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Old 01-24-2008, 10:56 PM   #1
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He looks like a clown

He IS a clown.

Nobody likes this guy, he's stupid.



By the way...this is nothing new. Theo van Gogh(great grandson or something of Vincents brother) got killed (shot and a knife through his heart with a note) after publishing HIS movie about the Islam.

End result:





This guy mentioned in here is just a copy cat.
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He might be crazy but what's far more crazy is that we let ourselves dictate
by what muslims want and don't want in this country. That's far more worrying
then the opinion of a nuthead......that nuthead should still be allowed his
opinion....and if some people don't like it.....well don't listen to it and don't
watch it....it's a fucking movie..

This country already is back in the dark ages.....we used to be the most
liberal country in the world....what's left is a shithole worse than China.

And what's even more worrying is that for some reason the dutch just
let it all happen and accept it.......I was once proud to be Dutch....I'm
now ashamed to be Dutch

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Old 01-25-2008, 05:16 AM   #13
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Oh I don't have anything to Muslim people in general.....I do have something
against the group who think they can decide how the rest of the world should
live and behave......especially if the same group came here because this place
was so much better than theirs....
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He might be crazy but what's far more crazy is that we let ourselves dictate
by what muslims want and don't want in this country. That's far more worrying
then the opinion of a nuthead......that nuthead should still be allowed his
opinion....and if some people don't like it.....well don't listen to it and don't
watch it....it's a fucking movie..
Word, yo!

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This country already is back in the dark ages.....we used to be the most
liberal country in the world....what's left is a shithole worse than China.

And what's even more worrying is that for some reason the dutch just
let it all happen and accept it.......I was once proud to be Dutch....I'm
now ashamed to be Dutch

That's something I totally have to disagree with.
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That's something I totally have to disagree with.
cameras everywhere, rfid chips in all ID documents, privacy invading
laws, having to carry an iD on you 24/7....if you said this would happen
15 years ago.......you'd be laughed at.....and now it has happened.

Coffeeshops will get banned, can't have big outdoor events anymore like
we use to could.....and all this so called for our own safety. The list
goes on and on and on.......try to paint the door of your bought house
a different color than the neighbours and find out what will happen.

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drive 5KM to fast in your car and you'll get fined the living shit out of you.
Burn cars, beat up people in the streets, kill people and they pat you on the
back.....fuck that....this country has been wasted by treehuggers and people
who like to take hard working people their money and waste it on bullshit.

Been to a hospital recently? Have old folks in your family who live in a
retirement home or have to live from a pension? You think they get the
same income as the guys who burn down other people's property and terrorise
whole neighbourhoods? Ever wondered how it's possible that the same group
can do this over and over and over again....and why they're not in jail?
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laws, having to carry an iD on you 24/7....if you said this would happen
15 years ago.......you'd be laughed at.....and now it has happened.

Coffeeshops will get banned, can't have big outdoor events anymore like
we use to could.....and all this so called for our own safety. The list
goes on and on and on.......try to paint the door of your bought house
a different color than the neighbours and find out what will happen.


Strangely I never get confronted with the things you named on top.

The last bit...I have to admit thats true.
But I still think this is one of the best places to live.
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Strangely I never get confronted with the things you named on top.

The last bit...I have to admit thats true.
But I still think this is one of the best places to live.
You know I thought that too for a long time....till I left the country a few
years and came back.....that's when you realise how much really has changed.
It goes in very tiny steps which you don't really notice until you packup and
leave for a while......it's like when you've been in a bad relation for a long
time you don't realise how bad it was till you get out and notice the difference.

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If the Netherlands bans coffeeshops you will see tumbleweeds blowing down the Damrak.

Nobody goes there for Edam cheese, windmills, clogs or tulips.

Ban coffeeshops and your GDP will halve.

Be smart... don't blame pot for your problems. As someone who visits The Netherlands every year it isn't potheads causing the problems... it's muslims, other darkies and junkies.

Reclaim your country.

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"Parliamentarian Geert Wilders spoke to FOX News about the documentary, insisting the Muslim holy book is dangerous and should be banned."

I agree and while he's at it he might also want to ban a similar and equally dangerous book. It's called The Holy Bible.
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this country is going into the shitter if the ones who are in charge keep up their soft unrealisitc approach to 'integration'. They are struggling with integration all my life, and in my youth i experienced the results first hand: Foreigners flocking together and picking fights with real dutch people all the time. And it hasnt changed one bit, and if there is someone who has the potential and the support to change it - he gets killed like fortuyn.

It's in the koran that their ultimate goal is to take over the world, make everyone islamic, and have no respect whatsover for people with other believes or non-believes.

When i see a documentary on tv about a mosque being built thats higher than a stadium, in the middle of a traditional dutch neighborhood, and the ground is a fucking gift from the city - fucking ridiculous.

We need someone like wilders very very badly, he may have some ridiculous points but someone like him is mandatory for a good balance in the government. Right now it's all about how poor the muslims are and soft ass integration talk which is proven not to be succesfull at all in the last decades.
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If the Netherlands bans coffeeshops you will see tumbleweeds blowing down the Damrak.

Nobody goes there for Edam cheese, windmills, clogs or tulips.

Ban coffeeshops and your GDP will halve.

Be smart... don't blame pot for your problems. As someone who visits The Netherlands every year it isn't potheads causing the problems... it's muslims, other darkies and junkies.

Reclaim your country.
Well our GDP will be fine....The Netherlands is in the top richest countries
in the world and it ain't because of weed. The fact that the country is
getting richer all the time there's no debt but a surplus is, little to no
inflation....hardly any unemploymency yet the working class can buy
and spend each year, our healthcare went downhill so fast it ain't even
funny, education is a complete joke....taxes keep increasing and more
ridiculous laws get added on a daily basis and violence and crime keep
rising.....is what we brought me to my opinion that our country officially
sucks......and therefor a lot of Dutch suck too....coz we roll over...accept
it and then vote the same idiots for another term once again......
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Forgot to add that all this doesn't mean you still can't have a good life in
Holland....of course you can....especially if you can afford it.....but the
facts though are no less.....while the country given the stats should go up
we are going downhill.....and at a staggering speed......hence Holland sucks!

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You know I thought that too for a long time....till I left the country a few
years and came back.....that's when you realise how much really has changed.
It goes in very tiny steps which you don't really notice until you packup and
leave for a while......it's like when you've been in a bad relation for a long
time you don't realise how bad it was till you get out and notice the difference.

Lol..changes are EVERYWHERE, not just in the Netherlands. So saying this is not a good place to live because you have been away for years and things have changed is a bit silly, don't you think?

DESPITE the changes, I think this is still one of the best places to live.
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why shouldnt a man be able to put out a video of his beliefs?

more people should criticize Islam, and catholics and every other religion.

If they had their way they would be burning us pagans again.

riticize and stand in their face, fight, never relent or back down from muslims or catholics.
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Lol..changes are EVERYWHERE, not just in the Netherlands. So saying this is not a good place to live because you have been away for years and things have changed is a bit silly, don't you think?

DESPITE the changes, I think this is still one of the best places to live.
Yeah there's a lot of change everywhere it's just funny that in most places
the changes are for the better and in Holland the opposite especially
considering the facts should indicate it should go forward.....This summer
my ass is out of here again....and summer can't come soon enough.....2 years
I've been back for my family to spend some time with the kids....biggest
mistake I've made so far.....next time they can come over visit us as
it's just a 2 hour flight from where they are......NEVER EVER AGAIN will
I move back to this shithole again.....I'll come visit and enjoy how good
my life is every once in a while.....I don't have to live here again to realise
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.....next time they can come over visit us as it's just a 2 hour flight from where they are.....
Where is that?
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Well our GDP will be fine....The Netherlands is in the top richest countries
in the world and it ain't because of weed. The fact that the country is
getting richer all the time there's no debt but a surplus is, little to no
inflation....hardly any unemploymency yet the working class can buy
and spend each year, our healthcare went downhill so fast it ain't even
funny, education is a complete joke....taxes keep increasing and more
ridiculous laws get added on a daily basis and violence and crime keep
rising.....is what we brought me to my opinion that our country officially
sucks......and therefor a lot of Dutch suck too....coz we roll over...accept
it and then vote the same idiots for another term once again......
that was pretty much spot on
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This comment cracked me up, " believe that our culture is far better than the retarded Islamic culture."
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He looks like Bill Clinton. Who is a clown so in a sense you're right.
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Oh, silly me. I thought that was Christianity!
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He might be crazy but what's far more crazy is that we let ourselves dictate
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then the opinion of a nuthead......that nuthead should still be allowed his
opinion....and if some people don't like it.....well don't listen to it and don't
watch it....it's a fucking movie..

This country already is back in the dark ages.....we used to be the most
liberal country in the world....what's left is a shithole worse than China.

And what's even more worrying is that for some reason the dutch just
let it all happen and accept it.......I was once proud to be Dutch....I'm
now ashamed to be Dutch

amsterstan!
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Oh, silly me. I thought that was Christianity!
That's just a lie. Christians have NEVER EVER forced anyone to be a Christian nor have they killed anyone that refused to do so.
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That's just a lie. Christians have NEVER EVER forced anyone to be a Christian nor have they killed anyone that refused to do so.
hahaha I guess you were not so good at history class.....
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That's just a lie. Christians have NEVER EVER forced anyone to be a Christian nor have they killed anyone that refused to do so.
Q - How many religious nuts does it take to screw in a light bulb?
A - NONE! They prefer to live in the dark.


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Old 01-25-2008, 10:47 AM   #44
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That's just a lie. Christians have NEVER EVER forced anyone to be a Christian nor have they killed anyone that refused to do so.
Use of "/sarcasm" or something similar could save you some grief... unless, of course, grief is what you're looking for.
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Old 01-25-2008, 10:51 AM   #45
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That's just a lie. Christians have NEVER EVER forced anyone to be a Christian nor have they killed anyone that refused to do so.
That was sarcasm right? Even you aren't dumb enough to eliminate the crusades from your memory.
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Old 01-25-2008, 10:55 AM   #46
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I think that more people should speak up about the Koran, provided they've taken the time to read the text themselves.

Until then, I do wish people would censor themselves... but I know that's just wishful thinking - the ignorant are usually only too happy to offer their opinions on a variety of subjects.

My personal take is that it's not a whole lot different than many religious texts... it can be understood as both a book of profound peace and as a book of violence... and I know that a good number of Muslims practice peacefully and in a tolerant manner.

it's the radicals that give the book a bad name.

Imho, anyone - of any faith or belief-system - that preaches intolerance should be put down.
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I think that more people should speak up about the Koran, provided they've taken the time to read the text themselves.

Until then, I do wish people would censor themselves... but I know that's just wishful thinking - the ignorant are usually only too happy to offer their opinions on a variety of subjects.

My personal take is that it's not a whole lot different than many religious texts... it can be understood as both a book of profound peace and as a book of violence... and I know that a good number of Muslims practice peacefully and in a tolerant manner.

it's the radicals that give the book a bad name.

Imho, anyone - of any faith or belief-system - that preaches intolerance should be put down.
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Old 01-25-2008, 11:06 AM   #48
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I think that more people should speak up about the Koran, provided they've taken the time to read the text themselves.

Until then, I do wish people would censor themselves... but I know that's just wishful thinking - the ignorant are usually only too happy to offer their opinions on a variety of subjects.

My personal take is that it's not a whole lot different than many religious texts... it can be understood as both a book of profound peace and as a book of violence... and I know that a good number of Muslims practice peacefully and in a tolerant manner.

it's the radicals that give the book a bad name.

Imho, anyone - of any faith or belief-system - that preaches intolerance should be put down.
Seriously you should read the koran.....there's nothing profound peaceful
in it.....There's this one passage where Muhammed talks about living side
by side with the jews in peace.....this was in the period Muhammed had
little to zero followers....the next passage adds that it's good to live in
peace with non believers till muslims are in the position to overthrow the
other group and forcefully convert them to islam....or be slaughtered

The so called peaceful verses you hear quoted on t.v. are either half verses
or verses pulled out of context......anyone who has picked up the Koran will
confirm this.
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Old 01-25-2008, 11:24 AM   #49
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Seriously you should read the koran.....there's nothing profound peaceful
in it.....There's this one passage where Muhammed talks about living side
by side with the jews in peace.....this was in the period Muhammed had
little to zero followers....the next passage adds that it's good to live in
peace with non believers till muslims are in the position to overthrow the
other group and forcefully convert them to islam....or be slaughtered

The so called peaceful verses you hear quoted on t.v. are either half verses
or verses pulled out of context......anyone who has picked up the Koran will
confirm this.
I have read it... but I do admit, that was a while ago... somewhere between my reading of Poe and Shakespeare's complete works... and I was a bit younger.

Maybe I'm due for a reread.

But my recollections leave me with the memory that it wasn't a whole lot more violent than the Torah (Old Testament).
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Old 01-25-2008, 11:34 AM   #50
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I have read it... but I do admit, that was a while ago... somewhere between my reading of Poe and Shakespeare's complete works... and I was a bit younger.

Maybe I'm due for a reread.

But my recollections leave me with the memory that it wasn't a whole lot more violent than the Torah (Old Testament).
It is....it's like an adventure diary of the warrior Muhammed.....but I agree
the bible isn't all that dandy either.....at least they tried harder to make
it more symbolic......yet the message remains the same. As a comedian
once said....if you don't believe and listen to god you're gonna burn eternally
in agonising pain.......but god loves you
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