anyone got a Vista Laptop and installed XP instead? - GoFuckYourself.com

d-null · 06-26-2008, 09:42 AM

I am about to purchase a new laptop, and wonder if anyone here has recently bought a new vista laptop and successfully gotten rid of vista and installed XP instead?

Do you have to buy xp separately ie. pay more money, or does microsoft give credit for the op system?

xp is working great for me, and I really don't want to bother with a different os

Dirty F · 06-26-2008, 09:43 AM

Vista is so much nicer to work with than XP. Unless you need to run some special software that really doesnt work on Vista i see no reason why to stick to XP. Its faster, more stable, more options, looks nicer etc.

dodger21 · 06-26-2008, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

Vista is so much nicer to work with than XP. Unless you need to run some special software that really doesnt work on Vista i see no reason why to stick to XP. Its faster, more stable, more options, looks nicer etc.

lol............

Dirty F · 06-26-2008, 09:44 AM

Why downgrade when you get a new Laptop?

KRosh · 06-26-2008, 09:44 AM

I purchased a new Lenovo laptop and had it built with windows XP.

Just purchase it with XP, there as still many laptops out there that can be purchased this way.

If not then yes you will have to buy the software yourself and install it. There is no credit from Microsoft.

munki · 06-26-2008, 09:45 AM

I'm loving vista... give it the memory it needs, and its a great little piece of OS

stickyfingerz · 06-26-2008, 09:47 AM

Why? Ill sticky with Vista. My laptop came with Vista ultimate and its rockin. Main desktop also has Vista ultimate. And its rockin.

d-null · 06-26-2008, 09:49 AM

why should I bother with vista when there is absolutely nothing that xp can't do for me

xp is perfect for my needs, going into a different os is completely unnecessary

Dirty F · 06-26-2008, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jetjet

why should I bother with vista when there is absolutely nothing that xp can't do for me

But you are gonna bother deleting an OS and installing a new one and downgrading your computer because Vista can do all that you need as well plus some more. Yeah that makes sense man.

tranza · 06-26-2008, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jetjet

why should I bother with vista when there is absolutely nothing that xp can't do for me

xp is perfect for my needs, going into a different os is completely unnecessary

I agree with you on this one.

I also am keeping XP.

I just heard this morning that Microsoft is going to launch their new OS early 2010. It's supposed to use WAY less memory than Vista or XP. So I'll wait for it before changing my OS.

d-null · 06-26-2008, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

...and downgrading your computer....

I actually would consider it as upgrading as it is my understanding that xp is much more efficient with resources

TubeTitans_SusieQ · 06-26-2008, 10:08 AM

I just recently baught a laptop with vista....gave me a few problems, and i want to downgrade to XP but it just seems to difficult for me and i dont have more funds for it right now.

Dirty F · 06-26-2008, 10:12 AM

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I actually would consider it as upgrading as it is my understanding that xp is much more efficient with resources

Well, yes it needs some more memory. I dont know if you know it but memory costs nearly nothing anymore. I take it your new laptop comes with 2 gigs? Vista will run just fine on it.
Im really not sure what your problem is with Vista and why you would go through all that trouble to keep using XP while Vista is better.

Dirty F · 06-26-2008, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ADL_SusieQ

I just recently baught a laptop with vista....gave me a few problems, and i want to downgrade to XP but it just seems to difficult for me and i dont have more funds for it right now.

What kind of problems? Ive been running Vista for a long ass time now and never have problems. While i used to have all kinds of problems when running XP.

sexyclicks · 06-26-2008, 10:18 AM

I did the switch to XP with Dell Vostro 1700

qwe · 06-26-2008, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

Well, yes it needs some more memory. I dont know if you know it but memory costs nearly nothing anymore. I take it your new laptop comes with 2 gigs? Vista will run just fine on it.
Im really not sure what your problem is with Vista and why you would go through all that trouble to keep using XP while Vista is better.

vista is NOT better, XP is better in every way (has all the updates, SP3, ALOT less laggy, uses way less memory, does everything vista can do, all drivers up to date, etc) ... vista just looks prettier

Dirty F · 06-26-2008, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by qwe

vista is NOT better, XP is better in every way (has all the updates, SP3, ALOT less laggy, uses way less memory, does everything vista can do, all drivers up to date, etc) ... vista just looks prettier

How long did you try Vista? And laggy? Its 10x smoother than xp.
But anyway i wonder how long and what computer you tried Vista.

Lilit · 06-26-2008, 10:36 AM

When I bought my Sony Vaio it was on Vista. I needed to connect it to Internet through a network hub and here we face my first problem - I tried EVERYTHING but it didn't want to connect me. Then I read about the problem that Vista might have issues with hubs. I decided to downgrade to XP - and here's the point at which I faced my second problem. Aparently it's not that easy to downgrade because Vista uses different SATA drivers and when you try installing XP it simply doesn't see your hard drive. A floppy solves the problem, but I don't have an external floppy for laptops. My friend created an XP installation CD from the official XP CD I had and built in the driver into the installation. The headache of Vista removal really drove me nuts.

So far I'm happy with my XP and it perfectly suites my needs

qwe · 06-26-2008, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

How long did you try Vista? And laggy? Its 10x smoother than xp.
But anyway i wonder how long and what computer you tried Vista.

i had vista on laptop (core 2 duo 1.8ghz, 2gb ram, geforce 8600 512mb), switched to XP and it was flying but the sound drivers didn't work in xp so I was forced to go back to vista

KRosh · 06-26-2008, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

What kind of problems? Ive been running Vista for a long ass time now and never have problems. While i used to have all kinds of problems when running XP.

Hardware doesn?t run well on Vista (even new hardware)

The new security of Vista is overkill most of the time, being prompted for every little thing - Vista even labels existing applications as suspicious.

Lack of drivers for older and newer hardware.

Power options don't change automatically for laptops. Whether you are plugged or unplugged from a power source.

The Start Menu has been redone so it is hard to navigate and find what you are looking for.

Rebooting a Vista machine takes longer than XP.

Aero UI is great to look at, but resource hog

The many different versions of Vista will be confusing to basic computer users.

Graphic performance sucks compared to XP.

Basic functions like add/remove programs are hard to find.

VPN doesn?t work correctly.

Software that is supposed to be windows compatible shuts down randomly.

Minor changes to hardware may prevent the system to boot up.

No ?open with? when right clicking on a file.

to list just a few

Dirty F · 06-26-2008, 10:48 AM

Im gonna eat i reply later because i dont have problems with stuff you just listed.

Hustlin Entertainment · 06-26-2008, 11:05 AM

edited nevermind

stickyfingerz · 06-26-2008, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by KRosh

Hardware doesn?t run well on Vista (even new hardware)

The new security of Vista is overkill most of the time, being prompted for every little thing - Vista even labels existing applications as suspicious.

Lack of drivers for older and newer hardware.

Power options don't change automatically for laptops. Whether you are plugged or unplugged from a power source.

The Start Menu has been redone so it is hard to navigate and find what you are looking for.

Rebooting a Vista machine takes longer than XP.

Aero UI is great to look at, but resource hog

The many different versions of Vista will be confusing to basic computer users.

Graphic performance sucks compared to XP.

Basic functions like add/remove programs are hard to find.

VPN doesn?t work correctly.

Software that is supposed to be windows compatible shuts down randomly.

Minor changes to hardware may prevent the system to boot up.

No ?open with? when right clicking on a file.

to list just a few

Ok most of those are just patently false. No "open with" ? I must have a special version of vista then lol.

Dirty F · 06-26-2008, 12:05 PM

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Hardware doesn?t run well on Vista (even new hardware)

Like what? I have had no problems whatsoever. All my hardware runs fine. You make it sound like hardware in general doesnt work with Vista. This is simply not true.

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Originally Posted by KRosh

The new security of Vista is overkill most of the time, being prompted for every little thing - Vista even labels existing applications as suspicious.

This is a matter of turning it off. If you seriously call a really good OS bad because you need to turn something if what you dont like then...well then youre stupid.

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Lack of drivers for older and newer hardware.

See above

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Power options don't change automatically for laptops. Whether you are plugged or unplugged from a power source.

Im not sure what you mean with that and cant comment on it.

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The Start Menu has been redone so it is hard to navigate and find what you are looking for.

Come on man. Just turn on "classic look" Its one click. Youre points are very weak.

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Rebooting a Vista machine takes longer than XP.

Simply not true.

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Aero UI is great to look at, but resource hog

Blah blah...get 2 gigs of ram, which everybody should have no matter what OS and you wont have any problem with resouce hogs. Sorry, just not weak point. Youre reaching.

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The many different versions of Vista will be confusing to basic computer users.

I'm not even gonna comment on this

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Graphic performance sucks compared to XP.

Simply not true. If anything its better.

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Basic functions like add/remove programs are hard to find.

Its right there where it always was.

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VPN doesn?t work correctly.

Cant comment on that but based on your other points so far it looks like you never tried to work with Vista longer than 5 mins and you're just making things up to bash it for some reason.

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Software that is supposed to be windows compatible shuts down randomly.

I know what you mean, happened all the time to me in XP. Never in Vista though

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Minor changes to hardware may prevent the system to boot up.

You just made that up right?

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No ?open with? when right clicking on a file.

Where the fuck do you get your info? That option is right there where it always was?

Sorry i dont want to sound rude to you but youre either totally misinformed or i dont know what. Besides 1 or 2 points (for a part) you may be right but the rest looks like some random stuff you found while using Google searching "bash Vista for no reason".

Dirty F · 06-26-2008, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Ok most of those are just patently false.

I didnt even see your comment yet. Youre right. Most of it is just 100% bullshit.

CurrentlySober · 06-26-2008, 12:10 PM

vista makes my pee-pee go stiff....

Dirty F · 06-29-2008, 12:42 PM

Krosh, dont let me reply all that without you reading it...

Bama · 06-29-2008, 12:46 PM

I've got a laptop that still has Win98 on it.

I make'a speshul deel just'a for yooou!

Defiance Inc · 06-29-2008, 01:09 PM

Why got through the headache of wiping and installing... If you need an older OS, install virtual machine.

cotsios · 06-29-2008, 02:57 PM

buy a laptop with XP

Dirty F · 06-29-2008, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by cotsios

buy a laptop with XP

Got any good arguments for that besides following the bash Vista hype?

And i mean real arguments, not made up arguments you read somewhere.

KRosh · 06-29-2008, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

Krosh, dont let me reply all that without you reading it...

YO - i read all that.. i was just playing devils advocate

I still don't like vista. I used it on 2 separate computers and both were so fucking slow i could not work. Just my experience with Vista. I returned 2 laptops until i purchased my new Lenovo x61 with Windows XP

Dirty F · 06-29-2008, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KRosh

YO - i read all that.. i was just playing devils advocate

I still don't like vista. I used it on 2 separate computers and both were so fucking slow i could not work. Just my experience with Vista. I returned 2 laptops until i purchased my new Lenova x61 with Windows XP

How old were those computers? Vista runs faster than xp for me. And its supposed to do that. I still can only think you either didnt use it properly or on a too old computer.

KRosh · 06-29-2008, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

How old were those computers? Vista runs faster than xp for me. And its supposed to do that. I still can only think you either didnt use it properly or on a too old computer.

Brand new computers. I was in the market for a new laptop 3 months ago. I purchased 2 new laptops with Vista Premium and got rid of both. trying to run photoshop on those computers was a nightmare - it seemed that vista was such a resource hog. I had 2 gigs of RAM and running an intel core duo t-8300 2.4Ghz

One was a Sony and the other a Dell - I am very well versed on computers and hardware - I build my own and have built them for about 11 years now. I doubt that i was not using it properly

KRosh · 06-29-2008, 04:21 PM

That being said - this is a total personal preference and again I was just playing devils advocate for the sake of argument

I am DEFINITELY not one to believe the software sucks just from disgruntled windows users hence why i went and tried it out. For me, it did not work well and i went back to XP

Dirty F · 06-29-2008, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by KRosh

Brand new computers. I was in the market for a new laptop 3 months ago. I purchased 2 new laptops with Vista Premium and got rid of both. trying to run photoshop on those computers was a nightmare - it seemed that vista was such a resource hog. I had 2 gigs of RAM and running an intel core duo t-8300 2.4Ghz

One was a Sony and the other a Dell - I am very well versed on computers and hardware - I build my own and have built them for about 11 years now. I doubt that i was not using it properly

Dude why does it work for me and not for you? Vista works perfectly fine with 2 gigs. Even on 1 gig. If im here telling you it works perfect for me then what other than you did something wrong can we conclude? Vista takes some tweaking when you buy it thats for sure. But if you do that then its fast, smooth, stable and not some laggy resource hog.

You think im lying to you? You think i would say Vista works fine while it works horrible?
If it works perfect on my computer with 2 gigs and even on 1 gig computers but not for you then you did something wrong. I see no other option.

kjplays · 06-29-2008, 07:33 PM

Wow now I am really confused lol.
KJ

06-26-2008, 09:42 AM	#1
d-null . . . Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 13,724	anyone got a Vista Laptop and installed XP instead? I am about to purchase a new laptop, and wonder if anyone here has recently bought a new vista laptop and successfully gotten rid of vista and installed XP instead? Do you have to buy xp separately ie. pay more money, or does microsoft give credit for the op system? xp is working great for me, and I really don't want to bother with a different os __________________ __________________ Looking for a custom TUBE SCRIPT that supports massive traffic, load balancing, billing support, and h264 encoding? Hit up Konrad! Looking for designs for your websites or custom tubesite design? Hit up Zuzana Designs Check out the #1 WordPress SEO Plugin: CyberSEO Suite

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Lilit Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,645	When I bought my Sony Vaio it was on Vista. I needed to connect it to Internet through a network hub and here we face my first problem - I tried EVERYTHING but it didn't want to connect me. Then I read about the problem that Vista might have issues with hubs. I decided to downgrade to XP - and here's the point at which I faced my second problem. Aparently it's not that easy to downgrade because Vista uses different SATA drivers and when you try installing XP it simply doesn't see your hard drive. A floppy solves the problem, but I don't have an external floppy for laptops. My friend created an XP installation CD from the official XP CD I had and built in the driver into the installation. The headache of Vista removal really drove me nuts. So far I'm happy with my XP and it perfectly suites my needs __________________ Nadya-EuroRevenue ICQ: 400525519 nadya[at]eurorevenue[dot]com Skype: nadyay7 See who I am at AdultWhosWho

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Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Vista is so much nicer to work with than XP. Unless you need to run some special software that really doesnt work on Vista i see no reason why to stick to XP. Its faster, more stable, more options, looks nicer etc.

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stickyfingerz Doin fine Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 24,983	Why? Ill sticky with Vista. My laptop came with Vista ultimate and its rockin. Main desktop also has Vista ultimate. And its rockin.

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d-null . . . Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 13,724	why should I bother with vista when there is absolutely nothing that xp can't do for me xp is perfect for my needs, going into a different os is completely unnecessary

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Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Im gonna eat i reply later because i dont have problems with stuff you just listed.

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Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Krosh, dont let me reply all that without you reading it...

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KRosh So Fucking Outlawed Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 5,114	That being said - this is a total personal preference and again I was just playing devils advocate for the sake of argument I am DEFINITELY not one to believe the software sucks just from disgruntled windows users hence why i went and tried it out. For me, it did not work well and i went back to XP __________________ ICQ 115433750

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