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Incompetent Design Companies Must Die!!!
I have spent the better part of 3 week now dealing with many of the ‘Design Companies’ we have on this board. The first ‘company’ turned out to be some guy living in his mom’s basement that was even unable to ‘outsource’ the job. The second ‘company’ I paid been working on a 2-4 hour flash job for what they say is 14 hours now. Yet the simple flash vidos in the graphics is full of distortions even though it is really of Small size in perimeters.
What am I to do now? I could have learned Flash My fucking self by now and be able to avoid dealing with what seems is a lot of Lazy Incompetent worthless mother fuckers in the first place. I mean really I know these people are notorious for their inability to Read, but this was a True “Monkey see Money do Job” no creativity really at all, just a bigger copy of what another guy had done. (that other guy being the last guy I paid 3 years ago) ![]() |
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Welcome to GFY and the industry.
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I need to stop dealing with anyone that has to use Paypal in the first place, if the CC will not deal with U and they will deal with ME and my Fucked UP Porn then....................
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I make more money fixing security holes and bad php code from "adult coders" then I ever did programming for mainstream companies.
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Ya we really get the Shit end of the stick. Not sure why too, Porn in general want and create some of the most graphically intense sites of all. Yet a majority of adult design company’s are not companies at all, they are guys outsourcing work to people that can not read or understand the project you tried so hard to get across the “outsourcer”.
U know what really gets me is if the Only real jobs these “outsourcers” have is quality control and getting you project across to the people that Really do it. Yet they do not even really attempt to do either for the most part. |
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I may have a crazy way of posting but at least I get shit done.
Thats if I work at all and a qualified client comes along...
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I am going to give this guy one more day and see, then try to get my money back. Might really need someone in a few hours. I am not sure this guy can do anything.
Hey flash is not that Hard right? I can do PhotoShop and edit in Flash, just not sure about graphical layering in flash and motion. If I could figure these things out, I could do what I normally do (Do it MySelf) |
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What do you need done? How much is this project paying? ICQ Me. I got bills to pay not games to play
![]() You shouldn't support anyone that supports outsourcing especially outside of your own country. Can't stand idiots giving jobs to people outside of their own country when people in their own country are desperate for work. Designers are a difficult group.. forget the liars working out of their mom's kitchen... even dealing with talented experienced designers are difficult especially the good ones.. Prima Donna Ego is a problem with designers.. As a designer I find a lot of people hiring designers are not clear about what they want or don't go through the proper process to hire the right designer.. I've had people tell me how much they hate designers because they are lazy, not on-time, dissappear when the deadline pops up, etc... and then i notice the exact same qualities in THAT person.. Also none of you porno guys want to pay for anything.. and you always want yer stuff yesterday.. but don't have the content or copy for us to work with until tomorrow.. Designers get the shit end of the stick in every industry.. especially on the web..
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www.450studio.com
www.adultdesignevolution.com Both worked pretty well for me. Spent about $1.500 the last 5 days on designs and they were worth every dollar from these studios!
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Porn is Dead. Move along.
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All they had to do was cut like 20 second or something off the vids I gave them, but what they did was degrade the images of the flash vid so bad its worthless, and to cover this up they did the same thing to ALL the graphics on the page. I want to Kick them in the ASS!!!!!!! |
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If I have to get my money back I can give you guys 130$ for this job. You can look at it first, should not take all that long as will not take too much thought as all paths and video editing have working examples. 2 Clip to cut/editi into flash that are only like 25 seconds long to start with too
Its really not that big of a job, I just need to get it done is all, I made the updated tour myself but can not add the flash is all ![]() |
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I did try a few bigger guys, but they only want to do Whole tours will not do the update, or said they do not have time right now.
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affordablesitedesigns.com Refuses to fix the job or refund my money. I have no choice but to pay yet another person if you want this job and can actually work with flash and not a lying piece of shit trying to take advantage of webmasters then hit me up
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I will be posting the 'job' they did and just know this guy likes to get paid per hour and this took 14 hours for him to do
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That's shitty man, wish i could help but flash isn't in my toolbox. Good luck findin a real designer.
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I know he could not even make Small Flash vids look ok, it was sooooo bad. He should have not taken the job, but seems only wanted to rip me off. What Flash Job takes 14 hours? If it takes you 14 hours to do it them, U should not be working with Flash.
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Ok here is a URl with VIds he made and U can tell me if this is OK http://barelylegalguys.com/utellme.htm Sorry this site is a gay one
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PLease Someone Save me from these fuckers
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You came to me broke and on a budget, I help you out... You want more then you can afford.. Sorry, I did all I can to help you and in return you cursed me and talked down to me like I am nothing.... If you can talk to me like a grown up then contact me and we will fix your problems, but untill then there is nothing I can do for you more... You have the .fla files, them files are worth more then the $25 a piece you paid for them... |
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U took MY money gave me CRAP NO ONe would accept, then said it took you 14 hours to do it. I guess your “work” can speck for itself, and if people want work like this or to be told they are not going to fix then that is up to them.
U made this, and U think it looks good than that is all I need to know. I will pay another person, but I think the monitor on this board should look into what’s going on here. |
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Do we have some kind of GFY Bad Business Burro around here? Its not right for people to do this, he is not even denying this is his work he will not fix. Should this person be allowed to contract Flash Job’s on this board is a question I am asking right now?
http://barelylegalguys.com/utellme.htm His work again |
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Bad Business Donkey?
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Any Quality Designers what a Job? These vids are not hard, nor is this job I just need someone that is capable of working with flash
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All i did was lose 100$ to somone that did about 15min of work, if you say you worked on it more than that, it should show why you should not have taken the job to start with. NO reason to do a job like this other than the fact U can not do it, ask anyone that can do flash. |
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My guys can do this job perfect if you are willing to pay for it, but you told me you are broke and can only afford to pay $100, we gave you what you paid for! |
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Then why take the job, talking to a guy now that says he can have it done in 3 hours NP. Just cuzz you suck and want to only do work worth seeing if people happen to guess the right amount U want for a job. I do not have a crystal ball, and if you can not do a good job you should not take the job.
U did a Bad job, just because you did not ask for the right amount? Cuzz anyone can do better than U did. I think you’re a FAKE and rip people off |
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I bet the people that bitch about illegal tube sites outsource their design work to third world sweat shops. |
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And your only problem really is you can not talk to me like a normal person about what you have issues with... You send me these mile long emails cursing me and then expect me to bend over again to make you happy... Sorry, I won't do that! The guy you are talking to can take the .fla files I have giving you and improve them in three hours, but he can not rebuild them from scratch in three hours! I promise you that! So now we have came to this point where you are about to give the files we created to another designer to improve on... Meaning you are going to use the files I sold you! And you want a refund? No way... |
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Why would you hire a designer without looking at their portfolios? That is, after all, why designers have portfolios.
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Those Flash video's are a joke.
I am really confused. How did trimming the length of the clip lower the quality soo much? The started off as flvs... and it doesn't matter how much he paid. Yes he only paid $25 but you agreed to $25.. You are in the wrong with sending back clips that look like that.. you kno in your mind they are useless...
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Also rotating a movie clip like that is going to degrade the quality a lot.
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I am talking to my designer now and he is explaining to me what the issues are... Here is a paste from the convo..
Ken2: what!? Ken2: really? Ken2: http://twinkguy.com/tour02.htm Ken2: that one is also pixelated and it is the original that he had before I did anything Ken2: besides if i made them any better in quality the filesize would reach 1mb or higher Ken2: it's a 20 second clip Ken2: that would load like forever on some people's connection Ken2: and the colors look fine on my screen, do they look different on your screen? Ken2: he must either have an ancient crt monitor or he's really meticulous Ken2: he exported a different set of slices there Ken2: not my slices Ken2: that is why they don't match in color Ken2: and that is not our problem anymore, their fault Ken2: they must be using different color profile in photoshop Ken2: i'm using web standard srgb profile |
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If Max would just be nice about things and talk to me instead of trying to smear me everywhere the issues could be fixed...
But he has done nothing but swear at me and call me all kinds of names... |
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U had to Cut the clip to make it smaller, Do you still not get it? Come on man..............
BTW I have found someone to Totaly redo this job, and they are working on it now ![]() I will post the good job too, but I will let it go really. But man if you pay these people to do Flash STOP NOW. They Suck |
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All this for 100 bucks?
Who should I bill for following this thread?
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Looks OK to me. Maybe the quality of the footage could be improved is the source footage is clearer? What are you giving this guy to work with? If that footage is even 3 times compressed its gonna look like shit no matter what is done to it. Just up the output quality on the export Jon maybe thats the problem? May result in a bigger file. Just trying to help here.
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