Best Affiliate Software?

[elitegirls]

Hey guys,

please spam me with affiliate software solutions.
Mainstream affiliate managing tools and out of the box shizzl prefered!

let's go!

[elitegirls]

Post Affiliate Pro - opinions on that one?

[dozey]

Completely outdated and a horror to work with

[TMM_John]

There is no other affiliate solution that compares to what NATS is capable of. I suggest you take a demo of all of the systems out there, guided on the phone if they offer it, and compare them. The answer will be obvious.

[justsexxx]

www.mpa3.com and nats

[webmasterchecks]

mpa3
nats
executivestats
x3scripts

all good programs you should check out

[OY]

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn

There is no other affiliate solution that compares to what NATS is capable of. I suggest you take a demo of all of the systems out there, guided on the phone if they offer it, and compare them. The answer will be obvious.

I disagree with the first statement but agree with the last one!

Ill guide you through the process of exploring the industry leader MPA3

Here is a link to check out the latest version 2 or MPA3 that is currently in beta:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=788601

Enjoy and look forward to showing you all the goodies.

[TMM_John]

Originally Posted by Oystein

I disagree with the first statement but agree with the last one!

Ill guide you through the process of exploring the industry leader MPA3

Here is a link to check out the latest version 2 or MPA3 that is currently in beta:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=788601

Enjoy and look forward to showing you all the goodies.

I don't see how you can claim to be "the industry leader". Our product has a much much larger install base than MPA3 does. I don't mind you pointing things out at all, but please stick to the facts.

Again, as we both at least agree ( ), anyone looking at solutions should take a good look at all options.

[OY]

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn

I don't see how you can claim to be "the industry leader". Our product has a much much larger install base than MPA3 does. I don't mind you pointing things out at all, but please stick to the facts.

Again, as we both at least agree ( ), anyone looking at solutions should take a good look at all options.

An industry leader is measured using multiple factors and MPA3 and Mansion Productions meets all the criterias whether you like it or not John

* leading the industry in the development of a type of software /CHECK
* been around the longest /CHECK
* have the most clients (MPA3 + Epoch MPA3) /CHECK
* have the clients who sends through the most transactions /CHECK

Now I am sure we can discuss this up and down and left and right and it will not make any difference whatsoever - at least I could not care less.

But it is a fact that Mansion Productions and MPA3 is indeed a market leader. End of a childish discussion John.

[madfuck]

wht the fuck ever !!!!

[TMM_John]

Originally Posted by Oystein

An industry leader is measured using multiple factors and MPA3 and Mansion Productions meets all the criterias whether you like it or not John

* leading the industry in the development of a type of software /CHECK
* been around the longest /CHECK
* have the most clients (MPA3 + Epoch MPA3) /CHECK
* have the clients who sends through the most transactions /CHECK

Now I am sure we can discuss this up and down and left and right and it will not make any difference whatsoever - at least I could not care less.

But it is a fact that Mansion Productions and MPA3 is indeed a market leader. End of a childish discussion John.

It has nothing to do with me liking something or not. It has to do with the facts.

An industry leader is a bold claim.

As far as your points...

NATS is a more advanced software by far. I'm sure you'd love to debate it but ask people who work with BOTH systems. And not friends or clients of yours.

I don't think time in business is much of a factor as to being an "industry leader" after having proven oneself. It may be relevant to being a dinosaur tho.

I'm pretty sure even with the Epochstats clients added you still don't have more than us. I even see people moving off of it to us. I find it amazing if the product is that good they would rather pay us than have it for free. BTW, is that being upgraded to the new MPA3 v2?

As far as transactions processed by a client; I don't know how you claim to know the size of our clients. That is a pretty bold claim. Are you looking at things you shouldn't be?

It may make for great marketing, but things aren't true just because you say they are.

I'm also glad you decided to start throwing around personal insults. I find it odd you can disagree with my post but when I make the same disagreement I'm somehow "childish".

Also, while I have you, please stop using the term "Next-Generation". You never used it until well after NATS was released. If you can show me prior use please do so.

[OY]

I cannot believe I am actually replying to this post John as I think it is ridiculous, but I will in order to make some minor points and just defend some of the things you say without merit.

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn

It has nothing to do with me liking something or not. It has to do with the facts.

An industry leader is a bold claim.

Oy replies: Yes it is and we both seem to claim it. Guess that makes us both industry leaders

As far as your points...

NATS is a more advanced software by far. I'm sure you'd love to debate it but ask people who work with BOTH systems. And not friends or clients of yours.

Oy replies: I would like for you to point out what Nats has that MPA3 does not. I say it is not and that each to their own. I agree that neither my friends nor yours should be part of the discussion.

I don't think time in business is much of a factor as to being an "industry leader" after having proven oneself. It may be relevant to being a dinosaur tho.

Oy replies: Yes it is, as the dinosaurs roamed the earth for a long long time very successfully as they adapted to their environment very well. Of course, the dinosaurs did eventually die out and that from a catastrophe that they could not control themselves. Let us hope that does not happen to this "dinosaur"

I'm pretty sure even with the Epochstats clients added you still don't have more than us. I even see people moving off of it to us. I find it amazing if the product is that good they would rather pay us than have it for free. BTW, is that being upgraded to the new MPA3 v2?

Oy replies: I doubt you do but if you tell me your number I will show you mine! (jk) As for your Epoch statement, well that is just your statement and nothing else. But of course I can see why some program owners will choose either Nats or MPA3 version if they do not want, for some reason, to use Epoch as their primary biller. Then they have to do something else like Nats. I have no problem seeing that at all. In fact, some companies cannot use Epoch because of physical location or restrictions from VISA and MC.

As far as transactions processed by a client; I don't know how you claim to know the size of our clients. That is a pretty bold claim. Are you looking at things you shouldn't be?

Oy replies: It was a pure guesstimate and I am guessing it is the truth. Besides, I would not throw stones while sitting in a glass house John.

It may make for great marketing, but things aren't true just because you say they are.

I'm also glad you decided to start throwing around personal insults. I find it odd you can disagree with my post but when I make the same disagreement I'm somehow "childish".

Oy replies: I found your post childish. End of story.

Also, while I have you, please stop using the term "Next-Generation". You never used it until well after NATS was released. If you can show me prior use please do so.

Oy replies: I will definitely remove that tagline if it is true you used it first. So I did some research and unless I am wrong here it might be the other way around unless you can show me something I cannot find:

July 28, 2004: http://web.archive.org/web/200407240...ions.com/mpa3/

January 3, 2006:
http://web.archive.org/web/200601030...products/nats/

January 5, 2005: http://web.archive.org/web/200501050...w.getnats.com/

This is all I can find and if correct then you are 5-6 months AFTER us using that tagline - now, if I am wrong and you can show me otherwise then I will personally apologize and also remove this particular tagline from our websites. You have my word on that.

And that was about it for tonight. My wife and I have our 5 year wedding anniversary and I would prefer spending it with her rather than on GFY bickering with you John.

Have a nice night.

Oy--

[OY]

Did some more research and found yet another URL you have had Nats under: http://web.archive.org/web/200404050...muchmedia.com/

This was April 5, 2004 and therefore you are CORRECT and I stand corrected in regards to that particular "tagline". My apologies. We will not use this tagline in our next update of MPA3 website.

Good night.

[TMM_John]

Originally Posted by Oystein

I cannot believe I am actually replying to this post John as I think it is ridiculous, but I will in order to make some minor points and just defend some of the things you say without merit.

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And that was about it for tonight. My wife and I have our 5 year wedding anniversary and I would prefer spending it with her rather than on GFY bickering with you John.

Have a nice night.

Oy--

Congrats to you and your wife on your anniversary.

I'm sorry you feel its so ridiculous. It is cute tho how you can make any disagreement you want, but when people disagree with you it is ridiculous and childish.

You changed your claim from "the industry leader" to "an industry leader". There is quite a difference there. Your product may be a good alternative to NATS for some, however even taking a very quick at statsremote gives a pretty clear representation of the market share we have:

NATS Sponsors: http://www.statsremote.com/search.php?stats_system=nats
MPA3 Sponsors: http://www.statsremote.com/search.php?stats_system=mpa3

I can guarantee you the NATS list is missing programs and I'm sure the MPA3 list is also. However I'd bet the ratio of installs is pretty close.

NATS is a much more widely used, more tested and proven solution. I would think "the industry leader" is defined by that not by who released their product first.

As much as I would love to I'm not going to get into a features argument here. Its certainly too long to carry out in a thread not dedicated to that entirely I'm sure NATS has some features MPA doesn't have and vice-versa. A lot of the features I see implemented in your yet unreleased MPA3 v2 are features we have had for years. That combined with the demos I have seen of your software leads me to believe NATS overall is a much more robust product.

I have been involved in this industry since 1996. Fabian who wrote the original NATS has been around just as long. MPA may be a few years older than NATS however it is certainly not the first affiliate programming Fabian & myself have undertaken.

As far as you going "extinct"; I surely hope you don't go out of business anytime soon. I do enjoy having you to compete with and I believe it drives a lot of innovation and progress for this business. That is a good thing for everyone.

I'm glad to see you admit you are guessing at things and calling them facts

As far as your clique, if you have an accusation to make please do so rather than vaguely hint at some mysterious wrong doing.

I'm sorry you feel my disagreeing with you is childish. Especially after you disagree with me initially on the same point. I also find it ironic you use "End of Story" as part of your arguments.

You seem to have either missed or avoided my question about Epochstats being upgraded to MPA3 v2. Just personal curiosity on my part. I understand if there is some reason why you can't answer that yet.

Anyway, please enjoy the evening with your wife and let me know upon your return exactly what in my post was without merit as you claim.

[TMM_John]

Originally Posted by Oystein

Did some more research and found yet another URL you have had Nats under: http://web.archive.org/web/200404050...muchmedia.com/

This was April 5, 2004 and therefore you are CORRECT and I stand corrected in regards to that particular "tagline". My apologies. We will not use this tagline in our next update of MPA3 website.

Good night.

Thanks. NATS has been the "Next-Generation Admin Tracking System" since it was first brought to market which was before MPA3 was released. I believe you started using the Next Generation tag when MPA3 was released.

Thank you for being cooperative and professional on this. I appreciate it.

[NemesisEnforcer]

Originally Posted by elitegirls

Hey guys,

please spam me with affiliate software solutions.
Mainstream affiliate managing tools and out of the box shizzl prefered!

let's go!

In addition to the ones mentioned so far, check out aWIZ Affiliate Manager.

[jimb]

We have been using NATS from TooMuchMedia and we love it!

They always work hard to help us with any new addition or problems we might have!

Jim

[J B]

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn

... however even taking a very quick at statsremote gives a pretty clear representation of the market share we have:

NATS Sponsors: http://www.statsremote.com/search.php?stats_system=nats
MPA3 Sponsors: http://www.statsremote.com/search.php?stats_system=mpa3

I can guarantee you the NATS list is missing programs and I'm sure the MPA3 list is also. However I'd bet the ratio of installs is pretty close ....

FYI... we have a list of Epoch MPA3 programs as well
http://www.statsremote.com/search.php?processor=8
which is by far not complete.

On the other hand... since we released the Custom NATS feature, we've been getting much less requests for NATS programs, so I'm sure there are quite a few that were released this year that are not included in our list.

[CarlosTheGaucho]

That's a great display of the popular MPA3 / NATS rivalery !

Rock on guys!

[TMM_John]

Originally Posted by J B

FYI... we have a list of Epoch MPA3 programs as well
http://www.statsremote.com/search.php?processor=8
which is by far not complete.

On the other hand... since we released the Custom NATS feature, we've been getting much less requests for NATS programs, so I'm sure there are quite a few that were released this year that are not included in our list.

There it is. I tried but could not find it.

By custom NATS feature I assume you mean that you can add any NATS program to Stats Remote yourself rather than wait for it to be integrated? If that is the case that makes sense why I thought so many are missing. Is that feature also available for MPA with Stats Remote?

[lisa sparks]

I would say NATS is great. They have helped me every time and are very patient with me. I am a little slow on my programming skills.

Anyway I will take this opportunity to thank everyone at NATS for all your help...

[J B]

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn

By custom NATS feature I assume you mean that you can add any NATS program to Stats Remote yourself rather than wait for it to be integrated?

Yes, people can just select 'Custom NATS' as program type, enter the URL and it will work

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn

If that is the case that makes sense why I thought so many are missing.

You could always send me a complete list

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn

Is that feature also available for MPA with Stats Remote?

No.

[TMM_John]

Originally Posted by J B

Yes, people can just select 'Custom NATS' as program type, enter the URL and it will work



You could always send me a complete list



No.

I will try to get with you next week to give you as up to date of a list as I can assemble. We often have a number of programs that aren't "live" or public yet so I of course don't want to give out those names. But I will see what I can do to put together as many as I can that you are missing.

[J B]

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn

I will try to get with you next week to give you as up to date of a list as I can assemble. We often have a number of programs that aren't "live" or public yet so I of course don't want to give out those names. But I will see what I can do to put together as many as I can that you are missing.

Thank you, that would be nice... please send it to jb A T statsremote D O T com

If other affiliate software providers (mentioned in this thread or not) want to do the same, feel free to do so

[Darth_Porn]

Does anyone know if NATS can be configured as an affiliate program for mainstream products as well???

For example I have a mainstream financial trading site that I want to create a affiliate program for. Could this handle it? Would it work for mainstream product?

The setup and model is similar to online gaming.

Is anyone from NATS here? If so hit me up on ICQ: 39-236-606

[elitegirls]

Guys, calm down!

I'm looking for a affiliate app for a shop-system not a paysite. so nats and mpa3 are well 'overdressed' for this job.

i guess affiliate pro 3 will do the job. it's suspicious cheap though ;)

thanks!

[justsexxx]

Advantage with Awiz is, that epoch+ccbill can still send the checks..

[yumma]

nast nast nast!

[NemesisEnforcer]

Originally Posted by elitegirls

Guys, calm down!

I'm looking for a affiliate app for a shop-system not a paysite. so nats and mpa3 are well 'overdressed' for this job.

i guess affiliate pro 3 will do the job. it's suspicious cheap though ;)

thanks!

Check out iDevAffiliate before making your final decision.

[elitegirls]

thex nemisisEnforcer, idevAff looks good!

[TheLegacy]

I am amazed at how bold statements can be made from one program attempting to compare themselves to another. Oystein I am sure that you feel you need to make a dent in the minds of webmasters to consider your program over another - but to speak directly against NAT's when they were proven leader (I'm sure) when many webmasters were just starting high school.

This week I had the privilege of a two day training session with Fred from NAT's who during his busy schedule, took the time teaching and going through the basics with me in helping me understand the depth of the program. I am not talking an hour but hours he calmly and graciously taught me how to effectively do my job better.

Not only was a blown away by the ability and detail NAT's has to assist webmasters but also the level of professionalism Fred and the team at too much http://www.toomuchmedia.com showed me.

If I was to view your comments in this thread my decision would already have been made to use toomuch. Few companies out there have actually responded to the needs of webmasters as these people have - then match it with the business ethics and standards only found in Fortune 100 companies.

Keep up the great work NAT's and I hope that other companies can incorporate your business model along with the detailed and flexible software you have provided and continually upgrade as webmasters request.

http://www.toomuchmedia.com

[elitegirls]

If I had to choose a software for a PAYSITE I would chose NATS.

But I don't start a Paysite. Again, thanks for all the fish :D

[TMM_John]

NATS can of course be used for mainstream products and for tangible goods as well as membership based sites.

There are factors involved of course depending on the exact setup you are looking for and it is best to discuss each instance on its own in detail. If you would like to do so please send me an icq: 5596373, aim: JohnA1078, email: albright[]toomuchmedia.com, or call the office at 732-385-1536.

Thanks!

[Major (Tom)]

Originally Posted by elitegirls

Hey guys,

please spam me with affiliate software solutions.
Mainstream affiliate managing tools and out of the box shizzl prefered!

let's go!

Nats all the way.
hands down, topic closed
if you have any questions from a non bias individual hit me up.
161350410
duke

[O MARINA]

I hear great feedback from webmasters about NATS software.

[EuroRev_Stacey]

NATS for life!

[avolongold]

I'd like to add the point that NATS is more affordable that MPA.

I was interested in NATS back when you started offering it at $150 a month, simply for the price.

I didn't go for it because I didn't like Fabian's attitude when I was on the phone going through a demo. I could hear him chirping in the background that he had already answered a question that I was asking the person who I was doing a demo with.

I like Oystein's attitude more. If MPA was $150 a month, I'd go for it!

[TMM_John]

Originally Posted by avolongold

I'd like to add the point that NATS is more affordable that MPA.

I was interested in NATS back when you started offering it at $150 a month, simply for the price.

I didn't go for it because I didn't like Fabian's attitude when I was on the phone going through a demo. I could hear him chirping in the background that he had already answered a question that I was asking the person who I was doing a demo with.

I like Oystein's attitude more. If MPA was $150 a month, I'd go for it!

Sorry for your experience.

Fabian was bought out of Too Much Media last November. He is no longer involved with the company at all.

If you'd like to discuss anything about NATS you can always reach me directly at 732-385-1536 x111

[Satan]

Out of all the ones I have seen and played with which is a bunch of them since I program and I've made lots of custom tools for people. The best one I would have to say is nats, its the easiest to use and their support is the best support I have dealt with so far in adult. If you want great software with a great team then check out Nats and talk to john

[TMM_John]

Originally Posted by Satan

Out of all the ones I have seen and played with which is a bunch of them since I program and I've made lots of custom tools for people. The best one I would have to say is nats, its the easiest to use and their support is the best support I have dealt with so far in adult. If you want great software with a great team then check out Nats and talk to john

Thanks Pete. You and the other contractors that work on NATS are a big part of the reason for its success. The work you guys do is great!

[OY]

Bump for John ;-)