WTF is with DomainNameSystems.com's 5 Day Grace Period! - GoFuckYourself.com

MovieMaster · 05-14-2008, 11:20 AM

I am out of town and I come back 7 days after a domain expired while most if not all stand up registrars have a standard policy of 30-60 grace period to renew a name before it enters a drop or resale cycle.... After 5 days they open it up to their other clients to jack your domain name... Absolute bullshit!!! Will never use their shit again!

roly · 05-14-2008, 11:30 AM

according to icann it's 45 days http://www.icann.org/compliance/faq.html

good luck in getting it sorted

Ron Bennett · 05-14-2008, 12:09 PM

Not sure I'd put much faith in that FAQ. A lot of what it says is simplistic and doesn't apply to all situations.

Ie. Many domains do NOT enter the deletion cycle, but rather are simply assigned to new registrants...

On a related note, some "drop" services have provisions in their agreements (or an unwritten policy) that allows for the original registrant to recover their expired domain (if never entered the deletion cycle) even after it's sold within a period of time, such as 30 days.

Bottom line is registrars have a lot of leeway, including setting the amount of time a registrant has to renew after expiration. Can be as short as zero, though 10 to 30 days is more typical.

Ultimately, it comes down to what the registrar agreement says, and how badly you want the domain name back - with some creativity, some persistence, and willingness to spend some extra $$$, very often "expired" / "lost" domains can be recovered.

Ron

Compdoctor · 05-14-2008, 02:04 PM

On another note, DNS has been noted to keep my domains for longer without letting them go, because I forgot it. I was able to pay the normal fee and gain my domain back.

MovieMaster · 05-14-2008, 04:25 PM

We'll see how it goes... emailed them and hopefully get this resolved thanks for the info Ron. Worst case will have to call one of the domain lawyers.

dready · 05-14-2008, 07:12 PM

Good luck, that guy is a total scumbag. If you give him a hard time, he'll fuck you out of spite.

dready · 05-14-2008, 07:16 PM

Once that is resolved, get all your domains as far away from that fucker as possible.

BlackCrayon · 05-14-2008, 07:18 PM

Wow. 5 days is crazy. You should be able to get it back for a fee at least if nothing else. Unfortunately ICANN lets registrars get away with pretty much anything.

BVF · 05-14-2008, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MovieMaster

I am out of town and I come back 7 days after a domain expired while most if not all stand up registrars have a standard policy of 30-60 grace period to renew a name before it enters a drop or resale cycle.... After 5 days they open it up to their other clients to jack your domain name... Absolute bullshit!!! Will never use their shit again!

which is why i checked for any expired domains and renewed a domain BEFORE I went on vacation.

CyberHustler · 05-14-2008, 08:15 PM

Ouch... 5 days?

Spunky · 05-14-2008, 08:30 PM

Didn't you get a expiry notice 2 months previous?

roly · 05-15-2008, 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunky

Didn't you get a expiry notice 2 months previous?

that's not the issue is it. yes he should have renewed before or had it on autorenew, but we all make mistakes. he should be given a reasonable grace/redemtion period and he's not.

05-14-2008, 11:20 AM	#1
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05-14-2008, 12:09 PM	#3
Ron Bennett Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,653	Not sure I'd put much faith in that FAQ. A lot of what it says is simplistic and doesn't apply to all situations. Ie. Many domains do NOT enter the deletion cycle, but rather are simply assigned to new registrants... On a related note, some "drop" services have provisions in their agreements (or an unwritten policy) that allows for the original registrant to recover their expired domain (if never entered the deletion cycle) even after it's sold within a period of time, such as 30 days. Bottom line is registrars have a lot of leeway, including setting the amount of time a registrant has to renew after expiration. Can be as short as zero, though 10 to 30 days is more typical. Ultimately, it comes down to what the registrar agreement says, and how badly you want the domain name back - with some creativity, some persistence, and willingness to spend some extra $$$, very often "expired" / "lost" domains can be recovered. Ron __________________ Domagon - Website Management and Domain Name Sales

05-14-2008, 02:04 PM	#4
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05-14-2008, 04:25 PM	#5
MovieMaster Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 897	We'll see how it goes... emailed them and hopefully get this resolved thanks for the info Ron. Worst case will have to call one of the domain lawyers. __________________ 100% Exclusive Program Babe-Bucks.com = HotModelClub.com \| NextDoor-Models.com Payments by: CCBILL ICQ Three 02 Five 638 Five 6 ReliableServers.com - NEED BANDWIDTH?

05-14-2008, 07:12 PM	#6
dready Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 5,247	Good luck, that guy is a total scumbag. If you give him a hard time, he'll fuck you out of spite. __________________ ICQ: 91139591 Last edited by dready; 05-14-2008 at 07:14 PM..

05-14-2008, 11:30 AM	#2
roly Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,844	according to icann it's 45 days http://www.icann.org/compliance/faq.html good luck in getting it sorted

05-14-2008, 07:16 PM	#7
dready Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 5,247	Once that is resolved, get all your domains as far away from that fucker as possible. __________________ ICQ: 91139591

05-14-2008, 07:18 PM	#8
BlackCrayon Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ottawa Posts: 19,631	Wow. 5 days is crazy. You should be able to get it back for a fee at least if nothing else. Unfortunately ICANN lets registrars get away with pretty much anything. __________________ you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

05-14-2008, 08:15 PM	#10
CyberHustler Unregistered Abuser Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 25,809	Ouch... 5 days?

05-14-2008, 08:30 PM	#11
Spunky I need a beer Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ♠ Toiletville ♠ Posts: 133,934	Didn't you get a expiry notice 2 months previous? __________________ *YOUR INFORMATION HERE*