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marketsmart · 06-07-2008, 08:02 PM

Just watched the Plavic fight. The guy he fought was the number 1 contender

and he fucking sucked...

his corner threw in the towel after Lockett took a knee 3 times....

fucking joke....

MMA rules....

After Shock Media · 06-07-2008, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

Just watched the Plavic fight. The guy he fought was the number 1 contender

and he fucking sucked...

his corner threw in the towel after Lockett took a knee 3 times....

fucking joke....

MMA rules....

MMA and boxing are two separate sports and skills.

Hell I would go so far as to say if you put a top MMA fighter in a boxing ring with a mid level boxer using boxing rules the boxer would win most if not all fights.
Toss a top boxer into a MMA match with mid level MMA fighter and the MMA fighter would probably win the majority but not as often as if the above situation is reversed.

Hell I would even say most boxers have more stamina than MMA fighters.

Drake · 06-07-2008, 08:14 PM

I want to see Pavlik take on Joe Calzaghe now. I'd put my money on Pavlik. Calzaghe is quick but Pavlik is a power machine. Both have tremendous stamina.

"On May 28, 2008 it was reported that Pavlik's next title defense should he beat Lockett would be against undefeated light-heavyweight champion Joe Calzaghe, according to his promoter Bob Arum. No deal is finalized as of now." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly_Pavlik

marketsmart · 06-07-2008, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike33

I want to see Pavlik take on Joe Calzaghe now. I'd put my money on Pavlik. Calzaghe is quick but Pavlik is a power machine. Both have tremendous stamina.

"On May 28, 2008 it was reported that Pavlik's next title defense should he beat Lockett would be against undefeated light-heavyweight champion Joe Calzaghe, according to his promoter Bob Arum. No deal is finalized as of now." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly_Pavlik

yes, i am hoping this will be a much better fight... Calzaghe is a brawler...

marketsmart · 06-07-2008, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media

MMA and boxing are two separate sports and skills.

Hell I would even say most boxers have more stamina than MMA fighters.

this is changing rapidly... the conditioning for mma is getting much better...

btw, you do realize it takes a lot more energy to grapple than to stand up right?

it may seem like the guys in mma get winded quickly, but it has more to do with amount of energy used...

eightmotives · 06-07-2008, 08:28 PM

Boxing sucks ass bitch nuts.

After Shock Media · 06-07-2008, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

this is changing rapidly... the conditioning for mma is getting much better...

btw, you do realize it takes a lot more energy to grapple than to stand up right?

it may seem like the guys in mma get winded quickly, but it has more to do with amount of energy used...

It may be changing and yes grappling takes more energy than stand up. However I see many pure strikers getting winded and that is with much lighter gloves, less power punches thrown, less jabs thrown, and less weight supporting clinches.

marketsmart · 06-07-2008, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media

It may be changing and yes grappling takes more energy than stand up. However I see many pure strikers getting winded and that is with much lighter gloves, less power punches thrown, less jabs thrown, and less weight supporting clinches.

do you ever watch WEC? I think overall the guys are in better shape than the UFC.. or maybe they are just hungrier, but most of the fighters have great endurance..

After Shock Media · 06-07-2008, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

do you ever watch WEC? I think overall the guys are in better shape than the UFC.. or maybe they are just hungrier, but most of the fighters have great endurance..

Yup watch most all of it. I actually like MMA better but I still think it is very young and has much more time to mature.

Spunky · 06-07-2008, 09:10 PM

Bring back Iron Mike

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 06-07-2008, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Spunky

Bring back Iron Mike

and feed him to kimbo

goldflower · 06-08-2008, 04:18 AM

Boxing will be always for me best sports , now I training and fight in MMA ,but boxing is my first love

Boxing now dont have great time , boxing dont have at this moment great boxers and thats why boxing now is little bored and not looking good. In MMA fight always something going on , not only left jab , right jab clinch and again , jab,jab clinch. If boxing trainer/promtors dont find young guys who will be next De La Hoya , Mayweather , Barrera etc than boxing will die.

sicone · 06-08-2008, 04:22 AM

Boxing is a single refined skill while MMA is multi skilled. comparing the 2 isnt fair

notoldschool · 06-08-2008, 05:14 AM

Boxing = Boring.

roly · 06-08-2008, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike33

I want to see Pavlik take on Joe Calzaghe now. I'd put my money on Pavlik. Calzaghe is quick but Pavlik is a power machine. Both have tremendous stamina.

"On May 28, 2008 it was reported that Pavlik's next title defense should he beat Lockett would be against undefeated light-heavyweight champion Joe Calzaghe, according to his promoter Bob Arum. No deal is finalized as of now." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly_Pavlik

jeff lacey was a power machine and look what calzaghe did to him. pavlik is a similar fighter to kessler and calzghe beat him too. calzaghe has a granite chin, where as pavlik's chin isn't great. pavlik has more power, calzaghe has more skill and speed. i would bet on calzaghe winning on points in a really good fight, hope the fight gets made.

06-08-2008, 09:59 AM

Plavic is a talent. His problem is he is going to have a hard time finding great opponents for him to show his skills off with.

The first fight, the kid from PR is going to be a star.

seeandsee · 06-08-2008, 10:21 AM

Boxing went wrong after Taison!

dig420 · 06-08-2008, 10:43 AM

There are a ton of great boxers out there right now, most of you don't know about them because they only fight on PPV. Regarding Pavlik's fight, there have ALWAYS been tune-ups and suspect mandatory defenses for champions... you can't fight a monster every time out and this fight was a setup for the Calzaghe fight, as Lockett is trained by Joe's father.

The quality of fighters has only increased over the last few decades, it's boxing's exposure to the general public that has declined.

dig420 · 06-08-2008, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Vexes

Plavic is a talent. His problem is he is going to have a hard time finding great opponents for him to show his skills off with.

The first fight, the kid from PR is going to be a star.

yeah, and he took out a monster in Ponce De Leon too, I was hoping that fight would go some rounds but both of them hit too hard for it to go deep. It was all about who landed the first solid shot.

dig420 · 06-08-2008, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by goldflower

Boxing will be always for me best sports , now I training and fight in MMA ,but boxing is my first love

Boxing now dont have great time , boxing dont have at this moment great boxers and thats why boxing now is little bored and not looking good. In MMA fight always something going on , not only left jab , right jab clinch and again , jab,jab clinch. If boxing trainer/promtors dont find young guys who will be next De La Hoya , Mayweather , Barrera etc than boxing will die.

How about Cotto, Pacqiao, Juan Manuel Marquez and Lopez, Izzy Vazquez, Margarito... there is a long list of excellent fighters going right now.

Major (Tom) · 06-08-2008, 12:32 PM

it seems the science of boxing is alive and well as you see pretty good fights in the lower weight divisions, but yea, boxing needs to step it up.
mma is awesome too but everytime i watch it I can't help but feel it's trying to take on a vince mcmahon type persona while boxing stayed true for over 100 years. I hope mma dont become a real version of the wwe.
Duke

SayWhut · 06-08-2008, 03:36 PM

Joe Cortez needs to sort his refereeing skills out ...

Drake · 06-08-2008, 03:57 PM

Boxing is doing fine in the middleweight and lower divisions. It's the heavyweight division that has been lacking for more than a decade, and that's the division most people care about.

bushwacker · 06-08-2008, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike33

Boxing is doing fine in the middleweight and lower divisions. It's the heavyweight division that has been lacking for more than a decade, and that's the division most people care about.

Very true, there is nothing like watching to very good lightweights box.

johnuk · 06-09-2008, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

it seems the science of boxing is alive and well as you see pretty good fights in the lower weight divisions, but yea, boxing needs to step it up.
mma is awesome too but everytime i watch it I can't help but feel it's trying to take on a vince mcmahon type persona while boxing stayed true for over 100 years. I hope mma dont become a real version of the wwe.
Duke

It depends what org you're watching. EliteXC and Kimbo need gimmicks and personalities to sell their shitty shows whereas the UFC just has great fighters and can put on a show without any need for WWE stunts

tranza · 06-09-2008, 08:20 AM

Agreed...

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dig420 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 9,240	There are a ton of great boxers out there right now, most of you don't know about them because they only fight on PPV. Regarding Pavlik's fight, there have ALWAYS been tune-ups and suspect mandatory defenses for champions... you can't fight a monster every time out and this fight was a setup for the Calzaghe fight, as Lockett is trained by Joe's father. The quality of fighters has only increased over the last few decades, it's boxing's exposure to the general public that has declined.

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Major (Tom) Noticing Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Null Posts: 30,166	it seems the science of boxing is alive and well as you see pretty good fights in the lower weight divisions, but yea, boxing needs to step it up. mma is awesome too but everytime i watch it I can't help but feel it's trying to take on a vince mcmahon type persona while boxing stayed true for over 100 years. I hope mma dont become a real version of the wwe. Duke __________________ My mother said, to get things done You'd better not mess with Major Tom

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