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$5 submissions · 11-16-2007, 03:14 PM

Here's some helpful tips from one of the UBERPIMPS of online marketing, Seth Godin: http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_b...-create-1.html

His advice applies to most types of sites. In particular, the following apply well to adult and gaming sites:

6. Measure. If you?re not improving, if the yield is negative... kill it.

7. Insight is good, clever is bad. Many websites say, ?look at me.? Your goal ought to be to say, ?here?s what you were looking for.?

ClickBuster · 11-16-2007, 03:36 PM

Good read, I always appreciate your threads, always something useful in them

keep it up. I personally liked

1. Fire the committee. No great website in history has been conceived of by more than three people. Not one. This is a dealbreaker.

8. If you hire a professional: hire a great one. The best one. Let her do her job. 10 mediocre website consultants working in perfect harmony can?t do the work of one rock star.

$5 submissions · 11-16-2007, 05:07 PM

This article reminds me that webmasters normally are faced with a TOUGH DECISION: do you do a FEW high quality/attention-heavy sites or do you do TONS of "build it and forget it" sites.

This is a tough question because there's always the fear of putting all your eggs in a few baskets using the former option above. However, if you FOCUS on your sites and LISTEN to your visitors/get them to help you address their concerns, your site could be more productive. On the other hand, building cookie cutter/semi-automated sites hundreds if not thousands of times would be a good way to find out what works, how it works, and finetune and replicate.

There's probably no right or wrong answer. The answer just might depend on how well you listen to and process the feedback that your site's stats are giving you.

CurrentlySober · 11-16-2007, 06:19 PM

"Many websites say, “look at me.” Your goal ought to be to say, “here’s what you were looking for.”

How true is that!

VicD · 11-16-2007, 06:27 PM

do people here make websites

$5 submissions · 11-16-2007, 07:18 PM

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do people here make websites

Quite a few. There's a few that harvest traffic. Others are arbitrageurs. But MOST, I'm sure, conduct their online biz through websites

StuartD · 11-16-2007, 07:27 PM

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Quite a few. There's a few that harvest traffic. Others are arbitrageurs. But MOST, I'm sure, conduct their online biz through websites

Not me.

IllTestYourGirls · 11-16-2007, 07:45 PM

That is something I have been struggling with since I started. Both can make you money, but I think listening and doing is much easier than cookie cutter.

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions

This article reminds me that webmasters normally are faced with a TOUGH DECISION: do you do a FEW high quality/attention-heavy sites or do you do TONS of "build it and forget it" sites.

This is a tough question because there's always the fear of putting all your eggs in a few baskets using the former option above. However, if you FOCUS on your sites and LISTEN to your visitors/get them to help you address their concerns, your site could be more productive. On the other hand, building cookie cutter/semi-automated sites hundreds if not thousands of times would be a good way to find out what works, how it works, and finetune and replicate.

There's probably no right or wrong answer. The answer just might depend on how well you listen to and process the feedback that your site's stats are giving you.

$5 submissions · 11-19-2007, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

That is something I have been struggling with since I started. Both can make you money, but I think listening and doing is much easier than cookie cutter.

Yeah. I tend to agree with you. VOLUME sites require a lot of automation. Automation = (usually) crappier attention to what the customer needs. My next step with my network would probably to convert them to more social media-centric sites.

kovacs · 11-19-2007, 02:41 PM

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This article reminds me that webmasters normally are faced with a TOUGH DECISION: do you do a FEW high quality/attention-heavy sites or do you do TONS of "build it and forget it" sites.

I think Google's new focus on trust and authority rewards building large, comprehensive sites that provide a great user experience... It's too difficult to differentiate cookie cutter (but legit) sites from spam.

$5 submissions · 11-20-2007, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kovacs

I think Google's new focus on trust and authority rewards building large, comprehensive sites that provide a great user experience... It's too difficult to differentiate cookie cutter (but legit) sites from spam.

True. Although RSS and some content customization tools are making some real nice "original" cookie cutter sites possible.

Amputate Your Head · 11-20-2007, 07:24 PM

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7. Insight is good, clever is bad. Many websites say, ?look at me.? Your goal ought to be to say, ?here?s what you were looking for.?

You're dead on...

I used to do sites like that.... look at my Adult.com sites.... they're screaming "Look at me!"

Now I produce with the "Yeah... you fucking found it!" feel.

Works MUCH better.

tony286 · 11-20-2007, 07:58 PM

Ive read two of his books, thanks for the link.

V_RocKs · 11-20-2007, 08:05 PM

To hire all of my friends or not to hire all of my friends.... That is the question...

$5 submissions · 11-20-2007, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ClickBuster

Good read, I always appreciate your threads, always something useful in them

keep it up.

Thanks, bro!

CunningStunt · 11-20-2007, 08:44 PM

Great post $5 submissions. Bookmarked.

blogman9 · 11-21-2007, 12:32 AM

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sandman! · 11-21-2007, 01:34 AM

some nice ideas in there.

yahoo-xxx-girls.com · 11-21-2007, 03:32 AM

Good post $5 submissions.

Bump...

don_chelle · 11-21-2007, 04:13 AM

this thread made me think... a nice read though!

$5 submissions · 11-22-2007, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Now I produce with the "Yeah... you fucking found it!" feel.

Works MUCH better.

Yep, niche relevance and graphical cues re niche relevance/authority are KEY.

Xrated J · 11-22-2007, 02:22 PM

good read.

11-16-2007, 03:14 PM	#1
$5 submissions I help you SUCCEED Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Pearl of the Orient Seas Posts: 32,195	How to create a GREAT website Here's some helpful tips from one of the UBERPIMPS of online marketing, Seth Godin: http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_b...-create-1.html His advice applies to most types of sites. In particular, the following apply well to adult and gaming sites: 6. Measure. If you?re not improving, if the yield is negative... kill it. 7. Insight is good, clever is bad. Many websites say, ?look at me.? Your goal ought to be to say, ?here?s what you were looking for.? __________________ Need a NON-ADULT income stream? We build your YOUTUBE CHANNEL for only $20 per video! For Hire: $3/hour or $400 per month Marketing Specialist Virtual Assistants

11-16-2007, 03:36 PM	#2
ClickBuster Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 210	Good read, I always appreciate your threads, always something useful in them keep it up. I personally liked 1. Fire the committee. No great website in history has been conceived of by more than three people. Not one. This is a dealbreaker. 8. If you hire a professional: hire a great one. The best one. Let her do her job. 10 mediocre website consultants working in perfect harmony can?t do the work of one rock star. __________________ -- ClickBuster -- ICQ# 263653704 -- Email: clickbuster1 [-at-] gmail [-dot-] com

11-16-2007, 05:07 PM	#3
$5 submissions I help you SUCCEED Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Pearl of the Orient Seas Posts: 32,195	This article reminds me that webmasters normally are faced with a TOUGH DECISION: do you do a FEW high quality/attention-heavy sites or do you do TONS of "build it and forget it" sites. This is a tough question because there's always the fear of putting all your eggs in a few baskets using the former option above. However, if you FOCUS on your sites and LISTEN to your visitors/get them to help you address their concerns, your site could be more productive. On the other hand, building cookie cutter/semi-automated sites hundreds if not thousands of times would be a good way to find out what works, how it works, and finetune and replicate. There's probably no right or wrong answer. The answer just might depend on how well you listen to and process the feedback that your site's stats are giving you. __________________ Need a NON-ADULT income stream? We build your YOUTUBE CHANNEL for only $20 per video! For Hire: $3/hour or $400 per month Marketing Specialist Virtual Assistants

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11-16-2007, 06:27 PM	#5
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11-20-2007, 07:58 PM	#13
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	Ive read two of his books, thanks for the link.

11-20-2007, 08:05 PM	#14
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11-20-2007, 08:44 PM	#16
CunningStunt Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,594	Great post $5 submissions. Bookmarked.

11-21-2007, 12:32 AM	#17
blogman9 Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,261	Good thread, added to: There is no money in porn

11-21-2007, 03:32 AM	#19
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11-21-2007, 04:13 AM	#20
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11-22-2007, 02:22 PM	#22
Xrated J Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Daytona Beach Posts: 4,347	good read.