XBiz and AVN both did NOT cover the NATS breach..... - GoFuckYourself.com

Daruma · 12-23-2007, 08:46 AM

So much for unbiased reporting...

MaDalton · 12-23-2007, 08:50 AM

they are on holiday probably

Daruma · 12-23-2007, 08:55 AM

But they where able to post more important news...

http://www.xbiz.com/news/88203
http://www.avn.com/index.cfm?objecti...8FC19C5DB0E9EB

MaDalton · 12-23-2007, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daruma

But they where able to post more important news...

http://www.xbiz.com/news/88203
http://www.avn.com/index.cfm?objecti...8FC19C5DB0E9EB

lol - ok - you win

Iron Fist · 12-23-2007, 09:02 AM

TheSenator · 12-23-2007, 09:02 AM

"All Boys Distribution Revamps Logo, Website" You know Juicy loves that kind of news.

Daruma · 12-23-2007, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSenator

"All Boys Distribution Revamps Logo, Website" You know Juicy loves that kind of news.

thats industry breaking news if I've ever heard it...

Oracle Porn · 12-23-2007, 09:18 AM

everyone is in this industry only for money

ethics? journalism? are you guys high on pcp?

m-o-n-e-y

Daruma · 12-23-2007, 09:22 AM

I'd really be surprised if this story gets covered in either one and if so - how it gets covered..

JFK · 12-23-2007, 09:24 AM

before reporting something like this, I'm sure they have to check with a whole bunch of Lawyers, so as not to leave themselfes open to a law suit

Daruma · 12-23-2007, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by JFK

before reporting something like this, I'm sure they have to check with a whole bunch of Lawyers, so as not to leave themselfes open to a law suit

yes agreed - which means that it never get reported..

JFK · 12-23-2007, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Daruma

yes agreed - which means that it never get reported..

ever try and get a hold of lawyers this timeof year ??

pornlaw · 12-23-2007, 09:34 AM

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ever try and get a hold of lawyers this timeof year ??

I talked to Tom and Quentin from XBiz earlier this week.

I will call Tom today and pass along the info and see if they will cover it.

notoldschool · 12-23-2007, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by pornlaw

I talked to Tom and Quentin from XBiz earlier this week.

I will call Tom today and pass along the info and see if they will cover it.

WOW! now we are all impressed that you are involved. The world is saved.

TO JOHNTMM. When the lawyers get involved make sure that you drag EVERY affiliates name into court AND point out all the bad shit they promote so they are all dragged into court for pushing porn in Illegal states. They should all be jailed if they do NOT live in california.

ninavain · 12-23-2007, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daruma

But they where able to post more important news...

http://www.xbiz.com/news/88203
http://www.avn.com/index.cfm?objecti...8FC19C5DB0E9EB

LOL

-God no wonder I never read that boring stuff

baddog · 12-23-2007, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daruma

But they where able to post more important news...

http://www.xbiz.com/news/88203
http://www.avn.com/index.cfm?objecti...8FC19C5DB0E9EB

I suspect that the Saturday and Sunday "news" is preloaded in the system before they leave work Friday.

Just a guess, but I would be VERY surprised if they actually had someone in the office posting new articles over the weekend.

Alec isn't that much of a slave driver.

Sebastian Sands · 12-23-2007, 10:55 AM

Do you realize what could happen if shit like this gets picked up by news channels? It starts with AVN/XBIZ but watch when a major mainstream channel like FOX or CNN picks it up.
And we all know how much they like this industry, they make it sound like a major creditcard scheme was going on or whatever. Trust me it will hurt everyones signs ups.

Daruma · 12-23-2007, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Sebastian Sands

Do you realize what could happen if shit like this gets picked up by news channels? It starts with AVN/XBIZ but watch when a major mainstream channel like FOX or CNN picks it up.
And we all know how much they like this industry, they make it sound like a major creditcard scheme was going on or whatever. Trust me it will hurt everyones signs ups.

agreed - however it should have and could have been handled much better from the very beginning

minusonebit · 12-23-2007, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by JFK

before reporting something like this, I'm sure they have to check with a whole bunch of Lawyers, so as not to leave themselfes open to a law suit

Bullshit. First amendment protection is VERY strong for news media. It is very hard to sue a newspaper for libel. You have to not only prove that that libel was committed but also that the publication knew or should have known that the story they ran with was false.

They are not publishing it because its not politically correct or popular to do so. AVN and XBIZ are both publications with a strong bias for not only the prevailing opinion in the adult industry but they also love to write newsvertisements about people they like.

JFK · 12-23-2007, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by minusonebit

Bullshit. First amendment protection is VERY strong for news media. It is very hard to sue a newspaper for libel. You have to not only prove that that libel was committed but also that the publication knew or should have known that the story they ran with was false.

They are not publishing it because its not politically correct or popular to do so. AVN and XBIZ are both publications with a strong bias for not only the prevailing opinion in the adult industry but they also love to write newsvertisements about people they like.

Bullshit, according to you! As I am sure, you have very deep pockets to protect you from a frivolous law suit. By the time someting winds tru the system, it could bankrupt you in legals, so you were found innocent, so what? At what cost ?

tony286 · 12-23-2007, 12:02 PM

You cant be unbiased when the people you are reporting on buy ads from you. Thats why you rarely if ever see people called on the carpet in those two industry publications.

notoldschool · 12-23-2007, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Daruma

agreed - however it should have and could have been handled much better from the very beginning

THIS IS NOT AN ADULT WEBMASTER. HE WORKS FOR ADULTS OPPOSITION.

please move away from him and his threads.

notoldschool · 12-23-2007, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minusonebit

Bullshit. First amendment protection is VERY strong for news media. It is very hard to sue a newspaper for libel. You have to not only prove that that libel was committed but also that the publication knew or should have known that the story they ran with was false.

They are not publishing it because its not politically correct or popular to do so. AVN and XBIZ are both publications with a strong bias for not only the prevailing opinion in the adult industry but they also love to write newsvertisements about people they like.

THIS IS NOT AN ADULT WEBMASTER.

please add him to your ignore list.

C H R I S · 12-23-2007, 12:26 PM

AVN will cover this story, our Senior Editor working on it now. Its a complicated story and we intend to cover it fairly and unbiased - being a holiday weekend we will need to contact all the parties involved. We wont just throw up a story to be 1st - we have to contact parties involved and make sure the facts are straight.

I cant speak for XBIZ, but I am sure they as well as us will cover it as it is an important issue that effects the industry.

notoldschool · 12-23-2007, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AVNChris

AVN will cover this story, our Senior Editor working on it now. Its a complicated story and we intend to cover it fairly and unbiased - being a holiday weekend we will need to contact all the parties involved. We wont just throw up a story to be 1st - we have to contact parties involved and make sure the facts are straight.

I cant speak for XBIZ, but I am sure they as well as us will cover it as it is an important issue that effects the industry.

wow. now i feel all safe inside.

JFK · 12-23-2007, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AVNChris

AVN will cover this story, our Senior Editor working on it now. Its a complicated story and we intend to cover it fairly and unbiased - being a holiday weekend we will need to contact all the parties involved. We wont just throw up a story to be 1st - we have to contact parties involved and make sure the facts are straight.

I cant speak for XBIZ, but I am sure they as well as us will cover it as it is an important issue that effects the industry.

Right on Chris

JFK · 12-23-2007, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notoldschool

THIS IS NOT AN ADULT WEBMASTER.

please add him to your ignore list.

Thanks for the info

Bama · 12-23-2007, 12:49 PM

What exactly do you expect the story to say? As of right now, no one knows any real details..

This is PollyWolly Dinglehoffer reporting live from AAAAVeeIn...

It has recently been reported that an unknown person from an unknown location has breached the admin section from an unknown number of webmaster programs using the NATS affiliate software.

It's not clear what information was taken nor is it known if the unknown perpetrator from the unknown location has used any personal webmaster information. Since we have no clue if any personal webmaster information was used, we don't know which webmaster was affected or in what way.

Stay tuned to this story as we bring you further details giving you the information as it unfolds. For now, this is PollyWolly Dinglehoffer reporting live from AAAAVeeIn...

The trouble with town criers is that they get 1 sliver of information and then start using words like "might", "could", "perhaps", "should", "would". You won't hear them use the words "is" or "does" very often when they shout from the roof-tops.

Yeah, it sucks that it happened, but the person who did it will most likely be caught. Keep in mind that they didn't "hack" the program, they knew the user name and password that NATS admins used for themselves - either from setting up NATS on their own servers, or a friend of someone who set up NATS on their server.

Since this was a breach and not a hack, it would seem reasonable that the person wasn't specifically after webmaster personal data such as social security numbers but rather the email addresses.

Once they start using them, and with the help of law enforcement, it's not hard to trace it back to the person/persons involved.

So, run off and change your epass (and similar) passwords. You're an idiot to repetitively use the same passwords over and over to begin with and the nuisance is your punishment. Keep an eye out for shared passwords for your members section and you'll most likely find that this is the worst you'll suffer from all this.

notoldschool · 12-23-2007, 02:08 PM

I doubt it. Most program owners do not read them there paid for stories.

baddog · 12-23-2007, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notoldschool

THIS IS NOT AN ADULT WEBMASTER. HE WORKS FOR ADULTS OPPOSITION.

please move away from him and his threads.

what exactly do you do?

notoldschool · 12-23-2007, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

what exactly do you do?

I am an adult webmaster who began working in the industry in 2003.

notoldschool · 12-23-2007, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

www.natssponsors.com trust me this is a list you don't want to be on right about now.

i like you man, but i have to disagree.
Im sure most people who post on this board wish they owned one of those proggies.

I dont mean to speak for everyone but Im sure most of the guys on that list could survive for years to come just off their rebills. You give too much credit to the folks that post here. Most are insiginifigant.

notoldschool · 12-23-2007, 02:29 PM

PS. before you ask why i post here then.

I post for sport. Its a great board to pass the time without getting much accomplished.

commonsense · 12-23-2007, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bama

What exactly do you expect the story to say? As of right now, no one knows any real details..

This is PollyWolly Dinglehoffer reporting live from AAAAVeeIn...

It has recently been reported that an unknown person from an unknown location has breached the admin section from an unknown number of webmaster programs using the NATS affiliate software.

It's not clear what information was taken nor is it known if the unknown perpetrator from the unknown location has used any personal webmaster information. Since we have no clue if any personal webmaster information was used, we don't know which webmaster was affected or in what way.

Stay tuned to this story as we bring you further details giving you the information as it unfolds. For now, this is PollyWolly Dinglehoffer reporting live from AAAAVeeIn...

The trouble with town criers is that they get 1 sliver of information and then start using words like "might", "could", "perhaps", "should", "would". You won't hear them use the words "is" or "does" very often when they shout from the roof-tops.

Yeah, it sucks that it happened, but the person who did it will most likely be caught. Keep in mind that they didn't "hack" the program, they knew the user name and password that NATS admins used for themselves - either from setting up NATS on their own servers, or a friend of someone who set up NATS on their server.

Since this was a breach and not a hack, it would seem reasonable that the person wasn't specifically after webmaster personal data such as social security numbers but rather the email addresses.

Once they start using them, and with the help of law enforcement, it's not hard to trace it back to the person/persons involved.

So, run off and change your epass (and similar) passwords. You're an idiot to repetitively use the same passwords over and over to begin with and the nuisance is your punishment. Keep an eye out for shared passwords for your members section and you'll most likely find that this is the worst you'll suffer from all this.

Awesome post

Daruma · 12-23-2007, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notoldschool

THIS IS NOT AN ADULT WEBMASTER. HE WORKS FOR ADULTS OPPOSITION.

please move away from him and his threads.

ya - buddy - I may not be the webmaster day to day but I still own programs..
your correct - adult is NOT my day to day bread and butter but it still brings in good coin..

minusonebit · 12-24-2007, 02:53 AM

Well, I just submitted my story to them through the PR Blaster thing. So they wont be able to say they weren't aware of the story.

minusonebit · 12-24-2007, 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK

Bullshit, according to you! As I am sure, you have very deep pockets to protect you from a frivolous law suit. By the time someting winds tru the system, it could bankrupt you in legals, so you were found innocent, so what? At what cost ?

Thats why the countersuit was created. And several states now have a vexatious litigator act which can be used to put the hurt on someone who maintains baseless suits in the courts for the sheer pleasure of making people squirm.

minusonebit · 12-24-2007, 02:57 AM

----- Forwarded message from [email protected] -----
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 01:49:32 -0800
From: [email protected]
Reply-To: [email protected]
Subject: XBIZ Newscaster - Receipt Confirmation

<html><body>
 Thank you for submitting your company news to XBIZ.
 
 Your news release has been received and will be processed shortly.
 
 
 <a href='mailto:[email protected]'>[email protected]</a>
 (866) XBIZ-NEWS
 (310) 820-0228
 <a href='http://xbiz.com'>http://xbiz.com</a>
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DamianJ · 12-24-2007, 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bama

What exactly do you expect the story to say? As of right now, no one knows any real details..

Isn't usually the job of a journalist to unearth the details?

tony286 · 12-24-2007, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ

Isn't usually the job of a journalist to unearth the details?

They wont do that,they will print what they are told. It will be like a multi page press release.

12-23-2007, 08:46 AM	#1
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12-23-2007, 08:50 AM	#2
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12-23-2007, 08:55 AM	#3
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12-23-2007, 09:02 AM	#5
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12-23-2007, 09:02 AM	#6
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12-23-2007, 09:18 AM	#8
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12-23-2007, 09:22 AM	#9
Daruma Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: PandaLand™ Posts: 3,494	I'd really be surprised if this story gets covered in either one and if so - how it gets covered.. __________________ RIP TD

12-23-2007, 09:24 AM	#10
JFK FUBAR the ORIGINATOR Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: FUBARLAND Posts: 67,374	before reporting something like this, I'm sure they have to check with a whole bunch of Lawyers, so as not to leave themselfes open to a law suit __________________ FUBAR Webmasters - The FUBAR Times - FUBAR Webmasters Mobile - FUBARTV.XXX For promo opps contact jfk at fubarwebmasters dot com

12-23-2007, 10:55 AM	#17
Sebastian Sands Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: ICQ: 211-417-740 Posts: 5,223	Do you realize what could happen if shit like this gets picked up by news channels? It starts with AVN/XBIZ but watch when a major mainstream channel like FOX or CNN picks it up. And we all know how much they like this industry, they make it sound like a major creditcard scheme was going on or whatever. Trust me it will hurt everyones signs ups.

12-23-2007, 12:02 PM	#21
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	You cant be unbiased when the people you are reporting on buy ads from you. Thats why you rarely if ever see people called on the carpet in those two industry publications.

12-23-2007, 12:26 PM	#24
C H R I S Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Marina Del Rey Posts: 10,842	AVN will cover this story, our Senior Editor working on it now. Its a complicated story and we intend to cover it fairly and unbiased - being a holiday weekend we will need to contact all the parties involved. We wont just throw up a story to be 1st - we have to contact parties involved and make sure the facts are straight. I cant speak for XBIZ, but I am sure they as well as us will cover it as it is an important issue that effects the industry. __________________ C H R I S Retired Porn Veteran BH4L

12-23-2007, 12:49 PM	#28
Bama Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 2,727	What exactly do you expect the story to say? As of right now, no one knows any real details.. This is PollyWolly Dinglehoffer reporting live from AAAAVeeIn... It has recently been reported that an unknown person from an unknown location has breached the admin section from an unknown number of webmaster programs using the NATS affiliate software. It's not clear what information was taken nor is it known if the unknown perpetrator from the unknown location has used any personal webmaster information. Since we have no clue if any personal webmaster information was used, we don't know which webmaster was affected or in what way. Stay tuned to this story as we bring you further details giving you the information as it unfolds. For now, this is PollyWolly Dinglehoffer reporting live from AAAAVeeIn... The trouble with town criers is that they get 1 sliver of information and then start using words like "might", "could", "perhaps", "should", "would". You won't hear them use the words "is" or "does" very often when they shout from the roof-tops. Yeah, it sucks that it happened, but the person who did it will most likely be caught. Keep in mind that they didn't "hack" the program, they knew the user name and password that NATS admins used for themselves - either from setting up NATS on their own servers, or a friend of someone who set up NATS on their server. Since this was a breach and not a hack, it would seem reasonable that the person wasn't specifically after webmaster personal data such as social security numbers but rather the email addresses. Once they start using them, and with the help of law enforcement, it's not hard to trace it back to the person/persons involved. So, run off and change your epass (and similar) passwords. You're an idiot to repetitively use the same passwords over and over to begin with and the nuisance is your punishment. Keep an eye out for shared passwords for your members section and you'll most likely find that this is the worst you'll suffer from all this. Last edited by Bama; 12-23-2007 at 12:52 PM..

12-23-2007, 02:08 PM	#29
notoldschool Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 5,687	I doubt it. Most program owners do not read them there paid for stories. __________________ No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture. -- Learned Hand http://www.bjpenn.com

12-23-2007, 02:29 PM	#33
notoldschool Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 5,687	PS. before you ask why i post here then. I post for sport. Its a great board to pass the time without getting much accomplished. __________________ No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture. -- Learned Hand http://www.bjpenn.com

12-24-2007, 02:53 AM	#36
minusonebit So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: [email protected] Posts: 7,391	Well, I just submitted my story to them through the PR Blaster thing. So they wont be able to say they weren't aware of the story.

12-24-2007, 02:57 AM	#38
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