Epassporte!

[Ray@TastyDollars]

Thank you!

Thank you for finally weeding out scammers and cheaters! Great move guys!

Ray

[Kenny B!]

I second that! Asking for an ID, the nerve some people have. I guess Xian Cho Ming will have issues getting paid on his 1:3 conversions now.

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by Kenny B!

I second that! Asking for an ID, the nerve some people have. I guess Xian Cho Ming will have issues getting paid on his 1:3 conversions now.

They are asking for more than just an ID........

[Fabien]

You're fucking kiddie here boys ?

Ostie WAKE UP TABARNAKE

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by Ethersync

They are asking for more than just an ID........

Paypal asked for even more....

[DWB]

And ID or two is ok, but all the other shit... not even my banks asked for so much.

Besides, I can fake any of those documents and send them to them as an image with no sweat. This will NOT cut out any scammer who knows his way around photoshop.

[DWB]

In fact, all I have ever had to give for any bank is ONE ID and proof of address, which can be a utility bill of any kind. Account open.

[Fabien]

Bingo !
If you send this sum of info you're CRAZY !!!!!

Don't come around here whining about stuff that will happen to you in a near futur.

[Nookster]

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

This will NOT cut out any scammer who knows his way around photoshop.

Isn't that like 0% of them? Have you seen some of the crap images they make?? LOL

[Ray@TastyDollars]

No doubt that its a pain in the ass, took 30 minutes out of my busy schedule LOL. But its well worth it.

Kill all scammers





before we do LOL

[fuzebox]

Err can someone explain to me why everyone is all upset? I keep seeing "this amount of info", but I haven't seen any amount of info worth getting pissy over...

Let's see, ID, utility bill, front and back of cc, with numbers blacked out... Isn't that it? I've had hosting companies ask for more.

[Doctor Dre]

Dude they are asking for IDs of people who made more then 5000 $ over the year, this won't do NOTHING to the scammers.

[tranza]

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

I can fake any of those documents and send them to them as an image with no sweat. This will NOT cut out any scammer who knows his way around photoshop.

I agree 100% with what you said.

[StuartD]

Yeah, all those 5 year old clients who've done 10's of thousands in business will finally get what's coming to them, those dirty scammers.

[Ray@TastyDollars]

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

Dude they are asking for IDs of people who made more then 5000 $ over the year, this won't do NOTHING to the scammers.

If that is true then that is very stupid of them. I really hope they apply the same rules to 5k and under.

Originally Posted by StuartD

Yeah, all those 5 year old clients who've done 10's of thousands in business will finally get what's coming to them, those dirty scammers.

Those clients should not have a problem producing the docs they need. The whiney little bitches might have a problem....but most wont.

[Chris]

i dont see how this is weeding out scammers
not everyone got it
only people who have had more than 5k sent thru there account over time.

Scammers switch up accounts

[StuartD]

Originally Posted by Ray@TastyDollars

If that is true then that is very stupid of them. I really hope they apply the same rules to 5k and under.



Those clients should not have a problem producing the docs they need. The whiney little bitches might have a problem....but most wont.

Should not... but some do, as they ask for old or out dated info. And yes, it's for $5k+ people only.
All the new accounts that have swiped hundreds from folks require no such proof.

[Ray@TastyDollars]

Originally Posted by Ray@TastyDollars

Those clients should not have a problem producing the docs they need. The whiney little bitches might have a problem....but most wont.

Actually, most spend more time bitching on GFY than it would take to complete the request. Fucking comical LOL

have a good weekend everyone!

[Chris]

Originally Posted by Ray@TastyDollars

Those clients should not have a problem producing the docs they need. The whiney little bitches might have a problem....but most wont.

i have a problem providing all the documents AGAIN
when they said them self yes they do keep the documents for future reference
they can go back 1 month and see i just submitted all this shit and i really have to do it again?

i submitted something
a picture saying ive already done this

on every document request
lets see how they respond.

[Chris]

Originally Posted by StuartD

Should not... but some do, as they ask for old or out dated info. And yes, it's for $5k+ people only.
All the new accounts that have swiped hundreds from folks require no such proof.

all my info was out dated
i hit up my contact
he said just put in the new info in your acct and upload that info and it will be good even tho it is requesting for the old info

[Ray@TastyDollars]

Originally Posted by StuartD

Should not... but some do, as they ask for old or out dated info. And yes, it's for $5k+ people only.
All the new accounts that have swiped hundreds from folks require no such proof.

IF that is true I retract my statement. Can someone from epass clarify this?

Anyway, be back tomorrow...im late

[Pleasurepays]

you guys crack me up. banks don't just arbitrarily ask for account holder information. they do it for reasons... like oh... being investigated and threatened by the State Department to be listed for being a money laundering bank and being subject to an audit... or for being involved with clients committing financial crimes... or maybe just for something like FINALLY cracking down on Epassporte for being the premier choice for facilitating illegal gambling transactions.

how do you know your not being drawn into a Federal Investigation into epassporte's support of offshore gaming... which then puts every single transaction you have made under a microscope even though you have nothing to do with it? hope you've kept your nose perfectly clean... chances are the IRS (or any western tax authority) has an information sharing agreement with your country as well.

how do you know the spotlight isn't on you, your account and your transactions? how do you know it won't be soon?

some of you people have the common sense and what seems to be the life experience of a caged hamster.

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by Chris

i have a problem providing all the documents AGAIN
when they said them self yes they do keep the documents for future reference
they can go back 1 month and see i just submitted all this shit and i really have to do it again?

i submitted something
a picture saying ive already done this

on every document request
lets see how they respond.

Same here wasn't very long ago I had to do this. Sent them a nice fresh ID the other day. Pain in the ass to have to do all them again.

Makes me a bit nervous if they "lost" the docs I already sent to be honest.

[Ole76]

try to watch this move (if you havent did this before)
good stuff about IRS and PRivacy

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

[wyldblyss]

Originally Posted by Ray@TastyDollars

If that is true then that is very stupid of them. I really hope they apply the same rules to 5k and under.



Those clients should not have a problem producing the docs they need. The whiney little bitches might have a problem....but most wont.

I think you are missing the point. Lets spell it out to clarify.

Epassporte believes, that in order to get rid of those damn scammers, target the people that have had accounts open for years with zero complaints and no issues.

Leave the NEW account owners alone, until they reach 5K or have scammed enough to walk away from the account.

In my logical mind...that is like the cops hanging outside of the church after sunday mass pulling over everyone to look for drunk drivers and not bother hitting the bar across the street where the drunk are falling out of the door.

What the fuck, just give them your info...think about WHAT you are giving them...you are telling them how much you have in your bank account, how much you pay people. You are giving them your credit card statement with your credit limit on it, how much you owe, how much you pay a month, where you shop etc. Not only that, is you are giving them a permanent record of the front and back of your credit cards. Now you should know this...but people that get our credit card information ENCRYPT it...epassporte doesn't bother with such "useless" security issues...they will store the informatiom offline...like in an office...that can be broken into at any time. So your friendly neighborhood theif breaks in and lets see what he has...your bank statements, credit card statements, copies of your signature, where you shop, credit limits....everything he needs to know to take over your identiy including a copy of your passporte. Now if that does not make alarm bells ring in your head....then you need to wake up.

If epassporte was SO WORRIED about security...why would they not think "damn, we can't have all this info lying around the office"

As much as epass is concerned about security, each account holder should also be concerned...and if that makes me a whiney little bitch, then I will gladly accept that "name calling" because if you ever do business with me..this whiney little bitch is going to make sure everything is secure for BOTH of us.

[Fabien]

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Same here wasn't very long ago I had to do this. Sent them a nice fresh ID the other day. Pain in the ass to have to do all them again.

Makes me a bit nervous if they "lost" the docs I already sent to be honest.

Outchhhhhhhhhhhhh
Mate, do me a favor DON'T SEND IT AGAIN !!!
Why would you need to send this again ?
Geeeeeeeeee you're really looking for trouble !
No shit !

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by Fabien

Outchhhhhhhhhhhhh
Mate, do me a favor DON'T SEND IT AGAIN !!!
Why would you need to send this again ?
Geeeeeeeeee you're really looking for trouble !
No shit !

Not really any alternatives, and I have a ton of affiliate accounts that pay with epass that Im lucky if I can remember how to login half the time. Its less hassle for me this way, and I have nothing to hide like gambling money coming in, or money I didnt report, so they can have at it. Just a pain in the ass is all. Ive never really had an issue with epass, and have supported them throughout the years. I just dont like doing things twice.

[HairToStay]

Originally Posted by wyldblyss

Now you should know this...but people that get our credit card information ENCRYPT it...epassporte doesn't bother with such "useless" security issues...they will store the informatiom offline...like in an office...that can be broken into at any time. So your friendly neighborhood theif breaks in and lets see what he has...your bank statements, credit card statements, copies of your signature, where you shop, credit limits....everything he needs to know to take over your identiy including a copy of your passporte. Now if that does not make alarm bells ring in your head....then you need to wake up.

If uploaded, where do they store this info? Can the packets be sniffed? If major retailers lose this info, what's not to say a small operation like ePass can't be "hacked" easily?

[Fabien]

indeed !!!!! Imagin if a pissed off employee gets his hands on this !
OMG

[HairToStay]

Originally Posted by Ray@TastyDollars

Thank you!

Thank you for finally weeding out scammers and cheaters! Great move guys!

Ray

How so?

NEW accounts don't need to provide any verification at all. From all we've read here recently, especially regarding Viet Nam signups, they are all new accounts doing fraudulent things.

If people, like me, who have had their account for 5+ years were going to defraud, don't you think we would have already done it?

If I had $2k going through my account every day, I could see someone wondering about money laundering ...

Let's say I have $1k in my account and I send in all the documentation. 2 weeks later someone 'hacks' into my account and takes out the funds. The money goes to a new account who pulled it out of the ATM and has no bank account on file, so ePass says, "sorry, we can't do anything."

What will having my documentation on file do to get my money back and prevent scammers and cheaters from taking my funds?

[RayBonga]

Originally Posted by Ray@TastyDollars

Thank you!

Thank you for finally weeding out scammers and cheaters! Great move guys!

Ray

Are you serious?

They are asking this info dor accounts that have been around for years and never had a single problem.

On the other hand they have nothing to match the information sent against. I live outside the US, I could just print some fake bank statments and ID and photoshop a credit card and they be happy with it.

How will it help catch any scammer? Did you just post the first thing that came to your mind?

To me what they are doing is abusive to their clients and plain bad business

[Ray@TastyDollars]

Ohhhh puuuuuulease LOL. Let talk about the REAL reason why you are bothered by this. Some of you have lived 100% of what you collected off Epass, how many of you have not declared any earnings at all LOL?

You have fucked the system for years and now it's Epassportes fault, fucking classic reaction of the people who frequent this biz lol.

You didn?t know this day would come, I mean really? Get ready folks, the tax man is coming!

Get yourselves a good tax lawyer oh and enjoy your weekend. Bub bye!

[mattz]

Not to hard to send in a copy of an id

[Pleasurepays]

Originally Posted by Ray@TastyDollars

Ohhhh puuuuuulease LOL. Let talk about the REAL reason why you are bothered by this. Some of you have lived 100% of what you collected off Epass, how many of you have not declared any earnings at all LOL?

You have fucked the system for years and now it's Epassportes fault, fucking classic reaction of the people who frequent this biz lol.

You didn?t know this day would come, I mean really? Get ready folks, the tax man is coming!

Get yourselves a good tax lawyer oh and enjoy your weekend. Bub bye!

hahah... exactly.

ePassporte is requesting specific documentation from Account Holders in an effort to comply with our bank?s Know Your Customer and Anti-Money Laundering policies

this statement implies that they didn't have such policies prior to 2008, or didn't follow them... and particularly didn't adopt similar due diligence policies post 9/11 as every reputable, established bank on the planet did (and as most were forced to).

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by Ray@TastyDollars

Thank you!

Thank you for finally weeding out scammers and cheaters! Great move guys!

Ray

Have you really thought it through? these guys will know about you than your own mother with all the info they are requesting...

It isn't that simple. For some of us concerned about scammers and security, sending all of this information to epassporte and not knowing how secure it is is a bit disconcerting. For example, they want your credit card statement...no big deal right? Well, that statement gives them information like your credit limit, how much you owe on your card, what kind of payments you make on your card, where you shop, how much you charge etc. Is it necessary for them to have this info? How will knowing this information improve security? My bank lets me cash very large checks, I have never shown them more than my SS number and drivers license and they didn't keep a copy of them.

Then there is the bank statement...gee...they get to see how much you have in your account...how much your income is (at least from deposits), see who you work for, who you spouse works for (by direct deposits from employers), see what bills you pay (hence how many credit cards you pay). Where do you spend your money and how much do you spend it on....

Now I don't know about you, but I don't see how this information...that you send via the internet to an unsecure location...to unknown individuals that store a copy of it online? or copies in filing cabinets...or wherever...that is accessed by how many individuals...is going to prevent a scammer from scamming.

The main concern here is security right......ok....how secure is the information we give them...and why is so much information requested? Where does verification end and phishing begin? Epassporte might be worried about security (there is a first for everything) but should the people that have to provide that information ALSO worry about the information they provide, how it is going to be kept private and secure? Could you imagine if someone broke into their offices and/or hacked them online how much information that is NOT encrypted they will have access to? People should be very afraid.

[HairToStay]

Originally Posted by Ray@TastyDollars

Ohhhh puuuuuulease LOL. Let talk about the REAL reason why you are bothered by this. Some of you have lived 100% of what you collected off Epass, how many of you have not declared any earnings at all LOL?

You have fucked the system for years and now it's Epassportes fault, fucking classic reaction of the people who frequent this biz lol.

You didn?t know this day would come, I mean really? Get ready folks, the tax man is coming!

Get yourselves a good tax lawyer oh and enjoy your weekend. Bub bye!

Not all of us cheat on our taxes.

Since none of the documentation required asks for a social security number or my tax ID number ... and if this pertained to taxes, they would have asked it of everyone, not just certain people, no?!

But you still did not respond to how this will stop scammers and thieves since those tend to be NEW signups and they are asking for this from old timers.

[V_RocKs]

Originally Posted by u-Bob

Paypal asked for even more....

???

Paypal never asked for my ID.

Never asked for photocopies of anything.

[nikki99]

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

Dude they are asking for IDs of people who made more then 5000 $ over the year,

lol, then that is why they didn´t ask me for any documents

[Ron Bennett]

ePassporte is basically operating in the same manner as PayPal when it comes to verification.

PayPal basically lets anyone signup and even do small transfers, but once their activity exceeds a certain level, then PayPal will demand ID, paperwork, etc much the same as ePass is doing.

ePass is doing this to comply with the law ... in my view, it's NOT for fraud prevention...

If it truly was, ePass would require ID, paperwork, etc from ALL accounts, including brand new accounts...

As of now, if my understanding is correct, people can still signup and use ePassporte without submitting any documentation...

In that regard, ePassporte and PayPal are very much alike - so if one doesn't trust PayPal with their personal info, they likely shouldn't trust it with ePassport either.

Ron

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by Ron Bennett

ePassporte is basically operating in the same manner as PayPal when it comes to verification.

PayPal basically lets anyone signup and even do small transfers, but once their activity exceeds a certain level, then PayPal will demand ID, paperwork, etc much the same as ePass is doing.

ePass is doing this to comply with the law ... in my view, it's NOT for fraud prevention...

If it truly was, ePass would require ID, paperwork, etc from ALL accounts, including brand new accounts...

As of now, if my understanding is correct, people can still signup and use ePassporte without submitting any documentation...

In that regard, ePassporte and PayPal are very much alike - so if one doesn't trust PayPal with their personal info, they likely shouldn't trust it with ePassport either.

Ron

I've done thousands per month with paypal, never had to send in a thing.

[Ron Bennett]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

I've done thousands per month with paypal, never had to send in a thing.

Is that money from sales on Ebay or simply PayPal transfers? That makes a difference.

Also, do you spend much of your PayPal back into PayPal or do you withdraw it to your bank account in large chunks ... are you exceeding $5K in withdrawals per month... if yes, you've simply been lucky...

You may be thinking along the lines of "hey, I do thousands every month with PayPal, so they value my business, and they wouldn't hassle me" ... don't be so confident - there are many reports of even Ebay powersellers doing far larger volume with fantastic feedback, excellent reputation, no unresolved paypal disputes getting hassled by PayPal out of the blue.

Check out the PayPal discussion forum on Ebay (they own PayPal) for many of the horror stories, and numerous glitches, many of which most don't know anything about... two examples below:

* PayPal sometimes will take money from one's account via ACH (eCheck) anyways even though one has specified a different payment method, such as credit card.

* Old, or even random, "ship to" address can sometimes appear in one's PayPal profile - this can lead to situations in which a seller unknowingly ships to the wrong address, and buyers can be left wondering why they didn't get their item despite the seller insisting they did.

Ron