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Old 06-01-2008, 03:09 PM   #1
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The “stupidest affiliate member area” award goes to Platinum Bucks

Why why why? All that useless flash, rolling round thing and database that takes forever to pull stats. Useless shit and wasted money and time.
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Old 06-01-2008, 03:11 PM   #2
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Old 06-01-2008, 03:43 PM   #3
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Old 06-01-2008, 03:46 PM   #4
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yeah, i agree. I was surfing to their site and just as silvercash they open up another fucking window. I'm so tierd of that shit, if I want another browserwindow, I fucking open it myself.
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yeah tried promoting them but their backend was so wack i gave up ...
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Old 06-01-2008, 04:18 PM   #6
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yeah tried promoting them but their backend was so wack i gave up ...
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Old 06-01-2008, 08:00 PM   #7
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Old 06-01-2008, 08:20 PM   #9
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yeah, i agree. I was surfing to their site and just as silvercash they open up another fucking window. I'm so tierd of that shit, if I want another browserwindow, I fucking open it myself.
Yes those two programs bug me too, I really hate sites that force you to pop a new window because of how I have my desktop laid out.
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Old 06-01-2008, 08:53 PM   #10
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Sucks that the larger pioneer programs suck such monkey balls.

PlatinumBucks is what is wrong with adult sites today..
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Old 06-02-2008, 01:39 AM   #11
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it takes forever just to check stats. a simple plain html page would be so much better.
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Old 06-02-2008, 01:41 AM   #12
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It is a bit much. But if their sites convert...
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Old 06-02-2008, 01:58 AM   #13
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i've always thought i was the only one annoyed with PB and SC stats
very hard and time consuming to use.

Here is a good lessons for affiliate programs
make your stats easy to use, very informative
the more time an affiliate spends on the stats analyzing them, they more traffic they'll send. More time does not mean frustrations from slow loading, hard to understand stats.

In short, learn from NATs. Best stats barnone !
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Old 06-02-2008, 02:03 AM   #14
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The more time an affiliate spends on the stats analyzing them, they more traffic they'll send. More time does not mean frustrations from slow loading, hard to understand stats, flash, bells and whistles, popups, inability to sort by site, date, tracking code...
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Old 06-02-2008, 02:11 AM   #15
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I find that programs thinks that they need to "impress" affiliates with all this fancy flash shit quite amusing..

We are webmasters, NOT SURFERS!... We want effectivity, not cool flash pages that takes forever to load stuff that is more or less useless..
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Old 06-07-2008, 02:21 PM   #17
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Just like Silvercash. It takes fucking 10 mins to get some galleries from the webmaster area. Its horrible. They spend so much time and programming on that shit while a simple static html page wouldve done the trick.
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Guy if they're making money who cares.. I mean I understand your complaint but it's not that important in the big scheme of things.



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I must agree to. Their sites convert great for me, but pulling a linkcode or checking stats just is so anoying, especially the new window.
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Old 06-07-2008, 03:25 PM   #21
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i've always thought i was the only one annoyed with PB and SC stats very hard and time consuming to use.
I had exactly the same feelings
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I must say I'm not a fan of that backend either.

Plus their ratios sucked so much balls I stopped promoting them years back.

mind on the other hand I guess they don't give a fuck - they're too busy counting all their money and building horribly ostentatious, stupid looking, nigga rich swimming pools in their back yards
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i dont understand why affil programs need flash for their sites. webmasters only care about logging in quick, grabbing banners and codes. its more of a pain
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Guy if they're making money who cares.. I mean I understand your complaint but it's not that important in the big scheme of things.



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yup brad....this is the dumbest thread ever

obviously lots of people figured out how to use it....platinum bucks is seen all over the net

oh & i got some promo's from platinum-bryan a couple weeks ago with no issue

I didn't even login the site, i just hit up my rep & asked for creatives....its amazing how easy it is to ask people for shit when its their job
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For all those that say it doesn't matter I registered, took one look, never went back.
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Old 06-07-2008, 09:04 PM   #26
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thats the reason why i dont promote these 2 companies.. platinum & silvercash.
It is really frustrating.. and infact, i thought i was the only one..
I guess not.
Not to even talk of their tours with the big WEBMASTERS MAKE CASH links on SC & email grabs.. crap.

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Why why why? All that useless flash, rolling round thing and database that takes forever to pull stats. Useless shit and wasted money and time.
Sounds like Silvercash. For me, doing anything in Silvercash takes 5 times longer than it should, because of all the flash. I dread everytime I need to actually login and grab some new linking codes.
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i suggest if anyone wants to use platinum bucks they simply hit up the affiliate reps

it makes shit at any program about 100x easier

you just hit them up & say "hey please get me such & such links"
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I could never understand why programs spend premiums or time designing all those flash headers in affiliate areas - I block all of them. Give me a updates news section and content and thats all I want or need.
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yup brad....this is the dumbest thread ever

obviously lots of people figured out how to use it....platinum bucks is seen all over the net

oh & i got some promo's from platinum-bryan a couple weeks ago with no issue

I didn't even login the site, i just hit up my rep & asked for creatives....its amazing how easy it is to ask people for shit when its their job
Why don’t you get yourself slower ISP like AOL just because they are known all over the world. Now that’s stupid.
There are programs out there just as big as PB but they don’t feel its necessary to have extra funk to load DB or have extra window. Its all about usability. Its not like those sites make me go “wow, I’ve never seen that shit before”… Kink loads just fine for me, and would assume they are a lot bigger than platinum bucks.
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i dont understand why affil programs need flash for their sites. webmasters only care about logging in quick, grabbing banners and codes. its more of a pain
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I concur. Since NATS has come along finally everyone else (non-developers/tech) is now realizing the true ease of how things can be when well coded software meets efficiency. Maybe 10 years ago it was good practice to use a lot of flashy graphics and "get-er-done" coding, but man you have to roll with the times.
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I predict they show up soon and say "we're working on something new and fantastic".

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and then when another program makes a simple back end with no flash and not many graphics, some of you all will come in and whine about that shit too.


(all that money they make and look at their shitty back end) blah blah blah......
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Guy if they're making money who cares.. I mean I understand your complaint but it's not that important in the big scheme of things.



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Constructive feedback is welcomed always.

We at Platinum Bucks strive to make the best experience possible for our webmasters, and also make our webmasters the most money while we are doing it.

If our backend stats are not doing that and are to slow and confusing then we take that feedback openly.

We don't have any changes upcoming, but feedback is always welcomed and in future updates we'll take it into account.
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Have you guys seen the new NATS backend. Shit is crazy but incredibly simple.
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i didn't have much trouble using either program.. PB has a really cool CSV dump, and silvercash is fairly straight forward
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It's not bad after you get use to the system. Everyone freaks out if its not nats these days. I like the change. I also dig fuckyoucash.com and that new design.
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i suggest if anyone wants to use platinum bucks they simply hit up the affiliate reps

it makes shit at any program about 100x easier

you just hit them up & say "hey please get me such & such links"
unless you are on the other side of the world and their sales reps are in bed

Don't really have a problem with it though, only thing I hate about programs in general is the lack of referring stats.
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There are still people who actualy promote platinum bucks ?
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By sales volume they would absolutely be among the largest, KlenTelaris.

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Just like Silvercash. It takes fucking 10 mins to get some galleries from the webmaster area. Its horrible. They spend so much time and programming on that shit while a simple static html page wouldve done the trick.
Agreed. It is such a pain to pull hosteds that I have never bothered to get them up for either program.
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Platinum Bucks has a massive amount of products.
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yup brad....this is the dumbest thread ever

obviously lots of people figured out how to use it....platinum bucks is seen all over the net

oh & i got some promo's from platinum-bryan a couple weeks ago with no issue

I didn't even login the site, i just hit up my rep & asked for creatives....its amazing how easy it is to ask people for shit when its their job
Hey pr0, long time no see

I have to disagree with your comments here though. While there is no debating the size of PB and yes, I'm sure if you hit up their reps they will be able to assist you, the point of the thread was about people being turned off from the program due to the archaic/overkill (flash) backend.

Let's say they get a new webmaster who can send only 2 sales a day. He signs up because he hears their sites are good, but gets frustrated at the backend and tryign to get to his creatives or his stats to load, whatever the issue is (I don't use them myself so just saying in general). He decides to give up and try another program.

Now let's say 10 guys do the same thing. That's a loss of 20 sales/day to PB which could easily have been gained. Will that hurt their program, I doubt it. However I'm sure they would never mind increasing their sales (if they do, well then yes this discussion is pointless hehe).

Not to mention potentially losing bigger webmasters as well, some who check their stats multiple times a day to analyze things about their traffic and get fed up of the load times, I'd wager might go someplace else. They won't be hitting up their rep multiple times a day to ask the rep to pull their stats for them and ICQ them over

If I'm PB, I would redo that whole affiliate interface, I bet they can boost business at least 10-20% doing so which is more than worth it.

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