TGP Webmasters.. Make $10,500 in 3 days...

[~Ray]

Hello,

It seems that SumbitPasses/GTS is trying to monopolize who can and cannot obtain submit passes to most of the large tgp's.

fine, good for them.

However, if you also offer submit passes outside of their service, then you may be interested in this.

If you offer submit passes in 3 month blocks and are modern enough to take recurring epassporte or pay pal payments then,

Here's my math:

if you offer a monthly submit pass for $35 and you sell 3 month blocks, that would be 3 X $35 = $105

so if you post your contact info here, I am betting you will sell 100 passes over the next 3 days.

(lots of honest people dislike, distrust and won't use submitpasses/gts)

100 new passes X $105 = $10,500 made in about 3 days

If your passes cost more, then you will make more and deservingly so.

Your friend,
~Ray
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[Diligent]

GOOD initiative man!!!

I'll bump this if it goes stale.. i'm a firm believer in doing GOOD business, rather than greedy business, when talking community shared marketing structures..

[crockett]

That's only $3,300 a month. Might be 10k in one lump some, but still not much on the monthly end and that's assuming you could sell 100 @ 105.00

[fris]

you can still buy from gts sites, just go directly to the owners. going through a middle man sucks, plus i could care less what mark and sarah the king and queen douchebags of trash town canada say about it

[BoyAlley]

Lol as if there are 100 people that read GFY that have an extra $35 a month to spend on anything.

[WiredGuy]

That's $10,500 in 3 months, not 3 days.
WG

[georgeyw]

Originally Posted by Fris

you can still buy from gts sites, just go directly to the owners. going through a middle man sucks, plus i could care less what mark and sarah the king and queen douchebags of trash town canada say about it

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Agreed

[~Ray]

Originally Posted by crockett

That's only $3,300 a month. Might be 10k in one lump some, but still not much on the monthly end and that's assuming you could sell 100 @ 105.00

that's in addition to the income by submitpasses/gts

[~Ray]

Originally Posted by Diligent

GOOD initiative man!!!

I'll bump this if it goes stale.. i'm a firm believer in doing GOOD business, rather than greedy business, when talking community shared marketing structures..

thanks. It's always nice to have more than one option in this business.

[Ross]

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

That's $10,500 in 3 months, not 3 days.
WG

Technically it is 3 days. If you sold 100 passes within three days then you earn the money in the period stated. I know what you mean tho, its 3 months worth of revenue in 3 days.

I don't mind buying from Submit Passes, most of the prices are fair and the passes make the money back. I just really wish they would get some new sites in their to get more fresh traffic.

[Tralfamadorian]

Originally Posted by Ross

Technically it is 3 days. If you sold 100 passes within three days then you earn the money in the period stated. I know what you mean tho, its 3 months worth of revenue in 3 days.

Technically it is 3 months, any accountant will tell you that. You can't book the revenue until the service has been provided which happens during the end of each month of the block sold. Sports teams that sell season tickets don't book a lump sum when they sell a ticket package but rather book a fraction of the total after the end of each game in that package.

[Broda]

Originally Posted by Tralfamadorian

Technically it is 3 months, any accountant will tell you that. You can't book the revenue until the service has been provided which happens during the end of each month of the block sold. Sports teams that sell season tickets don't book a lump sum when they sell a ticket package but rather book a fraction of the total after the end of each game in that package.

Obviously, that depends on their accounting practices. And, is probably based more on a tax-perspective than anything else.

[~Ray]

Originally Posted by Tralfamadorian

Technically it is 3 months, any accountant will tell you that. You can't book the revenue until the service has been provided which happens during the end of each month of the block sold. Sports teams that sell season tickets don't book a lump sum when they sell a ticket package but rather book a fraction of the total after the end of each game in that package.

how is Austin now-a-days? Have you been to The Gristmill in Gruene yet? They had nice wings back in 1995-96

~Ray

[blogman9]

Congratulations! You are on the first page: http://www.thereisnomoneyinporn.com

[candyflip]

I have been going around GTS for almost a year now. Got tired of jumping through hoops and dealing with shitty customer service...so I just cancelled and now purchase the few passes that matter directly from the site owners.

Fuck those assholes.

[~Ray]

Originally Posted by blogman9

Congratulations! You are on the first page: http://www.thereisnomoneyinporn.com

do I win a whistle or a similar shiney metal-like object?

[Dirty F]

There are a FEW passes at GTS that are worth the money and they are always, ofcourse, sold out. The rest is crap and actually pretty close to scamming the fuck out of you. Most of the passes there CAN NOT, read again, CAN NOT even give you the traffic you need to make 1 or 2 sales. No matter what gallery or content (they will always give you the your gallery sucks excuse). Plus i think Mark and his bitch gave a pretty good reason why not to deal with trash like them on gfy half a year ago.

As others said: Contact tgp owners directly. Most of them are happy to sell you spots or passes. For a decent price instead of what those idiots at GTS charge.

[~Ray]

those cat threads messed up the order of things

[~Ray]

Originally Posted by Dirty Franck

Plus i think Mark and his bitch gave a pretty good reason why not to deal with trash like them on gfy half a year ago.

As others said: Contact tgp owners directly. Most of them are happy to sell you spots or passes. For a decent price instead of what those idiots at GTS charge.

Matt cancelled my account when we argued over a webmaster trying to scam me.

So if you use submitpasses/GTS , you need to keep your mouth shut if you have a problem, or Matt will cancel your account.

Fuck that.. right?

~Ray

totally agree Ray

[xNetworx]

GTS is a rip-off

[~Ray]

bump for mid week business.

~Ray

[axelez]

Originally Posted by AdvertisingSex

So if you use submitpasses/GTS , you need to keep your mouth shut if you have a problem, or Matt will cancel your account.

[BradM]

We bought traffic from GTS on a few different occasions because we buy a lot of traffic for in house campaigns. We have amazing results with Cybercat so we figured why not, plus Steve AKA Magnus is a great guy.

We spent I think just over 2k and got 60-70 clicks a day on our banners for 3 weeks before I finally pulled and got a small refund. So we paid $1 per click for total crap foreign traffic that got about 1.12 PV. It wasn't ANY fault of the sales rep, it was the fault of the company for charging bullshit prices for crap traffic. Needless to say, that on top of the owners FREQUENT complete and total mental breakdowns, we are not going near those guys again. I'll just put the $ in a 3% savings CD.

[Shaze]

I don't see how a site like that would be successful anyway, because smart webmasters would just check out what is offered on the site and then contact the website directly instead of going through them.

[fris]

I heard they actually use P2P traffic to feed some of the sites with crap traffic and fudge numbers to increase the value of the sale on less popular sites

[~Ray]

Originally Posted by Shaze

I don't see how a site like that would be successful anyway, because smart webmasters would just check out what is offered on the site and then contact the website directly instead of going through them.

they were hoping they could set the tgp advertising industry prices using a flawed business philosophy

[Magnus]

Rey, listen to homeboy above, he said you should contact the site owners directly, they are more than happy to sell you passes.
...........Oh yeah you did, it did'nt work out for you but you hit Matt up to resolve an issue he had nothing to do with.

Fight the power!

[RyuLion]

Originally Posted by Magnus

Rey, listen to homeboy above, he said you should contact the site owners directly, they are more than happy to sell you passes.
...........Oh yeah you did, it did'nt work out for you but you hit Matt up to resolve an issue he had nothing to do with.

Fight the power!

[Elixir]

TGP Webmasters.. Make $10,500 in 3 days...


LOL

[GTS Mark]

Alright well I was going to stay away from this one, but I can't let this slide because it's so much made up bullshit I can't even believe it.

Ray I contacted you last week several times to talk about your problems with Submitpasses. You went on some crazy rant about how Matt from Submitpasses fucked you over on a pass? I offered to help you (even though Matt told me you tried to screw us over by going around us to the site owner to buy a pass). I even offered to get you the pass back FOR FREE!!!! So i don't know why you have such a hardon for us, all I am trying to do is help you and all you are doing is spilling hatred and bullshit on us for no reason that I can see.

Fris/Seriousbusiness or whatever you call your drugged up fatboy suicidal ass these days, you are full of fucking shit about your p2p comment, please post proof. There is no proof because we have never sent one HIT of p2p traffic to any tgp properties we own or manage.

DH

[RyuLion]

Originally Posted by DrinkingHARDEST

Alright well I was going to stay away from this one, but I can't let this slide because it's so much made up bullshit I can't even believe it.

Ray I contacted you last week several times to talk about your problems with Submitpasses. You went on some crazy rant about how Matt from Submitpasses fucked you over on a pass? I offered to help you (even though Matt told me you tried to screw us over by going around us to the site owner to buy a pass). I even offered to get you the pass back FOR FREE!!!! So i don't know why you have such a hardon for us, all I am trying to do is help you and all you are doing is spilling hatred and bullshit on us for no reason that I can see.

Fris/Seriousbusiness or whatever you call your drugged up fatboy suicidal ass these days, you are full of fucking shit about your p2p comment, please post proof. There is no proof because we have never sent one HIT of p2p traffic to any tgp properties we own or manage.

DH

You tell him Bro!

[candyflip]

Originally Posted by DrinkingHARDEST

Alright well I was going to stay away from this one, but I can't let this slide because it's so much made up bullshit I can't even believe it.

Ray I contacted you last week several times to talk about your problems with Submitpasses. You went on some crazy rant about how Matt from Submitpasses fucked you over on a pass? I offered to help you (even though Matt told me you tried to screw us over by going around us to the site owner to buy a pass). I even offered to get you the pass back FOR FREE!!!! So i don't know why you have such a hardon for us, all I am trying to do is help you and all you are doing is spilling hatred and bullshit on us for no reason that I can see.

Fris/Seriousbusiness or whatever you call your drugged up fatboy suicidal ass these days, you are full of fucking shit about your p2p comment, please post proof. There is no proof because we have never sent one HIT of p2p traffic to any tgp properties we own or manage.

DH

Almost like that bullshit you made up to drag an innocent program through the mud. Funny you don't show your face here much anymore since then.

[Snake Doctor]

Wow there sure is alot of hate for GTS out there.....I don't understand it.

Just because you bought a pass or bought a spot and didn't make your money back doesn't mean someone ripped you off. I've lost money on google adwords campaigns before, does that mean google ripped me off?

Also I know that DH is smart enough to have a contract with his site owners that says they're not going to sell spots/passes on the side to cut GTS out of the deal. If they do they're probably violating their contract and GTS could drop them....and I can assure you these site owners are making ALOT more money with GTS than they were before....they're not gonna risk that just to get a couple bucks a month from you.

[~Ray]

Originally Posted by DrinkingHARDEST

Alright well I was going to stay away from this one, but I can't let this slide because it's so much made up bullshit I can't even believe it.



DH

you said I made up shit... yet, like your other threads, you don't support your claims. what did I make up big fella?

[Fluid]

Originally Posted by Snake Doctor

Wow there sure is alot of hate for GTS out there.....I don't understand it.

Just because you bought a pass or bought a spot and didn't make your money back doesn't mean someone ripped you off. I've lost money on google adwords campaigns before, does that mean google ripped me off?

Also I know that DH is smart enough to have a contract with his site owners that says they're not going to sell spots/passes on the side to cut GTS out of the deal. If they do they're probably violating their contract and GTS could drop them....and I can assure you these site owners are making ALOT more money with GTS than they were before....they're not gonna risk that just to get a couple bucks a month from you.

Spoken like a true scholar and a gentleman

[the Shemp]

sig spot ...

[~Ray]

Originally Posted by Snake Doctor

Wow there sure is alot of hate for GTS out there.....I don't understand it.

Just because you bought a pass or bought a spot and didn't make your money back doesn't mean someone ripped you off. I've lost money on google adwords campaigns before, does that mean google ripped me off?

Also I know that DH is smart enough to have a contract with his site owners that says they're not going to sell spots/passes on the side to cut GTS out of the deal. If they do they're probably violating their contract and GTS could drop them....and I can assure you these site owners are making ALOT more money with GTS than they were before....they're not gonna risk that just to get a couple bucks a month from you.

you don't know what you are talking about...

I bought a pass, logged in, once inside, I didn't have access to the tgp I bought a pass from.. yet in big red letters was a website I was told to visit to buy a pass. on that page, it was trashing submitpasses and offering a pass for $75 to fucksake , so I paid the $75 and asked submitpasses for my money back. once they heard why I wanted my money back, they went to that webmaster AGAIN, and told him AGAIN to take that page down.. which he did.. and he also kept my $75. Matt from gts/submitpasses did nothing to help me get that $75 back. He didn't care if a gts/submitpasses webmaster he had enabled was scamming people using submitpasses/gts as a webmaster funnel.

I never should have been told to pay an additional $75 and matt was aware of that webmasters setup the whole time.


Now, if you go to the buy/sell forum, you will see fucksake for sale for $1700 , so your assumation that all of those webmasters make big bucks from gts/submitpass doesn't hold water either.


now you are up-to-date

~Ray

[GTS Mark]

Originally Posted by candyflip

Almost like that bullshit you made up to drag an innocent program through the mud. Funny you don't show your face here much anymore since then.

Who are you again? That's right who fucking cares.

DH

[GTS Mark]

Originally Posted by AdvertisingSex

you said I made up shit... yet, like your other threads, you don't support your claims. what did I make up big fella?

Dude, why don't you instant message me right now and let's get this worked out. How does that sound?

DH

[GTS Mark]

Originally Posted by AdvertisingSex

you don't know what you are talking about...

I bought a pass, logged in, once inside, I didn't have access to the tgp I bought a pass from.. yet in big red letters was a website I was told to visit to buy a pass. on that page, it was trashing submitpasses and offering a pass for $75 to fucksake , so I paid the $75 and asked submitpasses for my money back. once they heard why I wanted my money back, they went to that webmaster AGAIN, and told him AGAIN to take that page down.. which he did.. and he also kept my $75. Matt from gts/submitpasses did nothing to help me get that $75 back. He didn't care if a gts/submitpasses webmaster he had enabled was scamming people using submitpasses/gts as a webmaster funnel.

I never should have been told to pay an additional $75 and matt was aware of that webmasters setup the whole time.


Now, if you go to the buy/sell forum, you will see fucksake for sale for $1700 , so your assumation that all of those webmasters make big bucks from gts/submitpass doesn't hold water either.


now you are up-to-date

~Ray

Ok more details please. When did you buy it? Did you buy it from us or fucksakes? Did you pay us for fucksakes?

If you paid us, i have no problem with giving you your $75 back.

Why not just message me right now and I will get this sorted for you?

DH



DH

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by DrinkingHARDEST

Fris/Seriousbusiness or whatever you call your drugged up fatboy suicidal ass these days, you are full of fucking shit about your p2p comment,

DH

Youre not in a position to call anyone drugged up you fucking mental case! You and your cunt wife are 2 of the most instable fantasy world crack smoking idiots i know off. Mr "internet mafia"

Becareful AdvertisingSex, one more post and Mark will snap again and when he does that he instantly flies to this secret place in his head where he thinks he owns the internet and he will go Tony Montana on your ass

Mark doesnt like negative comments - it will make him go koo koo. And the fact that you brought him out of his hiding after his last business suicide here means a lot. Hes about to do it again. Which can be a lot of fun actually. Its nice to see him having a meltdown like that. Its what scum deserves.

[Quagmire]

Originally Posted by AdvertisingSex

you don't know what you are talking about...

I bought a pass, logged in, once inside, I didn't have access to the tgp I bought a pass from.. yet in big red letters was a website I was told to visit to buy a pass. on that page, it was trashing submitpasses and offering a pass for $75 to fucksake , so I paid the $75 and asked submitpasses for my money back. once they heard why I wanted my money back, they went to that webmaster AGAIN, and told him AGAIN to take that page down.. which he did.. and he also kept my $75. Matt from gts/submitpasses did nothing to help me get that $75 back. He didn't care if a gts/submitpasses webmaster he had enabled was scamming people using submitpasses/gts as a webmaster funnel.

I never should have been told to pay an additional $75 and matt was aware of that webmasters setup the whole time.


Now, if you go to the buy/sell forum, you will see fucksake for sale for $1700 , so your assumation that all of those webmasters make big bucks from gts/submitpass doesn't hold water either.


now you are up-to-date

~Ray

You know Ray, if you're going to make wild and crazy accusations can you at the very least get the site name right? You're dragging Danny's name through the mud when Fucksakes had absolutely nothing to do with your alleged problem.

You claim to have been ripped off by the site owner of perfectgirls, not fuck sakes. And when I told you that the ePassporte address you sent money to didn't even belong to the site owner of perfectgirls you started accusing ME of being involved in some sort of scam and how I went to that site owner's boat, blah blah blah meltdown.

Your whole idea of going around Submitpasses to buy passes blew up in your face when you allegedly got ripped off. You wanted me to stop dealing with a site owner for allegedly ripping you off when you did not provide a single shred of proof that it happened.

I have never ripped a single person off, and Submitpasses will offer credits and refunds when something goes wrong with a pass purchased through our system.

I avoid drama and trolls, and have many large and small clients through Submitpasses who I help on a daily basis with problems they have with their passes. I have a solid reputation and your wildly false claims do absolutely nothing to tarnish it.

[~Ray]

it was perfectgirls , not fucksake.. actually fucksake is a good deal at around $1500

~Ray

[GTS Mark]

Originally Posted by Snake Doctor

Wow there sure is alot of hate for GTS out there.....I don't understand it.

Just because you bought a pass or bought a spot and didn't make your money back doesn't mean someone ripped you off. I've lost money on google adwords campaigns before, does that mean google ripped me off?

Also I know that DH is smart enough to have a contract with his site owners that says they're not going to sell spots/passes on the side to cut GTS out of the deal. If they do they're probably violating their contract and GTS could drop them....and I can assure you these site owners are making ALOT more money with GTS than they were before....they're not gonna risk that just to get a couple bucks a month from you.

Thanks Snake Doctor, we try and help every client make money from our traffic. I wish every single client could make a profit but in reality it's just not the case. It's hit or miss, sometimes you make a bundle and sometimes you loose a bundle. It's no different from adwords, etology, adbrite, fpctraffic... We price what the market can bare and whenever we can we try to save our adbuyers a few bucks along the way.

We have been in business 4 years (as of Dec 1, 2007), have over 20 employees and have way over 100 sites we manage and sell inventory on I am proud to say. We've come along way from our humble beginnings.

Thanks for your comments,
DH

DH

[candyflip]

Originally Posted by DrinkingHARDEST

Who are you again? That's right who fucking cares.

DH

A former client who thinks you and your wife are shitstains.

[Waldman]

cool tgps never sell passes, they accept posters with exlusive content..

[~Ray]

Originally Posted by Quagmire

You know Ray, if you're going to make wild and crazy accusations can you at the very least get the site name right? You're dragging Danny's name through the mud when Fucksakes had absolutely nothing to do with your alleged problem.

You claim to have been ripped off by the site owner of perfectgirls, not fuck sakes. And when I told you that the ePassporte address you sent money to didn't even belong to the site owner of perfectgirls you started accusing ME of being involved in some sort of scam and how I went to that site owner's boat, blah blah blah meltdown.

Your whole idea of going around Submitpasses to buy passes blew up in your face when you allegedly got ripped off. You wanted me to stop dealing with a site owner for allegedly ripping you off when you did not provide a single shred of proof that it happened.

I have never ripped a single person off, and Submitpasses will offer credits and refunds when something goes wrong with a pass purchased through our system.

I avoid drama and trolls, and have many large and small clients through Submitpasses who I help on a daily basis with problems they have with their passes. I have a solid reputation and your wildly false claims do absolutely nothing to tarnish it.

did you not see the big red text in their submit area pointing to lonmeniches or something like that? it was trashing your business... wasn't it you who had him take that out of his submit area?

so how are you innocent to this?

~Ray

[GTS Mark]

Originally Posted by Dirty Franck

Youre not in a position to call anyone drugged up you fucking mental case! You and your cunt wife are 2 of the most instable fantasy world crack smoking idiots i know off. Mr "internet mafia"

Becareful AdvertisingSex, one more post and Mark will snap again and when he does that he instantly flies to this secret place in his head where he thinks he owns the internet and he will go Tony Montana on your ass

Mark doesnt like negative comments - it will make him go koo koo. And the fact that you brought him out of his hiding after his last business suicide here means a lot. Hes about to do it again. Which can be a lot of fun actually. Its nice to see him having a meltdown like that. Its what scum deserves.

And you're a broke ass affiliate who's only source of revenue is his signature on GFY. Oh that's right I got that cut off didn't I francky?

What have you ever done in this industry Franck? Oh that's right nothing...

I have built a multi-million dollar ad business and do business daily with the top guys in the industry. Who do you network with BradM, Seriousbusiness and some other trolls.

Have a nice day buddy, keep shooting for the stars!!!

DH

[Dirty F]

Originally Posted by DrinkingHARDEST

Thanks Snake Doctor, we try and help every client make money from our traffic. I wish every single client could make a profit but in reality it's just not the case. It's hit or miss, sometimes you make a bundle and sometimes you loose a bundle. It's no different from adwords, etology, adbrite, fpctraffic... We price what the market can bare and whenever we can we try to save our adbuyers a few bucks along the way.

We have been in business 4 years (as of Dec 1, 2007), have over 20 employees and have way over 100 sites we manage and sell inventory on I am proud to say. We've come along way from our humble beginnings.

Thanks for your comments,
DH

DH

Damn, i'm just too late. I was just about to post that your next post would be how "big" you are. God, you are so predictable and pathetic.