If your kids broke the law would you call the police on them? - GoFuckYourself.com

Sarah_Jayne · 05-30-2008, 02:27 AM

Just listening to a radio discussion with a woman that called the police on her two grown sons after they confessed to her that they had beaten a man so bad that he lost an eye. They wouldn't go to the police so she did. They are in jail and the rest of her family won't talk to her or have anything to do with her. Do you think she did the right thing? I do but clearly from the show a lot of people don't.

xNetworx · 05-30-2008, 02:31 AM

If they are a juvenile and need to learn a lesson = maybe

If they are an adult and they are not an immediate threat = FUCK NO

Ratting out your own family is almost as low as the crime they are guilty of

After Shock Media · 05-30-2008, 02:32 AM

I guess the answer would be depends on the crime.

Though honestly I really feel I would do my best to make them decide to turn their selves in with proper council and not turn them in myself. Sort of like how a priest would handle it. However as I said it would depend on the crime. For instance if they went pedo on me I would just outright kill them myself and then turn myself in.

Sarah_Jayne · 05-30-2008, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by pimpporn

If they are a juvenile and need to learn a lesson = maybe

If they are an adult and they are not an immediate threat = FUCK NO

Ratting out your own family is almost as low as the crime they are guilty of

If somebody beat your son (even if he is an adult at the time) so badly that he lost an eye would you not want anybody that knows who did it to speak up?

The Duck · 05-30-2008, 02:37 AM

Depends on the crime like previous posters said, but in this case. Hell no.

Sarah_Jayne · 05-30-2008, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by kandah

Depends on the crime like previous posters said, but in this case. Hell no.

So, they would have actually had to have killed him for it to be serious enough?

Sarah_Jayne · 05-30-2008, 02:41 AM

I am pretty sure if I had done anything near this my mother would have killed me herself anyway.

xNetworx · 05-30-2008, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash

If somebody beat your son (even if he is an adult at the time) so badly that he lost an eye would you not want anybody that knows who did it to speak up?

Well duh, obviously I'd want somebody to speak up.

Thats not the question. If I knew my son did that to somebody, would I want to get him thrown in jail and wipe out any assets he has? NO!!!

Now if he said he was going to do it again or he was becoming an increasingly violent member of society I'd have to think about my options to get him off the streets.

JamesK · 05-30-2008, 02:44 AM

Fuck no, that's rediculous

Sarah_Jayne · 05-30-2008, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by pimpporn

Well duh, obviously I'd want somebody to speak up.

Thats not the question. If I knew my son did that to somebody, would I want to get him thrown in jail and wipe out any assets he has? NO!!!

Now if he said he was going to do it again or he was becoming an increasingly violent member of society I'd have to think about my options to get him off the streets.

Well, then would you blame the parents of the person that beat your kid for not stepping forward?

xNetworx · 05-30-2008, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash

Well, then would you blame the parents of the person that beat your kid for not stepping forward?

Nope. I'd blame the fucker that did it.

kane · 05-30-2008, 02:47 AM

Like most of the people here I would say it depends on the crime. In this case where they beat someone like that it would depend on the situation. Did is start off as self defense or did they just jump him for no reason? Regardless I would hound them heavily to turn themselves in. In the end I think if they have never had a problem with the law and they turned themselves in the punishment they get would probably be lighter than if they tried to hide and ended up getting caught.

I don't know that I would call the police on them, but I wold do nothing to help them hide.

xNetworx · 05-30-2008, 02:51 AM

The unibomber was turned in by a family member as well as several serial killers.

These type of people need to be put in jail. I think if your family member is a threat or has done extremely bad things (murder, rape, pedo) .. its only right to take them off the streets.

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-30-2008, 02:52 AM

FUCK NO!!!

not even if he/ she killed someone

Anyone who says they would put their own kids life in danger by calling the cops on them because they violated some manmade law is absolutely crazy in my opinion

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-30-2008, 02:53 AM

on a side note that teen girl who got the shit kicked out of her here in florida is wayyyy overblown

kids fight and get jumped each and every day

thats a part of growing up

I dont see what the big deal is

the little slut proanly deserved it

xNetworx · 05-30-2008, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by pussyserver

FUCK NO!!!

not even if he/ she killed someone

Anyone who says they would put their own kids life in danger by calling the cops on them because they violated some manmade law is absolutely crazy in my opinion

If you found a stash of CP and bloody handcuffs in your kids car, what would you do?

Sarah_Jayne · 05-30-2008, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by pussyserver

on a side note that teen girl who got the shit kicked out of her here in florida is wayyyy overblown

kids fight and get jumped each and every day

thats a part of growing up

I dont see what the big deal is

the little slut proanly deserved it

No idea about that case this is a UK case. If people turn a blind eye to even murder (as you said) then no wonder things are so messed up and the notion of right and wrong is vanishing.

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-30-2008, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by pimpporn

If you found a stash of CP and bloody handcuffs in your kids car, what would you do?

Borrow someone elses car next time

Bloody cuff and CP wouldnt mean he did anything

the cuffs could be from anywhere

now if he confesses to me he did somethin to a kid I would take him personaly to the jail house

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-30-2008, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash

No idea about that case this is a UK case. If people turn a blind eye to even murder (as you said) then no wonder things are so messed up and the notion of right and wrong is vanishing.

how old were the kids involved and what happened?

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-30-2008, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash

Just listening to a radio discussion with a woman that called the police on her two grown sons after they confessed to her that they had beaten a man so bad that he lost an eye. They wouldn't go to the police so she did. They are in jail and the rest of her family won't talk to her or have anything to do with her. Do you think she did the right thing? I do but clearly from the show a lot of people don't.

ok i see... and no i would not have called the cops

the family should have beat the shit out of her... or tied her to a stake and stoned her like a midevil hooker

Sarah_Jayne · 05-30-2008, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by pussyserver

how old were the kids involved and what happened?

They are grown men but her 'kids'. I think one is 27 and the other 24 or something and they together attacked a guy (no suggestion that he attacked them first or anything) and beat him to the point he lost an eye. They got two years or something like that.

Sarah_Jayne · 05-30-2008, 03:12 AM

When you were a kid if you had stolen something from a shop and your parents found out would they have made you take it back?

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-30-2008, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash

They are grown men but her 'kids'. I think one is 27 and the other 24 or something and they together attacked a guy (no suggestion that he attacked them first or anything) and beat him to the point he lost an eye. They got two years or something like that.

ok i see... and no i would not have called the cops

the family should have beat the shit out of her... or tied her to a stake and stoned her like a midevil hooker

Just like its not my place to punish my daughter for cheating on her BF, its not my place to call the cops on my kids

people die in prison

her turning them in could very well result in a death sentence

I would not be able to look myself in the morror.. seriously

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-30-2008, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash

When you were a kid if you had stolen something from a shop and your parents found out would they have made you take it back?

yes they would have.... but not if the shop owner was known to beat kids who stole from the shop

I gues what I am saying is that a parent should never put their own blood in danger.... for any reason

Sarah_Jayne · 05-30-2008, 03:15 AM

And then if they go beat somebody else and perhaps end up killing them could you look at yourself in the mirror then?

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-30-2008, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash

And then if they go beat somebody else and perhaps end up killing them could you look at yourself in the mirror then?

yes i could... as i didnt kill anyone

that is something my son would have to deal with

I understand what you are saying Sarah... its just hard for me to sacrafice my child for community standards while those who create the very laws he would be punished for commit those crimes daily

dynastoned · 05-30-2008, 03:18 AM

no i definitely would not go to the police. id handle the shit myself.

Oracle Porn · 05-30-2008, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash

If somebody beat your son (even if he is an adult at the time) so badly that he lost an eye would you not want anybody that knows who did it to speak up?

I wouldn't expect someone from their own family to rat on them....

by your posts I take it you would call the police if you were in her shoes huh?

bringer · 05-30-2008, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by pussyserver

yes i could... as i didnt kill anyone

that is something my son would have to deal with

I understand what you are saying Sarah... its just hard for me to sacrafice my child for community standards while those who create the very laws he would be punished for commit those crimes daily

are you saying those who create laws also beat up random men removing an eye in the process? i agree with what you're going for but that excuse is weak. community standards in your world wouldnt look down upon beating people?

Sarah_Jayne · 05-30-2008, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Oracle Porn

I wouldn't expect someone from their own family to rat on them....

by your posts I take it you would call the police if you were in her shoes huh?

You know, you don't know until you are in the position but I think at the stage where it was such a serious attack and they were not going to step forward then perhaps I would have to do it. Certainly if it was a murder. I am pretty sure my parents would but then I think my mother would drop dead on the spot if I ever did anything like that and she knew it to be true. I also know my parents would believe me to the end of the earth if I said I didn't do something but if I had confessed it then they would have issues of not making me face responsibility for my actions and they would certainly try to get me to come forward myself first.

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-30-2008, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by bringer

are you saying those who create laws also beat up random men removing an eye in the process? i agree with what you're going for but that excuse is weak. community standards in your world wouldnt look down upon beating people?

no im not saying they beat up random people

they do far worse

they molest kids, kill people, take advantage you name it and politicians do it

but they also create all the laws

fuck it how about a round of anarchy for all... drinks on me lol

Zuzana Designs · 05-30-2008, 03:31 AM

would really depend on the crime

kane · 05-30-2008, 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by pussyserver

Borrow someone elses car next time

Bloody cuff and CP wouldnt mean he did anything

the cuffs could be from anywhere

now if he confesses to me he did somethin to a kid I would take him personaly to the jail house

But wait a minute you just said.

"FUCK NO!!!

not even if he/ she killed someone

Anyone who says they would put their own kids life in danger by calling the cops on them because they violated some manmade law is absolutely crazy in my opinion"

So which is it? First you say you wouldn't turn them in under any circumstance, then you say you would. So there are crimes you would turn your kid in for? Where do you draw the line?

If your kid (who is an adult over the age of 18) killed someone and confessed would you turn them in?

If your kid killed a kid and confessed to you would you turn them in?

If you say no to one and yes to the other how do you decide which is which?

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-30-2008, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by kane

But wait a minute you just said.

"FUCK NO!!!

not even if he/ she killed someone

Anyone who says they would put their own kids life in danger by calling the cops on them because they violated some manmade law is absolutely crazy in my opinion"

So which is it? First you say you wouldn't turn them in under any circumstance, then you say you would. So there are crimes you would turn your kid in for? Where do you draw the line?

If your kid (who is an adult over the age of 18) killed someone and confessed would you turn them in?

If your kid killed a kid and confessed to you would you turn them in?

If you say no to one and yes to the other how do you decide which is which?

if my kid kills a child... then yes I turn them in

if my kid kills an adult then no....

I know this sounds crazy but I am being honest

kane · 05-30-2008, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by pussyserver

if my kid kills a child... then yes I turn them in

if my kid kills an adult then no....

I know this sounds crazy but I am being honest

Well, at least you are honest. The deserves some respect for sure.

StaceyJo · 05-30-2008, 04:25 AM

I think the first thing I would do is to ask where the victim is. I will cover all his medical expenses and the lost of his eyes. You know to do something from the mistake of my son... lets just say cover it up and if he wants to file a case or something well I guess I will let the law decides... just maybe...

Sarah_Jayne · 05-30-2008, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by StaceyJo

I think the first thing I would do is to ask where the victim is. I will cover all his medical expenses and the lost of his eyes. You know to do something from the mistake of my son... lets just say cover it up and if he wants to file a case or something well I guess I will let the law decides... just maybe...

how do you cover the loss of his eye?

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-30-2008, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash

how do you cover the loss of his eye?

BVF · 05-30-2008, 05:00 AM

I told my daughter that she could commit a murder and I would help her get rid of the body....I'm on her side 100% and she can tell me about ANYTHING.

Sid70 · 05-30-2008, 05:04 AM

living in UK for too long makes you crazy about the law, right?

CDSmith · 05-30-2008, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by pussyserver

if my kid kills a child... then yes I turn them in

if my kid kills an adult then no....

I know this sounds crazy but I am being honest

It doesn't just sound crazy, it is crazy. But I came to realize quite some time ago that you are one crazy dude. Your take on many issues is so skewed at times it's like you intentionally go out of your way to post craziness just to rile those present who possess an ounce of sense.

I've often wondered why some people think that just because their kid is their kid, that he/she should be allowed to get away with murder or maiming someone for life. Right is right, and wrong is wrong, period. "He's my son"... well who gives a shit. If he commits a serious crime he should turn himself in. If it's serious enough and he deserves the punishment but won't take responsibility for his actions then it's up to you as his responsible parent to help him learn the hard lessons in life.

The question is, are you a responsible parent?

Again, just because it's *your* kid, doesn't make him special or immune from the law. And the way you refer to it as "man-made laws" like they shouldn't apply to you... yeah.... they only matter to you when someone ELSE'S kid does something bad to YOUR kid. Then you're all over enforcing the law and making that kid and that family pay for it, right chief?

And before anyone starts with the twisted arguments and what-if's, my above words only apply when your kid is the one at fault or who started it etc. But even in self defence the law requires that you own up to it, which means turn your stupid ass in and face whatever music there is. A lot of people forget what honor is, and instead think running and hiding instead of facing their demons is the way to go through life. It isn't.

CurrentlySober · 05-30-2008, 05:37 AM

Depends on the crime, and the age of the child...

Good question, but a hard one to call without specifics...
But without specifics, I'd say 65% yes / 35% no...

LOK · 05-30-2008, 05:53 AM

Kids are just kids, you have to take care of them yourself untill the spen all your money and leav you alone =)))

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-30-2008, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

A lot of people forget what honor is, and instead think running and hiding instead of facing their demons is the way to go through life. It isn't.

what a bafoon

There is no honor in rating out your kid

and if a person will rat out their own kid .... imagine what they would do to me

but to each his / her own

xentech · 05-30-2008, 05:55 AM

You have to consider the circumstance, it depends WHY they beat that man up, if they did it for no reason then they are little pricks and deserve to be in prison.

escorpio · 05-30-2008, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by pussyserver

what a bafoon

There is no honor in rating out your kid

and if a person will rat out their own kid .... imagine what they would do to me

but to each his / her own

If I felt my kid was a danger to society I wouldn't be worried about my honor. You have the attitude of a criminal when it comes to "rating".

Jman · 05-30-2008, 06:03 AM

My mom called the cops on my when I was 8...

CDSmith · 05-30-2008, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by escorpio

If I felt my kid was a danger to society I wouldn't be worried about my honor. You have the attitude of a criminal when it comes to "rating".

Exactly.

Having a guy with pussyserver's character call me a buffoon is in and of itself an honor. :D

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-30-2008, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by escorpio

If I felt my kid was a danger to society I wouldn't be worried about my honor. You have the attitude of a criminal when it comes to "rating".

lets expand on this...

would you turn your mother in? Your father?

You would trust a crooked corrupt system to pass judgement on your family?

maybe resulting in their death? You would feel ok sending your mother to the electric chair? or to prison to be shanked and killed?

not me

you guys can say what you want about me but I am ok with my position on this

Only god can pass judgement on a man... thats not my job .. nor is it yours

CDSmith · 05-30-2008, 06:17 AM

More parents like pussyserver who clam up and protect their little murderers need to go to jail for aiding and abetting.

I'd be okay with that.

05-30-2008, 02:27 AM	#1
Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	If your kids broke the law would you call the police on them? Just listening to a radio discussion with a woman that called the police on her two grown sons after they confessed to her that they had beaten a man so bad that he lost an eye. They wouldn't go to the police so she did. They are in jail and the rest of her family won't talk to her or have anything to do with her. Do you think she did the right thing? I do but clearly from the show a lot of people don't.

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xNetworx So Fucking What Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Whore Island Posts: 14,445	If they are a juvenile and need to learn a lesson = maybe If they are an adult and they are not an immediate threat = FUCK NO Ratting out your own family is almost as low as the crime they are guilty of Last edited by xNetworx; 05-30-2008 at 02:32 AM..

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Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	I am pretty sure if I had done anything near this my mother would have killed me herself anyway.

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kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	Like most of the people here I would say it depends on the crime. In this case where they beat someone like that it would depend on the situation. Did is start off as self defense or did they just jump him for no reason? Regardless I would hound them heavily to turn themselves in. In the end I think if they have never had a problem with the law and they turned themselves in the punishment they get would probably be lighter than if they tried to hide and ended up getting caught. I don't know that I would call the police on them, but I wold do nothing to help them hide.

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xNetworx So Fucking What Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Whore Island Posts: 14,445	The unibomber was turned in by a family member as well as several serial killers. These type of people need to be put in jail. I think if your family member is a threat or has done extremely bad things (murder, rape, pedo) .. its only right to take them off the streets. Last edited by xNetworx; 05-30-2008 at 02:52 AM..

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pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I convert perverts like catholic church! Posts: 5,133	FUCK NO!!! not even if he/ she killed someone Anyone who says they would put their own kids life in danger by calling the cops on them because they violated some manmade law is absolutely crazy in my opinion

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pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I convert perverts like catholic church! Posts: 5,133	on a side note that teen girl who got the shit kicked out of her here in florida is wayyyy overblown kids fight and get jumped each and every day thats a part of growing up I dont see what the big deal is the little slut proanly deserved it

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