Viacom vs. Google - GoFuckYourself.com

kenny · 01-07-2008, 09:26 AM

I know this is a old topic.

But is it just me or is Google basicly saying they should be allowed to steal what ever content they want?

Viacom needs to win this case IMHO.

"Since Viacom filed suit, Google has taken two tracks to finding a solution. It has crafted a legal argument saying that it should not have to meet Viacom's demands. And, at the same time, its has pursued technological solutions that would allow it to meet all of Viacom's demands.

Google bases its legal argument almost entirely on section 5.12 of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA). YouTube product counsel Glenn Brown told Internetnews.com the DMCA recognizes that if Internet companies with hosted services, such as YouTube or Google, were liable for user copyright infringement, it would be too difficult for them to grow as businesses.

The difficulty, Google argues, stems from how hard it is for a hosted service to tell when the content uploaded to its site is copyright infringing or not. Partly, this is because only copyright holders know whether their content is copyrighted or not. But also, Google argues, these copyright holders also have "weirdly" different preferences as to what they'd want Google to do with their content, once its discovered on YouTube."

http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news...le.php/3718356

kenny · 01-12-2008, 05:59 PM

I know that you guys also know this already.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/...b70759bc81346b

"Hirsch's Vivid Entertainment, the biggest name in the $12 billion-a-year adult video industry, filed a familiar-sounding lawsuit last month against PornoTube"

Don't you think these two cases will have a huge impact of the internet?

What happens if Viacom loses and Vivid wins?

Mutt · 01-12-2008, 10:12 PM

pathetic - nobody replied to this thread.

the Viacom vs Google/YouTube legal battle is the most important battle for this industry even if we are on the sidelines. A victory against Google is a victory against every porn tube site and every file hosting piece of shit operation.

Odin · 01-12-2008, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt

pathetic - nobody replied to this thread.

the Viacom vs Google/YouTube legal battle is the most important battle for this industry even if we are on the sidelines. A victory against Google is a victory against every porn tube site and every file hosting piece of shit operation.

Except the ones not in the US.

wootpr0n · 01-12-2008, 10:15 PM

Viacom already lost. They're just wasting time and money right now. Even if they had a case, these are multi-billion dollar corporations and the case would never get to trial with all of the pre-trial motions.

I mean, each side has hired 12-14 lawyers. There are almost 30 attorneys of record on the Google V Viacom case.

It's going to be even worse for Vivid, because we aren't talking about quality content here. We're talking about porn.

kenny · 05-30-2008, 06:04 AM

This site has both the complaint and answer.

http://www.markskatz.com/justiceblog...Tube-suit.html

Complaint:

http://www.markskatz.com/CP.pdf

Answer:

http://www.markskatz.com/YouTubeAnswer.pdf

01-07-2008, 09:26 AM	#1
kenny Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,245	Viacom vs. Google I know this is a old topic. But is it just me or is Google basicly saying they should be allowed to steal what ever content they want? Viacom needs to win this case IMHO. "Since Viacom filed suit, Google has taken two tracks to finding a solution. It has crafted a legal argument saying that it should not have to meet Viacom's demands. And, at the same time, its has pursued technological solutions that would allow it to meet all of Viacom's demands. Google bases its legal argument almost entirely on section 5.12 of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA). YouTube product counsel Glenn Brown told Internetnews.com the DMCA recognizes that if Internet companies with hosted services, such as YouTube or Google, were liable for user copyright infringement, it would be too difficult for them to grow as businesses. The difficulty, Google argues, stems from how hard it is for a hosted service to tell when the content uploaded to its site is copyright infringing or not. Partly, this is because only copyright holders know whether their content is copyrighted or not. But also, Google argues, these copyright holders also have "weirdly" different preferences as to what they'd want Google to do with their content, once its discovered on YouTube." http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news...le.php/3718356 __________________ 7

01-12-2008, 05:59 PM	#2
kenny Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,245	I know that you guys also know this already. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/...b70759bc81346b "Hirsch's Vivid Entertainment, the biggest name in the $12 billion-a-year adult video industry, filed a familiar-sounding lawsuit last month against PornoTube" Don't you think these two cases will have a huge impact of the internet? What happens if Viacom loses and Vivid wins? __________________ 7

01-12-2008, 10:12 PM	#3
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	pathetic - nobody replied to this thread. the Viacom vs Google/YouTube legal battle is the most important battle for this industry even if we are on the sidelines. A victory against Google is a victory against every porn tube site and every file hosting piece of shit operation. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

01-12-2008, 10:15 PM	#5
wootpr0n Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 250	Viacom already lost. They're just wasting time and money right now. Even if they had a case, these are multi-billion dollar corporations and the case would never get to trial with all of the pre-trial motions. I mean, each side has hired 12-14 lawyers. There are almost 30 attorneys of record on the Google V Viacom case. It's going to be even worse for Vivid, because we aren't talking about quality content here. We're talking about porn. __________________ Sig too big http://www.gofuckyourself.com/gfy_faqs.html Want to use a large banner in your sig??? Contact Eric about getting on as an advertiser - eric AT adult.com

05-30-2008, 06:04 AM	#6
kenny Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,245	This site has both the complaint and answer. http://www.markskatz.com/justiceblog...Tube-suit.html Complaint: http://www.markskatz.com/CP.pdf Answer: http://www.markskatz.com/YouTubeAnswer.pdf __________________ 7