost

they simply logged onto servers in Amsterdam, to make it seem like their email came from outside the US

offshore hosting really helped!

Yup, they got what they deserved.

sweetcuties · 06-26-2007, 12:07 PM

Great post... spammers are pieces of shit

Mutt · 06-26-2007, 12:11 PM

no doubt they broke the law but it looks to me like they are going to get as much time as some get for murder. jail isn't the place for them - they should just seize all their assets and maybe a year in jail.

Ace_luffy · 06-26-2007, 12:13 PM

whow's that guy....

dig420 · 06-26-2007, 12:15 PM

There are mailers and there are spammers. These guys narrowed their lists very very quickly, focused their content by niche and achieved amazing conversion ratios by getting the right emails to the right people. I'm not saying it's a good thing, but if you're going to be a mailer, that's how you do it. Neither one of these guys ever screwed over, sued or robbed a webmaster. A lot of people that are bashing these guys suck up and post in contest threads for companies that fuck over surfers AND webmasters and spammed absolutely without regard for targeting in the most irresponsible and offensive manner possible. If any spammers deserve a warning it's these guys, but it's probably these guys that will get hammered while the real cocksuckers paid a fine and post here every day.

dig420 · 06-26-2007, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

Yup, they got what they deserved.

One of these guys posted on the board you love so much (because they treat you with respect which you don't get anywhere else) and was your loyal ally in many political threads. Still think he got what he deserved?

woj · 06-26-2007, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt

no doubt they broke the law but it looks to me like they are going to get as much time as some get for murder. jail isn't the place for them - they should just seize all their assets and maybe a year in jail.

yea, then a year later they get out of jail, and find a legitimate job, eh?
What will happen is they would just move out of the country and be back in business in no time...

XTuber · 06-26-2007, 12:19 PM

Spammers are dumb asses - I get spam that is nothing more than an incoherent collection of words, not always the same language.

D · 06-26-2007, 12:25 PM

Good news, imho.

tranza · 06-26-2007, 12:27 PM

That's great news!!

Achmed · 06-26-2007, 12:44 PM

do you like falafel brother?

HairToStay · 06-26-2007, 12:45 PM

One of those people named in the story still runs an adult program ....

dig420 · 06-26-2007, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Achmed

do you like falafel brother?

got scared of your original post and had admin access to change it? Interesting...

TeenSluts · 06-26-2007, 01:19 PM

U Hhh Ohhhhhh

RawAlex · 09-26-2007, 08:44 AM

Update on this:

On Sept 7th, a judge denied the defendants try to get the conviction thrown out or for a new trial to be had.

On Sept 24th, James Schaffer (aka Diamond Jim) was to be sentenced. I have not found any information on what the sentence was, but he was facing 30 plus years.

What surprises me is that nobody twigged onto the fact that the images found to be obscene may have involved fisting. This may also be one of the first cases in a long time where an online porn operation was charged AND found guilty of obscenity.

Anyone have additional information?

Cassie · 09-26-2007, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Update on this:

On Sept 7th, a judge denied the defendants try to get the conviction thrown out or for a new trial to be had.

On Sept 24th, James Schaffer (aka Diamond Jim) was to be sentenced. I have not found any information on what the sentence was, but he was facing 30 plus years.

What surprises me is that nobody twigged onto the fact that the images found to be obscene may have involved fisting. This may also be one of the first cases in a long time where an online porn operation was charged AND found guilty of obscenity.

Anyone have additional information?

30 years! he should have just gone out and killed a family with his car. he would have received a lesser sentence and been out sooner.

holy cow!

RawAlex · 09-26-2007, 09:46 AM

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/06...m_convictions/

Guilty of violations of Can-SPAM, transportation of obscene materials, and money laundering.

The money Laundering by itself is up to 20 years. The Can Spams are 5 years each. THe obscenity I am not sure of. 8 counts total, the real "up to" could be 50 years or more done consecutively, which I am sure isn't what happened.

I am surprised there isn't a whole big stink about this. After all, the "transportation of obscene material" is a really big deal,essentially showing that moving this material over the net is apparently a crime.

I would think that some of the others on trial for obscenity charges are likely NOT happy to have seen this conviction.

RawAlex · 09-26-2007, 10:16 AM

Wow... this thread is like the rotting fish nobody wants to mention.

Reality comes to town, and everyone goes to the beach instead.

xNetworx · 09-26-2007, 10:18 AM

brutal!!!!!!!

Drake · 09-26-2007, 10:31 AM

How did they get busted? Of the tons of spammers how did they become targets when it wouldn't even have been apparent that they were in the US?

SilvercashJeanette · 09-26-2007, 10:41 AM

Good shit... Glad they were caught!

Shok · 09-26-2007, 10:42 AM

Most of us know who this is.

I feel for him, he is a good friend and a great guy.

Violetta · 09-26-2007, 10:52 AM

Lovely to hear!

LadyMischief · 09-26-2007, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurrrsianPussyKat

So JenC pleaded guilty. Wonder what her punishment was.

Probably plea-bargained. Looks like she was between a rock and a hard place either way.

WiredGuy · 09-26-2007, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shok

Most of us know who this is.

I feel for him, he is a good friend and a great guy.

Who is it?
WG

Shok · 09-26-2007, 11:57 AM

icq me WG

Anthony · 09-26-2007, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

Who is it?
WG

Diamond Jim.

In my prayers Bro.

StuartD · 09-26-2007, 12:05 PM

I hope JenC came out of all of it alright.

06-26-2007, 08:19 AM	#1
headless ghost Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 893	US Porn Spammers GUILTY! We Got Your Ass NOW! http://www.theregister.com/2007/06/2...m_convictions/ US porn spammers guilty as charged Canned by CAN-SPAM By Drew Cullen → More by this author Published Tuesday 26th June 2007 01:12 GMT Why Businesses need Business Continuity - Free whitepaperMobile computing: Opportunities and risk - Free whitepaper Two men who ran a spam operation to promote pornographic websites had the book thrown at them today. A federal jury in Phoenix, Arizona convicted Jeffrey Kilbride, 41, of Venice, California and James Schaffer, 41 of Paradise Valley, Arizona of eight counts, including conspiracy, fraud, money laundering, and transportation of obscene materials. In 2003, Kilbride and Schaffer set up a spamming operation to promote pornography sites. They earned $2m in commission from porn site operators for the traffic generated from the emails. Hard-core porn was embedded in each email, which meant that anyone who opened the email could see it. Kilbride and Schaffer did not let the CAN-SPAM Act, which banned the distribution of multiple electronic commercial mail messages containing falsified header information, stand in their way. When the law came into effect on Jan 1, 2004, they simply logged onto servers in Amsterdam, to make it seem like their email came from outside the US. Also, the 'from' names and email addresses were different from the 'reply to' addresses, so recipients could not identify the sender or reply to email. In another violation of CAN-SPAM, the domain names used to send the spam were registered in the name of a "fictitious employee at a shell corporation Kilbride and Schaffer established in the Republic of Mauritius," the US Department of Justice said today. To cap it all, the dastardly duo funneled their ill-gotten gains through the Republic of Mauritius and the Isle of Man to "further insulate themselves from detection by U.S. law enforcement". In August, 2005 Kilbride and Schaffer were the first people charged under the CAN-SPAM Act. They face up to five years in jail for each spam and obscenity offense and a fine of up to $500,000 and up to 20 years for money laundering. They will be sentenced in September. Boy are they in trouble. Three associates of Kilbride and Schaffer, who include housewife Jennifer Clason, 34, of Raymond, New Hampshire, have already pleaded guilty to breaching CAN-SPAM. ®

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RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	Update on this: On Sept 7th, a judge denied the defendants try to get the conviction thrown out or for a new trial to be had. On Sept 24th, James Schaffer (aka Diamond Jim) was to be sentenced. I have not found any information on what the sentence was, but he was facing 30 plus years. What surprises me is that nobody twigged onto the fact that the images found to be obscene may have involved fisting. This may also be one of the first cases in a long time where an online porn operation was charged AND found guilty of obscenity. Anyone have additional information?

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RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/06...m_convictions/ Guilty of violations of Can-SPAM, transportation of obscene materials, and money laundering. The money Laundering by itself is up to 20 years. The Can Spams are 5 years each. THe obscenity I am not sure of. 8 counts total, the real "up to" could be 50 years or more done consecutively, which I am sure isn't what happened. I am surprised there isn't a whole big stink about this. After all, the "transportation of obscene material" is a really big deal,essentially showing that moving this material over the net is apparently a crime. I would think that some of the others on trial for obscenity charges are likely NOT happy to have seen this conviction.

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