Computer error prices gas at $1.40 in Ohio - GoFuckYourself.com

D Ghost · 06-27-2008, 02:35 AM

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A computer error caused a Cincinnati area service station to sell gas for $1.40 instead of $4.10... Tiffany Smith waited in line for two hours to take advantage of the deal. She says these days, her family has to decide between buying food or buying gas, and the fuel price glitch would allow her to do both.

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Jens Van Assterdam · 06-27-2008, 02:41 AM

LOL thats just awful!

J$tyle$ · 06-27-2008, 02:44 AM

Saw this sign for gas on the way back to LA from Northern Cali last week ... had to pull over and take a pic

qxm · 06-27-2008, 02:44 AM

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her family has to decide between buying food or buying gas, and the fuel price glitch would allow her to do both.

WOW ... that's painful ... even to read ...

StuartD · 06-27-2008, 02:45 AM

One more reason not to care huh?
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=837584

It makes me sick how these people toot their horns about how they just spend their money without even looking at the price of gas, they don't care, doesn't affect them... meanwhile people are having to make these choices.

It makes them no better than the war mongers and bankers and politicians who continue to line their pockets a little finer and turn their backs on the rest of us because they don't care... it doesn't affect them.

Jensen · 06-27-2008, 02:45 AM

are the wagers so insanly low in the states that people can't afford $4.10 gas?

D Ghost · 06-27-2008, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Jensen

are the wagers so insanly low in the states that people can't afford $4.10 gas?

Well yeah. You can see that rising gas prices are gouging people that are used to paying half of that for gas. But they are obviously still being paid the same.

For instance restaurants where servers are paid $2.00/hour and then the rest of the employees' wages are decided/passed on to the consumer to pay in the form of "tips"

http://www.dol.gov/esa/minwage/america.htm

Jensen · 06-27-2008, 02:54 AM

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Well yeah. You can see that rising gas prices are gouging people that are used to paying half of that for gas. But they are obviously still being paid the same.

For instance restaurants where servers are paid $2.00/hour and then the rest of the employees' wages are decided/passed on to the consumer to pay in the form of "tips"

http://www.dol.gov/esa/minwage/america.htm

kind of sick to know that a 16 year old starting at mcdonalds in norway would make $24/hour ... not saying that servers can't make that much and more over there, but the difference seemes insane

jalami · 06-27-2008, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Jensen

are the wagers so insanly low in the states that people can't afford $4.10 gas?

It's not that wages are so much lower than in Norway... it's that driving distances are insanely higher due to post-WWII rampant suburban sprawl with the entire society designed around the automobile, as well as insanely larger vehicles with huge motors that in many cases are overkill given what they are used for.

Jensen · 06-27-2008, 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jalami

It's not that wages are so much lower than in Norway... it's that driving distances are insanely higher due to post-WWII rampant suburban sprawl with the entire society designed around the automobile, as well as insanely larger vehicles with huge motors that in many cases are overkill given what they are used for.

that's true.. how are sales for smaller vehicles and hybrid cars like the prius these days?

Scott McD · 06-27-2008, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by StuartD

One more reason not to care huh?
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=837584

It makes me sick how these people toot their horns about how they just spend their money without even looking at the price of gas, they don't care, doesn't affect them... meanwhile people are having to make these choices.

It makes them no better than the war mongers and bankers and politicians who continue to line their pockets a little finer and turn their backs on the rest of us because they don't care... it doesn't affect them.

Yeah that thread was a little strange and bewildering to say the least.

What chance have we got when that's the attitude of many people??

After Shock Media · 06-27-2008, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by jalami

It's not that wages are so much lower than in Norway... it's that driving distances are insanely higher due to post-WWII rampant suburban sprawl with the entire society designed around the automobile, as well as insanely larger vehicles with huge motors that in many cases are overkill given what they are used for.

Um even without the sprawl, the fucked wages for many are a major factor.

Lets say:
Norway has 10.00 a gallon gas. New person working for McDonald's 1 hour = 24.00 and lets say round trip is 30 miles and persons car gets 30mpg. Well the first hour still placed them 14.00 ahead of round trip travel.

US has 4.75 a gallon gas. New person working for McDonald's 1 hour = 5.15 and lets say round trip is 30 miles and persons car gets 30mpg. Well the first hour still placed them .40 cents ahead of round trip travel.

Since many companies in the US do not want full time people, lets assume the person gets lucky and gets 30 hours a week. (5 days at 6 hours each). Gas sucks out 23.75 from that paycheck just for travel to work only. They earn 154.50 a week, minus the work travel and its now 130.75 (yes we are leaving taxes out of this for simple math)

Same person in same situation in Norway: Earns 720.00 a week, 50.00 a week in gas to work only. Leaving them 670.00 per week.

Person in Norway after travel expense makes 147.00 more in a week than the US worker earns in the entire month. Or shall we just say they earn 2307.00 more per month.

Keep in mind there are wages lower than 5.15 as well. Some are in the 7.25 or so range but still that does not alter anything that much so the 5.15 is best used for the example. Like I said taxes left out, but really they would not also matter much. Specially since people outside of US actually get stuff for their taxes.

GetSCORECash · 06-27-2008, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Jensen

are the wagers so insanly low in the states that people can't afford $4.10 gas?

it is, specially when you are talking about people on fixed incomes. People who are retired get as little as $400 to $750 per month, how can they live on such amounts?

D Ghost · 06-27-2008, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jensen

kind of sick to know that a 16 year old starting at mcdonalds in norway would make $24/hour ... not saying that servers can't make that much and more over there, but the difference seemes insane

yeah people are conditioned to think what they get paid is ok. well, people need to wake up

D Ghost · 06-27-2008, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Specially since people outside of US actually get stuff for their taxes.

Great point

MetaMan · 06-27-2008, 02:24 PM

We have a gas station like 2min drive from me that DOES NOT have 4 number spaces available on the sign lol, so they just leave out the 1. so itd be like 33.9/L. i guess they never IMAGINED it going over a dollar.

D Ghost · 06-27-2008, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan

We have a gas station like 2min drive from me that DOES NOT have 4 number spaces available on the sign lol, so they just leave out the 1. so itd be like 33.9/L. i guess they never IMAGINED it going over a dollar.

testpie · 06-27-2008, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Um even without the sprawl, the fucked wages for many are a major factor.

Lets say:
Norway has 10.00 a gallon gas. New person working for McDonald's 1 hour = 24.00 and lets say round trip is 30 miles and persons car gets 30mpg. Well the first hour still placed them 14.00 ahead of round trip travel.

US has 4.75 a gallon gas. New person working for McDonald's 1 hour = 5.15 and lets say round trip is 30 miles and persons car gets 30mpg. Well the first hour still placed them .40 cents ahead of round trip travel.

Since many companies in the US do not want full time people, lets assume the person gets lucky and gets 30 hours a week. (5 days at 6 hours each). Gas sucks out 23.75 from that paycheck just for travel to work only. They earn 154.50 a week, minus the work travel and its now 130.75 (yes we are leaving taxes out of this for simple math)

Same person in same situation in Norway: Earns 720.00 a week, 50.00 a week in gas to work only. Leaving them 670.00 per week.

Person in Norway after travel expense makes 147.00 more in a week than the US worker earns in the entire month. Or shall we just say they earn 2307.00 more per month.

Keep in mind there are wages lower than 5.15 as well. Some are in the 7.25 or so range but still that does not alter anything that much so the 5.15 is best used for the example. Like I said taxes left out, but really they would not also matter much. Specially since people outside of US actually get stuff for their taxes.

The problem with that is that the cost of living is significantly higher in Norway than in America - even here in the UK I'm sure an equivalent McDonald's meal costs loads more than in the USA, even when factoring in average earnings.

czarina · 06-27-2008, 02:43 PM

wow, awesome!

D Ghost · 06-27-2008, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by czarina

wow, awesome!

yeah it's great

SykkBoy · 06-27-2008, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Um even without the sprawl, the fucked wages for many are a major factor.

US has 4.75 a gallon gas. New person working for McDonald's 1 hour = 5.15 and lets say round trip is 30 miles and persons car gets 30mpg. Well the first hour still placed them .40 cents ahead of round trip travel.

Since many companies in the US do not want full time people, lets assume the person gets lucky and gets 30 hours a week. (5 days at 6 hours each). Gas sucks out 23.75 from that paycheck just for travel to work only. They earn 154.50 a week, minus the work travel and its now 130.75 (yes we are leaving taxes out of this for simple math)

also, factor in, grocery prices are going up as well because it costs more to ship them, so now what little he was already making, will be stretched even further.

tranza · 06-27-2008, 02:53 PM

Lol, I feel for the gas station owner!!

96ukssob · 06-27-2008, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by J$tyle$

Saw this sign for gas on the way back to LA from Northern Cali last week ... had to pull over and take a pic

no lie, i was at a Mobile gas station in PA and the price on the pump said the same thing... 0.009 for high test. i filled up, took a picture then disputed the charge with Amex and WON! i sent them in a picture saying that was the price they were advertising.

D Ghost · 06-27-2008, 06:29 PM

daaaaamn

After Shock Media · 06-27-2008, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by testpie

The problem with that is that the cost of living is significantly higher in Norway than in America - even here in the UK I'm sure an equivalent McDonald's meal costs loads more than in the USA, even when factoring in average earnings.

Please explain and give those numbers that go along with it. I really want to see how the cost of living is significantly higher. Also feel free to post the McDonald's prices to see if indeed they are "loads" more and in proportion to ones wages. Though I honestly would not doubt that McDonald's may be more expensive there. I would just be surprised if it was that big of a difference for daily things, and really at least almost 5 times the expense since apparently the minimum wage is nearly 5 times higher.

Ron Bennett · 06-27-2008, 10:31 PM

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The store clerk told WKRC-TV he didn’t know how to fix the problem and was having trouble reaching his store manager.

Umm, either the store clerk is dumber than a doornail ... or perhaps the clerk helped facilitate the price error?... ie. to help friends / family, for revenge, in protest, etc.

Ron

mozadek · 06-27-2008, 10:35 PM

Buy gas or buy food? How pathetic

Marky333 · 06-28-2008, 12:35 AM

The clerk is a terrorist!

testpie · 06-28-2008, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Please explain and give those numbers that go along with it. I really want to see how the cost of living is significantly higher. Also feel free to post the McDonald's prices to see if indeed they are "loads" more and in proportion to ones wages. Though I honestly would not doubt that McDonald's may be more expensive there. I would just be surprised if it was that big of a difference for daily things, and really at least almost 5 times the expense since apparently the minimum wage is nearly 5 times higher.

The main numbers I can find (on an admittedly quick scrape) seem to indicate that the cost of living is much higher. From http://www.uio.no/english/student_life/budget.html:

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You will need a minimum of approximately NOK 8 000 per month in order to cover basic expenses [...] To give you an idea of the living expenses for a student in Norway, we have put together a modest budget for one semester: (figures are approximate)

* Housing: NOK 15 000
* Food: NOK 12 600
* Books & Supplies: NOK 4 000
* Transportation: NOK 2 150 (students under 30)
* Other expences: NOK 7 700
* Total for 5 months: NOK 41 450

Obviously this guide applies to students, but you can get an idea from the figures that the one hour's worth of work at 24 NOK doesn't get you much.

According to the Big Mac Index (very fitting seeing as we are discussing McDonald's labour rates), Norway actually equates to being the second most expensive out of the countries analysed (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Mac_Index). From some figures I found on t'interweb (I know - if it's on the net it must be true...), a regular meal costs:

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Originally Posted by http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_McDonald%27s_cost_in_Norway

A regular menu is approximately 59-79 norwegian kroner. (11-16 US dollar)

which compares with (obviously you'd know more than me how accurate this figure is, as you live there) around $3-5 for a meal in an American McDonald's (I couldn't really find any half-accurate sources for this, but this forum page gave me a rough indication to the individual pricing of the different items.

Somewhere along the line I've probably confused the working rate of 24 as being NOK when it should have been USD, but there you go.

Iron Fist · 06-28-2008, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Marky333

The clerk is a terrorist!

Robbie · 06-28-2008, 08:59 AM

What I find asinine is the 9/10th's that they still put on gas prices. Yeah, I GUESS it had it's place when gas costed what it's really worth..about 50 cents a gallon. But now at over 4 dollars a fucking gallon (it cost me 64 dollars to fill up my Jeep Wrangler...what a fucking joke) what is the point of the godamn 9/10th? If you're gonna charge us $4.10 and 9/10th's why don't you just make it $4.11 for fuck's sake?

ztik · 06-28-2008, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Jensen

are the wagers so insanly low in the states that people can't afford $4.10 gas?

99% of the people are lazy fat fucks who sit on their ass

nothing wrong with the wages, its the workers

you get paid for what worth, and for most people, thats nothing

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