Top 2 reasons George W Bush was a Great President.

[Colonel_Angus]

1. He reduced income taxes.
2. He cut capital gains taxes.

This puts money back into the hands of "We The People" where it belongs, instead of in the hands of government parasites.

These simple actions have a HUGE positive effect for most Americans. As a productive American who works full time and invests in the stock market, the Bush Presidency has been very nice to me and every other competent, hard-working American.

Of course most liberals don't realize this because they tend to be either naive young college students, government workers, unemployed, or rich trust funders (in other words, they don't live in the real world). So instead they bitch about abstract nonsense like Iraq that doesn't really affect any of us.

[scottybuzz]

[slapass]

But he increased spending at the same time...

[StarkReality]

Originally Posted by Colonel_Angus

This puts money back into the hands of "We The People" where it belongs, instead of in the hands of government parasites.
...
So instead they bitch about abstract nonsense like Iraq that doesn't really affect any of us.

Healthcare, education, infrastructure, it's all totally overrated and because it's shitty anyway noone will recognize if we save a few bucks here and there to fight a war we can't win.

[GrouchyAdmin]

It's like shooting retarded liberal fish in a barrel.

[Colonel_Angus]

Originally Posted by slapass

But he increased spending at the same time...

True. It would have been nice if he slashed spending as well, but the tax cuts are a good start.

[kane]

Originally Posted by Colonel_Angus

1. He reduced income taxes.
2. He cut capital gains taxes.

This puts money back into the hands of "We The People" where it belongs, instead of in the hands of government parasites.

These simple actions have a HUGE positive effect for most Americans. As a productive American who works full time and invests in the stock market, the Bush Presidency has been very nice to me and every other competent, hard-working American.

Of course most liberals don't realize this because they tend to be either naive young college students, government workers, unemployed, or rich trust funders (in other words, they don't live in the real world). So instead they bitch about abstract nonsense like Iraq that doesn't really affect any of us.

But he made the national debt an all time high and turned our trade deficit from an a positive to an all time high negative. He may have put some money back in the hands of the people but he has nearly bankrupted the country doing it. Somehow those debts have to be paid, who do you think will pick up the bill?

[Colonel_Angus]

Originally Posted by StarkReality

Healthcare, education, infrastructure, it's all totally overrated and because it's shitty anyway noone will recognize if we save a few bucks here and there to fight a war we can't win.

Most federal government spending already goes towards entitlements and education. Within a few decades, Medicare is going to consume 100% of the federal budget.

Is this the "shitty" healthcare you're talking about?

[directfiesta]

30th of march ....?????

[Colonel_Angus]

Originally Posted by kane

But he made the national debt an all time high and turned our trade deficit from an a positive to an all time high negative. He may have put some money back in the hands of the people but he has nearly bankrupted the country doing it. Somehow those debts have to be paid, who do you think will pick up the bill?

1. The government already had a massive debt when Bush took office. I agree that he should have cut spending as well.

2. The trade deficit hasn't been positive in a VERY long time. You're wrong on that one. Besides, a trade deficit isn't necessarily a bad thing.

[StarkReality]

Originally Posted by Colonel_Angus

Is this the "shitty" healthcare you're talking about?

Yep, many third world countries have a better healthcare system.

[mikeyddddd]

He should have tried to get an A in economics like he did he tax cuts.

Thanks to him we have more dollars in our pockets that are worth less than they were before. So how are we really better off with a weak dollar and a big ass budget deficit that has to be paid sometime?

[Colonel_Angus]

Originally Posted by StarkReality

Yep, many third world countries have a better healthcare system.

Name one.

[Iron Fist]

Originally Posted by scottybuzz

[Colonel_Angus]

Originally Posted by mikeyddddd

He should have tried to get an A in economics like he did he tax cuts.

Thanks to him we have more dollars in our pockets that are worth less than they were before. So how are we really better off with a weak dollar and a big ass budget deficit that has to be paid sometime?

Monetary policy (the cause of the weak dollar) is controlled by the Federal Reserve, not the President.

[kane]

I'll go in reverse order:

2. The trade deficit hasn't been positive in a VERY long time. You're wrong on that one. Besides, a trade deficit isn't necessarily a bad thing.

It was nearly even as recently as 1991 and through the 90's it was pretty close to being even http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balance_of_trade is a graph showing it. That graph seems to indicate that a low trade deficit is actually a pretty good thing. But I'm not an economist so I won't argue the finer points of it.

1. The government already had a massive debt when Bush took office. I agree that he should have cut spending as well.

You are right. The national debt was almost 6 trillion when he took office. It is now almost 10 trillion. Since 1938 no president has had a rise in the debt of more than 2 trillion (Actually they have all been under that amount) Bush will see a rise of around 4 trillion. In simple terms he has created twice the debt as any other president in history. As I said, I'm no economist, but that seems bad.

[notoldschool]

Originally Posted by Colonel_Angus

1. He reduced income taxes.
2. He cut capital gains taxes.

This puts money back into the hands of "We The People" where it belongs, instead of in the hands of government parasites.

These simple actions have a HUGE positive effect for most Americans. As a productive American who works full time and invests in the stock market, the Bush Presidency has been very nice to me and every other competent, hard-working American.

Of course most liberals don't realize this because they tend to be either naive young college students, government workers, unemployed, or rich trust funders (in other words, they don't live in the real world). So instead they bitch about abstract nonsense like Iraq that doesn't really affect any of us.

One thing I have learned from GFY is that if GrouchyAdmin agrees with you, that makes you semi retarded at the very least.

[kane]

Originally Posted by Colonel_Angus

Name one.

according to the WHO (world health organization) we rank 37th in healthcare quality. Costa Rica, Chile, Morocco and Dominica all rank ahead of us. I don't know that these are trully third world countries, but hey are certainly not world powerhouses by any means.

[mikeyddddd]

Originally Posted by Colonel_Angus

Monetary policy (the cause of the weak dollar) is controlled by the Federal Reserve, not the President.

That's a copout and you know it.

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by Colonel_Angus

Monetary policy (the cause of the weak dollar) is controlled by the Federal Reserve, not the President.

according the republicans, it is NEVER the president .... so why do you get one elected .... ????

[notoldschool]

Originally Posted by Colonel_Angus

Monetary policy (the cause of the weak dollar) is controlled by the Federal Reserve, not the President.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080330/...ul_wall_street

[kane]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

according the republicans, it is NEVER the president .... so why do you get one elected .... ????

It is politics as usual. If you are in power and things go bad you find as many people to blame as you can. If things go well you take as much credit as you can. How much credit did Clinton take for the huge economy we had while he was in office? He couldn't stop talking about it. Last I checked Clinton didn't make Amazon.com and Yahoo.com or any of the other tech stocks that erupted and fueled the economy to new heights (and helped it crash some when they came back to earth), but he was sure quick to take the credit. Right now Bush is in trouble. His approval rating is at an all time low. He is blaming everyone. it is the fed for having interest rates too high or too low. It is the democrats for trying to block his programs. It is the terrorist for making him invade countries and spend all our money. It is the Chinese for running up the price of oil. If things were great and he were popular he would be taking credit for all the good stuff that happens.

[Colonel_Angus]

Originally Posted by mikeyddddd

That's a copout and you know it.

It's a fact, not a "copout".

The Federal Reserve is dumping money into the economy and devaluing the dollar. The President has nothing to do with it.

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by Colonel_Angus

It's a fact, not a "copout".

The Federal Reserve is dumping money into the economy and devaluing the dollar. The President has nothing to do with it.

damn photoshop !!!!!


President Bush, is flanked by Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, left, and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke.


and all these false news .... :

WASHINGTON - In proposing the broadest overhaul of financial oversight since the Great Depression, the Bush administration has kicked off a fierce debate. It pits those eager to revamp an antiquated system against an industry opposed to excessive regulation.

The administration is aware of the hardening lines. The 200-page plan set for release Monday comes with the financial system in the midst of the most severe credit crisis in two generations.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23853415/

All this smoke to get the best president of the USA past, present and future look bad ... must be the far far very far liberal pinheads ...

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by Colonel_Angus

So instead they bitch about abstract nonsense like Iraq that doesn't really affect any of us.

Ask parents kids who died if it did not affect them.

[slapass]

Originally Posted by Colonel_Angus

It's a fact, not a "copout".

The Federal Reserve is dumping money into the economy and devaluing the dollar. The President has nothing to do with it.

The fed can set rates but the treasury is the one printing money and dumpingit into the economy. When you lower taxes and forget to reduce spending it runs a deficit and when you just print cash to cover it, it devalues the $$$. Amazing huh? Sort of makes the first two things you mentioned as positives into a really big fuck up.

[Bdiddy]

Originally Posted by Colonel_Angus

1. He reduced income taxes.
2. He cut capital gains taxes.

This puts money back into the hands of "We The People" where it belongs, instead of in the hands of government parasites.

These simple actions have a HUGE positive effect for most Americans. As a productive American who works full time and invests in the stock market, the Bush Presidency has been very nice to me and every other competent, hard-working American.

Of course most liberals don't realize this because they tend to be either naive young college students, government workers, unemployed, or rich trust funders (in other words, they don't live in the real world). So instead they bitch about abstract nonsense like Iraq that doesn't really affect any of us.

He then turned around and spent so much money that the fed had to create dollars at an alarming rate, they stopped reporting M3 and the rampant increase in dollars created has led to to the shitcanning of the US dollar in the forex in turn negatively effecting EVERY aspect of the economy. Congrats to the winners!

He lowered taxes but then ensured our grandchildren will be paying off his debts...if you want to not go into a major depression I suggest you get that thumb out of your ass. imho

[polster]

yeh we are better off because:

I. Cost of living has sky rocketed while buying power of the middle class has gone to shit.

Not just gas prices:
"Food prices generally have been rising at an annual rate of nearly 5 percent in recent months, a pace not seen since the early 1990s. Milk prices jumped 11 percent last year; chicken prices 6 percent, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

But neither can match eggs: Prices soared 29 percent in 2007"

II. Wages of middle class is not keeping up with inflation

III. White collar jobs are being outscourced to India

IV. Bringing in Foreign workers to replace americans in the highly compensated IT marketplace. These fucken CEOs argue they cant find qualified candiates which total bulshit off coarse.

V. The disparity between the rich and poor is probably at the greatest point in the history of United states.

VI. 40% of Govt spending goes to funding the military industrial complex. which has never been seen before when there is no war going. Occupation of IRAQ at this time doesnt mean there is a war.

VII. Bush has one of the lowest approval ratings for any president in modern history.

[tony286]

Originally Posted by polster

yeh we are better off because:

I. Cost of living has sky rocketed while buying power of the middle class has gone to shit.

Not just gas prices:
"Food prices generally have been rising at an annual rate of nearly 5 percent in recent months, a pace not seen since the early 1990s. Milk prices jumped 11 percent last year; chicken prices 6 percent, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

But neither can match eggs: Prices soared 29 percent in 2007"

II. Wages of middle class is not keeping up with inflation

III. White collar jobs are being outscourced to India

IV. Bringing in Foreign workers to replace americans in the highly compensated IT marketplace. These fucken CEOs argue they cant find qualified candiates which total bulshit off coarse.

V. The disparity between the rich and poor is probably at the greatest point in the history of United states.

VI. 40% of Govt spending goes to funding the military industrial complex. which has never been seen before when there is no war going. Occupation of IRAQ at this time doesnt mean there is a war.

VII. Bush has one of the lowest approval ratings for any president in modern history.

good points

[farkedup]

it sucks that the NEXT president will get blamed for having to raise taxes to fix all this shit Bush fucked up.

1) absolutely no way to pay for Iraq Invasion
2) Schools are a joke
3) healthcare is a worse joke than schools.

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by Colonel_Angus

1. He reduced income taxes.
2. He cut capital gains taxes.

This puts money back into the hands of "We The People" where it belongs, instead of in the hands of government parasites.

These simple actions have a HUGE positive effect for most Americans. As a productive American who works full time and invests in the stock market, the Bush Presidency has been very nice to me and every other competent, hard-working American.

Of course most liberals don't realize this because they tend to be either naive young college students, government workers, unemployed, or rich trust funders (in other words, they don't live in the real world). So instead they bitch about abstract nonsense like Iraq that doesn't really affect any of us.

YOU = RETARD

99% of the tax cuts went to the top 1%. There for 99% of "the people" did NOT benefit from them.

You should just shoot yourself. Hopefully you didn't breed your stupidity into another generation. If you did please have your spawn sterilized before you off yourself.

[tony286]

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/31/us...wA&oref=slogin
this is a sign how good things are

[farkedup]

Originally Posted by tony404

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/31/us...wA&oref=slogin
this is a sign how good things are

?We?ve had poverty here for a good while,? Ms. Sorbet said. Contributing to the rise, she added, Michigan, like many other states, has also worked to make more low-end workers aware of their eligibility, and a switch from coupons to electronic debit cards has reduced the stigma.

there NEEDS to be more of a stigma, maybe if they're more ashamed to use the foodstamps they'd work harder?

working 1 job 40hrs or less isn't enough if you need food stamps, time to get a SECOND job!

Back in the days of foodstamps being those paper bill type things I used to buy them from other kids in my school for $.5 on the dollar and had a backpack full of candy/snacks that I would sell at lunch time and between classes. if the item was $1 it took $2 in foodstamps which I used when going to the store to buy a bunch more shit LOL fuck I would fork out $10 for $20 worth of foodstamps and got all my supplies half off ;)

shit I'd still gladly buy foodstamps from some drug addicts or some shit but these days those cards are good for CASH assistance too.

[Kard63]

Originally Posted by Colonel_Angus

True. It would have been nice if he slashed spending as well, but the tax cuts are a good start.

good start? it was good right then for some people I guess. it wasnt good for the future.

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by farkedup

there NEEDS to be more of a stigma, maybe if they're more ashamed to use the foodstamps they'd work harder?

working 1 job 40hrs or less isn't enough if you need food stamps, time to get a SECOND job

FIRST jobs in some areas are hard to find let alone 2. Even if you can find then often they won't let you have a scheudle that's works out.

Also I thought the GOP was about FAMILY VALUES. What kind of family values are you preaching when your answer to poverty is to have the parent s NOT spend time with thier families?

Where is your outrage at welfare that is given out to farmer and corporations? Welfare is welfare. You do realize farmers are paid by the government NOYT to grow things. In other words they are paid NOT to work. Where is the outrage?


Someone willing to work 40 hours weke should not have to be on foodtamps. os it's obvious wages need t be higher. By the way higher wages mean those same peole would be eligble for LESS food stamps or perhaps NONE. So higher wages kind of sovles the whole welfare thing on it's own doesn't it?

[cykoe6]

Originally Posted by Colonel_Angus

1. He reduced income taxes.
2. He cut capital gains taxes.

This puts money back into the hands of "We The People" where it belongs, instead of in the hands of government parasites.

These simple actions have a HUGE positive effect for most Americans. As a productive American who works full time and invests in the stock market, the Bush Presidency has been very nice to me and every other competent, hard-working American.

Of course most liberals don't realize this because they tend to be either naive young college students, government workers, unemployed, or rich trust funders (in other words, they don't live in the real world). So instead they bitch about abstract nonsense like Iraq that doesn't really affect any of us.

Good post.

[pornask]

Originally Posted by GatorB

YOU = RETARD

quoted for truth

[SDSimon]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

damn photoshop !!!!!


President Bush, is flanked by Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, left, and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke.


and all these false news .... :



All this smoke to get the best president of the USA past, present and future look bad ... must be the far far very far liberal pinheads ...

?All this smoke to get the best president of the USA past, present and future look bad?

ROFLMFAO!

I?m going to assume that your last statement was made to make me laugh so hard that I fall out of my chair.

It worked, thanks so very much.

The only thing that would make me happier , is if you will share whatever you have in your bag.

>>>Winners WIN because they NEVER GIVE UP!<<<

[Kevsh]

Originally Posted by Colonel_Angus

Of course most liberals don't realize this because they tend to be either naive young college students, government workers, unemployed, or rich trust funders

Would you define a liberal as a Democrat? If so, then I guess about 50% of the population are in college, out of work, govt employees and wealthy trust funders? The math doesn't add up ... and it's a ridiculous generalization to begin with.

abstract nonsense like Iraq that doesn't really affect any of us.

There's nothing abstract about *billions* of dollars a month that are being spent in Iraq. Where is all that coming from? And there are 4000 dead Americans, each with families and friends. I'd say that affects plenty of people.

Your whole argument is the type of ignorant, brainwashed trash that Bush supporters spew out constantly. He's going to go down as one of the worst presidents in your country's history. He's fucked up just about everything he's laid his hands on. He's a disaster. Period.

Now go out and vote for McCain so you can get 4 more years of misery for the US people.

[tony286]

Originally Posted by GatorB

FIRST jobs in some areas are hard to find let alone 2. Even if you can find then often they won't let you have a scheudle that's works out.

Also I thought the GOP was about FAMILY VALUES. What kind of family values are you preaching when your answer to poverty is to have the parent s NOT spend time with thier families?

Where is your outrage at welfare that is given out to farmer and corporations? Welfare is welfare. You do realize farmers are paid by the government NOYT to grow things. In other words they are paid NOT to work. Where is the outrage?


Someone willing to work 40 hours weke should not have to be on foodtamps. os it's obvious wages need t be higher. By the way higher wages mean those same peole would be eligble for LESS food stamps or perhaps NONE. So higher wages kind of sovles the whole welfare thing on it's own doesn't it?

a fucking men. Also they are the we are a Christian nation people, Jesus said whatsoever you do to the least of my brother that you do unto me. Guess they forgot that one.

[Poindexterity]

1- Made it OK for morons to pronounce nuclear, "nucyelar"
2- Without George as a model to work from, Will Farrel would
not have made me laugh quite so hard over the last few years.

(i never liked the al gore impression SNL had working.)

[SilentKnight]

Using GW Bush and 'great' in the same sentence is WAY too early for an April Fools joke.

I must be hallucinating again.

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by cykoe6

Good post.

YOU = RETARD ALSO

please kill yourself and all spawn you produced. Society must be saved from your recessive gene pool.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by Colonel_Angus

1. He reduced income taxes.
2. He cut capital gains taxes.

This puts money back into the hands of "We The People" where it belongs, instead of in the hands of government parasites.

These simple actions have a HUGE positive effect for most Americans. As a productive American who works full time and invests in the stock market, the Bush Presidency has been very nice to me and every other competent, hard-working American.

Yea, and by the looks of things, all of that turned out real nice.