How did people in Arizona cope before air-con?

[emjay]

Heatwave in Vegas this week, apparantly Arizona gets even hotter...

How the hell did people cope in the days before air conditioning?

[Alky]

Originally Posted by emjay

Heatwave in Vegas this week, apparantly Arizona gets even hotter...

How the hell did people cope in the days before air conditioning?

dry air is for pansies ;) try out humidity

[cranki]

Originally Posted by Alky

dry air is for pansies ;) try out humidity

shit's nasty

[Mutt]

Originally Posted by emjay

Heatwave in Vegas this week, apparantly Arizona gets even hotter...

How the hell did people cope in the days before air conditioning?

they didn't - nobody lived in Arizona before a/c was invented. same with Vegas.

[hypedough]

I visited Phoenix a few months ago and holy fuck that place is hot. And the natives all leave their AC's set to 80 as if that's cold. Walking 20 feet the hotel room and I was already sweating

[Mutt]

• While it was possible for California cities to boom from the single family detached formula in the 1920s and 1930s, it did not happen in Phoenix until after World War II. In 1940, Phoenix?s population had still only reached 65,000. A continuing impediment to growth was the oppressive heat which was not really solved until the arrival of air conditioning. When the FHA [Federal Housing Authority] accepted central air conditioning as part of its home mortgages in 1957, installation exploded. In part, central air penetrated the market so quickly in Phoenix because of the arrival of Motorola with its high tech manufacturing plants in the early 1950s. Those plants had been refrigerated from the outset and the engineers who moved to Phoenix to work for Motorola thought their homes should be just as comfortable as their factories.
  
• With the arrival of air conditioning, Phoenix population surged. During the 1950s it was the fastest growing city in America, rising by 311%. In 1959 alone, there were more houses built than in all the years from 1914 to 1946. By 1960, it was the largest city in the southwest with a population of 439,000

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[emjay]

Originally Posted by Mutt

they didn't - nobody lived in Arizona before a/c was invented. same with Vegas.

Gottcha. Let's just hope that the grid can cope for years to come. The resources (power and water) that Vegas uses must be enormous.

Add to that all those SUV's and thirsty V6 engines (the taxis wait in line with their engines running to power their aircon).

I have been in Vegas for nearly a week now and have not seen a single small car, like a mini. Not one.

[emjay]

Originally Posted by Mutt

• While it was possible for California cities to boom from the single family detached formula in the 1920s and 1930s, it did not happen in Phoenix until after World War II. In 1940, Phoenix?s population had still only reached 65,000. A continuing impediment to growth was the oppressive heat which was not really solved until the arrival of air conditioning. When the FHA [Federal Housing Authority] accepted central air conditioning as part of its home mortgages in 1957, installation exploded. In part, central air penetrated the market so quickly in Phoenix because of the arrival of Motorola with its high tech manufacturing plants in the early 1950s. Those plants had been refrigerated from the outset and the engineers who moved to Phoenix to work for Motorola thought their homes should be just as comfortable as their factories.
  
• With the arrival of air conditioning, Phoenix population surged. During the 1950s it was the fastest growing city in America, rising by 311%. In 1959 alone, there were more houses built than in all the years from 1914 to 1946. By 1960, it was the largest city in the southwest with a population of 439,000

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Now that's what I call a comprehensive answer. Thank you for enlightening me Mutt

[Mutt]

Originally Posted by emjay

Gottcha. Let's just hope that the grid can cope for years to come. The resources (power and water) that Vegas uses must be enormous.

Add to that all those SUV's and thirsty V6 engines (the taxis wait in line with their engines running to power their aircon).

I have been in Vegas for nearly a week now and have not seen a single small car, like a mini. Not one.

Vegas has major water problems coming I hear.

[emjay]

Originally Posted by Mutt

Vegas has major water problems coming I hear.

And yet they continue to build more and more mega-resorts..

[After Shock Media]

Originally Posted by Mutt

Vegas has major water problems coming I hear.

Coming? They have had it for years. Hell they have really had it nearly since their creation.

One thing vegas does have a lot of though is people walking, people car pooling, public transportation or forms of it like shuttles, etc. They also do encourage water savings and try to get the most out of it. Credits for no lawns and so forth.

[yys]

Originally Posted by Mutt

Vegas has major water problems coming I hear.

That whole regions growth is unsustainable and will eventually tank. Within 50 years the great lakes basin(rust belt) will see it's population return and grow. People will realize that you need water to live and that there just isn't much of it in the desert. MY but I've also heard some rather astute long term R.E. investors say pretty much the same thing.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by yys

That whole regions growth is unsustainable and will eventually tank. Within 50 years the great lakes basin(rust belt) will see it's population return and grow. People will realize that you need water to live and that there just isn't much of it in the desert. MY but I've also heard some rather astute long term R.E. investors say pretty much the same thing.

Yea I think it's crazy they aren't trying to curb the amount of people moving out there. Once the ice packs melt the entire country is gonna be in some shit because that's where 70% of our drinking water come from and all the water from the mid west.

Then you have the problem on the other end with the coastal cities. If the ice caps melt global sea level will rise and even the coastal cities will be in trouble and that's where most of the population lives.So really where do you buy real estate.

[~Ray]

Originally Posted by crockett

Yea I think it's crazy they aren't trying to curb the amount of people moving out there. Once the ice packs melt the entire country is gonna be in some shit because that's where 70% of our drinking water come from and all the water from the mid west.

Then you have the problem on the other end with the coastal cities. If the ice caps melt global sea level will rise and even the coastal cities will be in trouble and that's where most of the population lives.So really where do you buy real estate.

I got some, ocean front property in Arizona, from my front porch you can see the sea ~ george strait

[GetSCORECash]

It was the same here in Florida, it wasn't untill airconditioning that people actually decided to stay and not simply visit for the beach.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by Mutt

Vegas has major water problems coming I hear.

Vegas killed the eco system of the desert by sucking all the water out of it.

[Mr Pheer]

Heat wave this week?

Its been nice here the past couple of days. Looking at the weather channel, its not forcast to be over 106 for the next 10 days, thats nice for mid July.