LOL the difference between California and Louisiana

[eroswebmaster]

People at Qualcomm stadium are offering Yoga, acupressure, AA meetings, kids are finger painting pictures and hanging them on the walls.

In Louisiana during Katrina you get raped or murdered by either the citizens or the police....LOL

[FelixFlow]

the fire demographic is mostly "Rich, White, & Republican"...you'd better believe the government is gonna take care of them!!!

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by eroswebmaster

People at Qualcomm stadium are offering Yoga, acupressure, AA meetings, kids are finger painting pictures and hanging them on the walls.

In Louisiana during Katrina you get raped or murdered by either the citizens or the police....LOL

Take another look at the two scenes, and answer your own question.

[Brother Bilo]

Doesn't it suck when stereotypes actually fulfill themselves?

I wonder how many stores have been looted from this fire? Anyone who's there confirm this?

[eroswebmaster]

Originally Posted by pornguy

Take another look at the two scenes, and answer your own question.

I have no questions, I know the answer already.

[Penthouse Tony]

Originally Posted by FelixFlow

the fire demographic is mostly "Rich, White, & Republican"...you'd better believe the government is gonna take care of them!!!

Somehow I don't think rich people need to take shelter at Qualcomm.

[Scootermuze]

California will be back good as new on a few months.. While New Orleans will stay as is for a long time to come...

But... There are differences other than the money people...
Yes.. they all, or most have adequate insurance and will rebuild immediately, but there are also the cities/politics that will see to it that things get done..

Many of the folks in New Olreans had no such insurance.. or the right type.. and the powers that be in New Orleans are mostly crooks, with no desire or ability to hurry things along..

It all can't still be thrown back on FEMA..

[G-Rotica]

Originally Posted by Brother Bilo

Doesn't it suck when stereotypes actually fulfill themselves?

I wonder how many stores have been looted from this fire? Anyone who's there confirm this?

What he said.

[Cyndalie]

The people at Qualcomm also have electricity, plumbing, food, water, supplies, medical staff, and logistal help. And they aren't trapped.
Not quite the same situation in the least.

[Elli]

The roads are still open for emergency crews to get supplies and help where they're needed. Nobody (as far as I know) is stuck on their roofs, waiting to be rescued.

[Brother Bilo]

At least the people in California had some warning that they should evacuate, not like Katrina. Oh wait, they were warned to leave, thats right.

[PornMogul]

Originally Posted by FelixFlow

the fire demographic is mostly "Rich, White, & Republican"...you'd better believe the government is gonna take care of them!!!

Your absolutely right about that

[sortie]

Great comparison. A few homes burned down and only three roads closed and it's equivalent to Katrina.

[Brother Bilo]

Originally Posted by sortie

Great comparison. A few homes burned down and only three roads closed and it's equivalent to Katrina.

500,000 evacuated so far and the fire is still completely out of control...I'd say it's a decent comparison.

[RawAlex]

The burn different things in the south.

[Moose]

Originally Posted by Brother Bilo

Doesn't it suck when stereotypes actually fulfill themselves?

I wonder how many stores have been looted from this fire? Anyone who's there confirm this?

There were some looters, 2 18 year old kids caught trying to loot some beer.

other than that I have heard of nothing.

[Snake Doctor]

The reason Katrina was such a disaster was in large part because all of the roads and bridges that led into the city were destroyed or underwater, and there was no way to get supplies to the people at the superdome or convention center.

A fire is alot different than a flood. You can't really compare the two.

[sortie]

Originally Posted by Brother Bilo

Doesn't it suck when stereotypes actually fulfill themselves?

Maybe fulfillment is for those who seek to be fulfilled to justify their own feelings.

[sortie]

Originally Posted by Brother Bilo

500,000 evacuated so far and the fire is still completely out of control...I'd say it's a decent comparison.

I'd say that if you saw two turds on the ground you would swear that one of them was from a white person because it stunk less.

[Porno Dan]

CNN is reporting 1 million people are going to be evacuated.

[AaronM]

Originally Posted by eroswebmaster

People at Qualcomm stadium are offering Yoga, acupressure, AA meetings, kids are finger painting pictures and hanging them on the walls.

You may have overlooked this.....I was watching CNN and noticed that a number of the "services" being offered had fees involved with them. The news may have shown the services but they failed to mention what they cost. They are showcasing the signs mentioning the services but avoiding signs with the prices on them which can still be seen in the background.

[CosmicTang]

I don't know if it's a fair comparison. Now if you had to evac the entire city of SD and then cram a bunch of them into Qualcomm, maybe that would be closer.

[Bdiddy]

Originally Posted by Lenny2

The reason Katrina was such a disaster was in large part because all of the roads and bridges that led into the city were destroyed or underwater, and there was no way to get supplies to the people at the superdome or convention center.

If the US military could drop supplies in West Berlin during the 1960's, this could have been done.

[tASSy]

Originally Posted by CosmicTang

I don't know if it's a fair comparison. Now if you had to evac the entire city of SD and then cram a bunch of them into Qualcomm, maybe that would be closer.

except right now they're urging san diego citizens to go elsewhere and head north. someone mentioned "3 roads" being closed down - Interstate 5, Interstate 15 , and CA 76 were all close down. 2 of those are pretty major "streets".

[spunkmaster]

Originally Posted by Lenny2

The reason Katrina was such a disaster was in large part because all of the roads and bridges that led into the city were destroyed or underwater, and there was no way to get supplies to the people at the superdome or convention center.

A fire is alot different than a flood. You can't really compare the two.

The red cross had thousands of bottles of water and food three miles away but the state wouldn't let them in to hand it out.

[crockett]

Look at it this way.. The Cali housing market is on fire..

[wtfent]

Originally Posted by FelixFlow

the fire demographic is mostly "Rich, White, & Republican"...you'd better believe the government is gonna take care of them!!!

Funny thing is the government is not even helping out all that much yet, its the people. We have a good group of people here in San Diego and it really shows in times like this.

[RawAlex]

Originally Posted by crockett

Look at it this way.. The Cali housing market is on fire..

This is one way, short term anyway, to balance out availablity and demand.

[Snake Doctor]

Originally Posted by spunkmaster

The red cross had thousands of bottles of water and food three miles away but the state wouldn't let them in to hand it out.

According to this article
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/08/kat...oss/index.html

Originally Posted by cnn

To set up a feeding station to feed a large number of people, you need space. You need to escort the personnel into position. ... And we asked Mr. Howell, and he concurred, to wait 24 hours to go to set that in," Mayeaux said.

By Saturday, however, the point became moot because the large-scale evacuation of the city was under way, Howell and Mayeaux said.

"After that point in time ... their rescue operation was in full force, and they felt they had adequate supplies there to take care of it without (the Red Cross) being introduced into the situation," Howell said. "So we did not go directly into New Orleans."

The National Guard began moving large quantities of food, water and ice into New Orleans and other damaged areas of southeast Louisiana on Wednesday, two days after the hurricane struck and a day before the Red Cross made its request to go in, Mayeaux said.

The biggest problem right after Katrina was the large number of people who didn't evacuate...all of the city and state's resources were devoted to rescuing people from rooftops, they couldn't spare the personnel to escort the red cross into the city.

I agree it was a total clusterfuck and I'm amazed that we didn't recall our governor over the way she handled it.

That being said, you can't compare a fire to a flood the way it's being done here. They're not the same thing.

[Snake Doctor]

Originally Posted by Bdiddy

If the US military could drop supplies in West Berlin during the 1960's, this could have been done.

Yeah well unfortunately almost all of our National Guard troops and helicopters were in Iraq at the time

[CosmicTang]

Originally Posted by tASSy

except right now they're urging san diego citizens to go elsewhere and head north. someone mentioned "3 roads" being closed down - Interstate 5, Interstate 15 , and CA 76 were all close down. 2 of those are pretty major "streets".

A friend lives in downtown SD, which is really not affected or in danger. He says they did close the 5 down for a bit this morning when the fire jumped over to the west side on Camp Pendleton, but they reopened is what I heard.

[will76]

Originally Posted by eroswebmaster

People at Qualcomm stadium are offering Yoga, acupressure, AA meetings, kids are finger painting pictures and hanging them on the walls.

In Louisiana during Katrina you get raped or murdered by either the citizens or the police....LOL

I dont know if you are trying to be funny or just are ignorant or both.


Im guessing both. You can't compare the two. Really fucking stupid on your part to try. Moron.

[will76]

Originally Posted by Brother Bilo

500,000 evacuated so far and the fire is still completely out of control...I'd say it's a decent comparison.

Evacuated does not equal stranded.


You guys are really fucking ignorant. Evacuated doesn't mean shit. What happened in New Orleans was because people were stranded with out living necessities nor any type of law or order... for days.

Try this for a fair scenero, how do you think the people would act if they couldnt evacuate their neighborhoods, the fire was blocks away and moving at them and they were stuck their for days with no food, water, police to maintain order etc... do you think they would be finger painting then.

fucking morons.

[will76]

The people who were evacuated to the superdome were there for 6 days. No one was murdered or raped. There was National Guard their to keep order. It was hot as shit in there, wet and the plumbing didnt work, literally shit everywhere but those people did not act like animals. I don't think they would have given a fuck about AA meetings or Yoga or finger painting.

[Jimmy Rock]

Originally Posted by Brother Bilo

Doesn't it suck when stereotypes actually fulfill themselves?

I wonder how many stores have been looted from this fire? Anyone who's there confirm this?

No stores have been looted as far as from what i've seen or heard

[hollinator]

It's interesting to me the people making comments. I wonder how many of you have ever been in an emergency situation such as these? Having grown up in SoCal the fires are devastating - always have been and always will be. Think about it. We're talking hundreds of thousands of acres destroyed. So far, we are at about a billion dollars in damage. This has nothing to do with how rich or poor you are. If you knew anything about San Diego or Canyon Country or any of the other places, MOST of the people are hard working, blue collar, or middle class people. It is not cheap in any situation to replace everything in your household. It's even worse to helplessly sit by and watch your house go up in flames as some people have done.

You can't compare them except that both are equally devastating...

:o(

[will76]

Originally Posted by Bdiddy

If the US military could drop supplies in West Berlin during the 1960's, this could have been done.

yes but did that organize that from idea to completion in 48 hours

We put a man on the moon too, but we didnt do it in a couple days.

not that I think it is any excuse for the govt not getting her quicker but i think your analogy it bad. It wasn't the act of doing it, it was the time frame that was the problem.

[will76]

Originally Posted by hollinator

It's interesting to me the people making comments. I wonder how many of you have ever been in an emergency situation such as these? Having grown up in SoCal the fires are devastating - always have been and always will be. Think about it. We're talking hundreds of thousands of acres destroyed. So far, we are at about a billion dollars in damage. This has nothing to do with how rich or poor you are. If you knew anything about San Diego or Canyon Country or any of the other places, MOST of the people are hard working, blue collar, or middle class people. It is not cheap in any situation to replace everything in your household. It's even worse to helplessly sit by and watch your house go up in flames as some people have done.

You can't compare the except that both are equally devastating...

:o(

equally devastating.... property loss = 1,000s dead.


how stupid can you people be.

[ultimatebbwdotcom]

Bush also knew that with Katrina there was no risk of Arnie driving a truck through the walls of the white house firing an uzi.....now there is.

[hollinator]

As stupid as you are, will, for continuing to make comments on subjects you know nothing about and have never lived through...???

Funny - comment all you want. You're only making an ass of yourself.

As I said - both are devastating... Never said they were the same...

[will76]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Rock

No stores have been looted as far as from what i've seen or heard

as long as people have availability to food and water I wouldn't expect any stores to be looted. So these people in SD can get in their car, drive 30 miles to a restaurant and eat or to a grocery store, get food and stay with a relative or in a hotel.

People in New orleans, couldn't leave, they were stuck on roof tops for days, wadded through water and looted to get food and water. Sure there was some exceptions of idiots stealing clothes and non essential stuff. There is idiots in every location, look at the LA Riots for an example near you of idiots. Or what about the F5 tornado that destroyed that midwest town last spring, the locals were looting other people's destroyed houses... bad apples everywhere, lots of ignornat people here who don't know the difference.

[will76]

Originally Posted by hollinator

As stupid as you are, will, for continuing to make comments on subjects you know nothing about and have never lived through...???

Funny - comment all you want. You're only making an ass of yourself.

As I said - both are devastating... Never said they were the same...

If you would have just said "devastating" i wouldn't be arguing with you. but you said "

Originally Posted by hollinator

You can't compare them except that both are equally devastating...

:o(

equally devasting... and that is what makes you a moron for trying to say that they were both as devastating. How many people have died in SD so far? How many homes destroyed. Over 1000 people died here and over 100K homes destroyed.

Equally LOL fucking idiot.

and i lived through Katrina, was close to the city and lost property in it. I stayed here for the hurricane and was without power for 30 days. I was very close to it, so dont tell me i didnt live through it.

[Brother Bilo]

Originally Posted by will76

Evacuated does not equal stranded.


You guys are really fucking ignorant. Evacuated doesn't mean shit. What happened in New Orleans was because people were stranded with out living necessities nor any type of law or order... for days.

Try this for a fair scenero, how do you think the people would act if they couldnt evacuate their neighborhoods, the fire was blocks away and moving at them and they were stuck their for days with no food, water, police to maintain order etc... do you think they would be finger painting then.

fucking morons.

You act like the people of New Orleans weren't ordered or urged to evacuate and the storm just appeared out of nowhere on top of them. People of New Orleans were given more notice than the people of California, its just the people in California have enough sense to leave.

The whole argument of being too poor to leave or having nowhere to go doesn't make sense to me either. Catch a bus, find your friend who has a car, drive your own car, for christ sakes, go camping. Fuck, I do that for fun. The people who were trapped in New Orleans choose not to leave. Not that I think what happened to them was justified or anything, in fact I think it's really sad. But the fact that they were warned and told exactly what was going to happen weeks before it hit means they either didn't believe it or didn't care.

I know if the weather service and local government told us that a hurricane was going to hit Phoenix with the force of Katrina, I sure as shit wouldn't hang around to see what happens, especially if I had children.

[hollinator]

Originally Posted by will76

If you would have just said "devastating" i wouldn't be arguing with you. but you said "

equally devasting... and that is what makes you a moron for trying to say that they were both as devastating. How many people have died in SD so far? How many homes destroyed. Over 1000 people died here and over 100K homes destroyed.

Equally LOL fucking idiot.

and i lived through Katrina, was close to the city and lost property in it. I stayed here for the hurricane and was without power for 30 days. I was very close to it, so dont tell me i didnt live through it.

Sure thing, Will. Whatever you say. You're sad really when you'd rather come in a thread like this and belittle people. You're what's wrong with the world.

We all have lived through some sort of devastation. Yes, some recognize the impact, some don't. Lots of people go through life with blinders on. It's not your job to police it though, but you seem to have taken on that roll, so feel free. I know you're going to comment again... It obviously makes you feel better or more superior or whatever...

[escorpio]

Originally Posted by will76

...but those people did not act like animals.

Yes, they did act like animals. The press in the U.S. was afraid to tell the real story for fear of the usual "that be racist!" bullshit. If you wanted to know what was really going on you needed to look to foreign press.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/...302782219.html

[sortie]

Originally Posted by Brother Bilo

You act like the people of New Orleans weren't ordered or urged to evacuate and the storm just appeared out of nowhere on top of them. People of New Orleans were given more notice than the people of California, its just the people in California have enough sense to leave.

The whole argument of being too poor to leave or having nowhere to go doesn't make sense to me either. Catch a bus, find your friend who has a car, drive your own car, for christ sakes, go camping. Fuck, I do that for fun. The people who were trapped in New Orleans choose not to leave. Not that I think what happened to them was justified or anything, in fact I think it's really sad. But the fact that they were warned and told exactly what was going to happen weeks before it hit means they either didn't believe it or didn't care.

I know if the weather service and local government told us that a hurricane was going to hit Phoenix with the force of Katrina, I sure as shit wouldn't hang around to see what happens, especially if I had children.

Here is a true story of some of the people who tried to leave:

http://gretnasucks.com/


You are a great "arm chair leader"; the events on the ground don't seem to sink into your head.

Where the fuck do poor people go???

The huricane warning was for all neighboring states!!
Were they suposed to walk to Oklahoma or something???

Catch a bus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, find one that's not already packed to the fucking gills!!

And finally, the people who stayed were actually correct because the huricane totaly missed them. The huricane hit in the next state and flooded the river there know as the Fucking Mississippi River. The river then flowed back to Louisana and flooded the place after the levees broke.
There would have been no disaster what-so-ever in New Orleans if the levees had held like they were built to.

The people who fled Louisana and went to Mississpppi got hit by the fucking storm. Meaning that some of them simply fled to their deaths.

[Az A Bay Bay]

thts just all fucked up....
"(

[Brother Bilo]

Originally Posted by sortie

Maybe fulfillment is for those who seek to be fulfilled to justify their own feelings.

Originally Posted by sortie

I'd say that if you saw two turds on the ground you would swear that one of them was from a white person because it stunk less.

I was just making an observation, nothing more. What happened in New Orleans when the storm was over? What happened in LA when Rodney King happened?

I was just an observation as to how certain people react to similar situations. Nothing more. Read into it how you like, but I know how I feel.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by sortie

Great comparison. A few homes burned down and only three roads closed and it's equivalent to Katrina.

Wow . . . have you followed things after the first two or three hours?

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Brother Bilo

You act like the people of New Orleans weren't ordered or urged to evacuate and the storm just appeared out of nowhere on top of them. People of New Orleans were given more notice than the people of California, its just the people in California have enough sense to leave.

The whole argument of being too poor to leave or having nowhere to go doesn't make sense to me either. Catch a bus, find your friend who has a car, drive your own car, for christ sakes, go camping. Fuck, I do that for fun. The people who were trapped in New Orleans choose not to leave. Not that I think what happened to them was justified or anything, in fact I think it's really sad. But the fact that they were warned and told exactly what was going to happen weeks before it hit means they either didn't believe it or didn't care.

I know if the weather service and local government told us that a hurricane was going to hit Phoenix with the force of Katrina, I sure as shit wouldn't hang around to see what happens, especially if I had children.

I am only quoting you because Will has been on ignore for a very long time.

The people of N.O. had plenty of time to evacuate, but they did not.

The people of CA had minutes.