Noam Chomsky on Pornography

[cykoe6]

Pornography, says the sage of MIT, is "disgraceful," "a humiliation and degradation of women." Does it matter, the interviewer wonders, that most porn performers "choose to do the job and get paid?" Chomsky offers this labored analogy in response: "The fact that women agreed to it and are paid is about as convincing as the fact that we should be in favor of sweatshops in China where woman are locked into the factory and work fifteen hours a day and then the factory burns down and they all die. They were paid and they consented, but it doesn't make me in favor of it." And for all of you porn consumers out there, Chomsky wants you to know that if you get "pleasure out of the humiliation of women [you] have a problem." So how do we improve the lot of porn performers? By banning "the degradation of woman" and "eliminating the conditions in which woman cannot get decent jobs; not permit abusive and destructive behavior."

https://youtube.com/watch?v=SNlRoaFTHuE

[tony286]

working as waitress can be much more humiliating than working in porn.

[Mutt]

i love out of touch eggheads who know nothing of which they speak

[stickyfingerz]

Noam Chomsky is a complete moron and always has been. Long before he made this retarded statement.

[tony286]

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Noam Chomsky is a complete moron and always has been. Long before he made this retarded statement.

you might disagree with man I do also but he is far from a moron.

[Princess Ellisa]

You know I loathed this guy in university, in my 3rd year English class he kept popping up and now I see just because we studied him doesn't make him brilliant... he is even more of an idiot than I originally suspected.

[xxxdesign-net]

Those who work in sweatshops do not have the choice to work anywhere else... How the fuck does that compare to the majority of porn actresses? lol While you have some porn that do humiliate women... id say most is just straight fucking.. and if fucking on camera is degrading, then he should talk about how much of a victim the porn actor is too... lol

[PR_Glen]

he has some brilliant thoughts on a lot of subjects but this is definitely not one of them. What he should have said instead was "I do not know anything about the subject so I can not make a comment on it that would have any value." but when you are thought of as a genius for too long you end up thinking you know better than everyone else on everything i guess...

[buzzy]

Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net

Those who work in sweatshops do not have the choice to work anywhere else... How the fuck does that compare to the majority of porn actresses?

Because most of them are crack addicts that can't get a job anywhere else?

[xmas13]

I've always said far left and far right are equally lethal ideologies when it comes to adult business.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0831299/
I Really Hate My Job (2007)
Plot: 'Every day is another day closer to the day I'll never have to do this again.' Five women, one restaurant...

His bio says "anarchist", "socialist" and influenced by "Karl Marx".

What did you expect from this frustrated moron? Words of praise?

[xmas13]

Chomsky should stick to his original area of expertise, linguistics.

Noam Chomsky
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)))

[xxxdesign-net]

Originally Posted by buzzy

Because most of them are crack addicts that can't get a job anywhere else?

Most of them? give me a fucking break... What sites are you joining? Dirty Danza sites? While there is certainly girls that do drugs in an excessive manner, this is for the most part a lifestyle that they chose... Not all have been raped... Plenty of webmasters here do drugs in an excessive manner.. we know some names... some very succesful.. Are they victims? No... People need to take responsibilities for their decisions and actions... Sweatshop workers in China dont have any decision to make.. Its do or die

[woj]

I always thought he is a pretty bright guy, pretty surprised he would say that..

[SykkBoy]

He's a bright guy, but it doesn't mean he's never wrong...like he is in this case...

[plsureking]

haha who's gonna agree with him on gfy

[Brujah]

He's not absolutely wrong though, there's still enough truth to what he's saying. Porn is one of the few career options that can attract those who are self-destructive and assist them in further destroying their lives.

[CaptainHowdy]

Originally Posted by Brujah

He's not absolutely wrong though, there's still enough truth to what he's saying. Porn is one of the few career options that can attract those who are self-destructive and assist them in further destroying their lives.

...

[Juilan]

Brilliant on other issues, puritanical and not progessive on this one. Nobodies perfect.

[xxxdesign-net]

Originally Posted by Brujah

He's not absolutely wrong though, there's still enough truth to what he's saying. Porn is one of the few career options that can attract those who are self-destructive and assist them in further destroying their lives.

alcohol, gambling, fast food, prescription meds, etc.. can do the same..

[Burridge]

Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net

alcohol, gambling, fast food, prescription meds, etc.. can do the same..

none of those are career options

[xxxdesign-net]

Originally Posted by Burridge

none of those are career options

the parallel is ofcourse that self-destructive or people with deep unresolved issues can also destroy their lives further with things we take for granted such as those I mentioned... Things that Id think Chomsky doesnt find immoral or unacceptable ..

[Pleasurepays]

Originally Posted by tony404

working as waitress can be much more humiliating than working in porn.

ha!

thats kinda funny... if you take personal accountability out of the decision making process... and consider that the list can certainly get long as to what is "degrading" and "humiliating" you could then use the same logic to insist that everyone who participates or benefits directly or indirectly has "a problem" which is basically everyone.

[testpie]

Originally Posted by cykoe6

https://youtube.com/watch?v=SNlRoaFTHuE

Banning the degradation of women? There goes your freedom of choice, and ergo, state of sexual equality as a woman if Chomsky gets his way...

[Burridge]

Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net

the parallel is ofcourse that self-destructive or people with deep unresolved issues can also destroy their lives further with things we take for granted such as those I mentioned... Things that Id think Chomsky doesnt find immoral or unacceptable ..

i don't think it's possible to take a career in porn "for granted". A career in porn isn't as accessible as being able to engage in gambling, eat fast food or even acquire prescription meds (legally or not).

[xxxdesign-net]

Originally Posted by Burridge

i don't think it's possible to take a career in porn "for granted". A career in porn isn't as accessible as being able to engage in gambling, eat fast food or even acquire prescription meds (legally or not).

you miss my point dude..

[pornguy]

Sadly what he says can be easily used to help shape america.

[xxxdesign-net]

Originally Posted by Burridge

i don't think it's possible to take a career in porn "for granted". A career in porn isn't as accessible as being able to engage in gambling, eat fast food or even acquire prescription meds (legally or not).

I should have said "see as normal or acceptable" instead of "take for granted"

[Trixie]

Ugh. Being anti-porn and anti-sex work is like a cult that renders even the brilliant totally fucking retarded. Not much can be more humiliating & degrading to me as a woman than some smart ass pseudo-liberal pseudo-feminist telling me I'm too fucking dumb to know what I want to do or when I'm being humiliated & degraded.

He makes it sound like I and women like me are just stupid animals who need real humans like him to do the thinking for us. It cracks me up that he can go around championing free speech when it comes to freaks who claim the holocaust never happened, but women's speech and their choices should be suppressed and limited.

Couldn't even stand to watch the video but thanks for posting something that's actually thought provoking here on GFY.

[mynameisjim]

The mainstream movie business has never chewed up and spit out any actors either. Nor has the mainstream music business created a bunch of washed up, drug addicted former stars.

The entertainment business is tough and exploitative no matter what facet you happen to be involved in.

[MediaGuy]

Chomsky uses his left-wing bias to interpret history nowadays, which is fine.

Hi wor in linguistics prior to becoming this media darling was more impressive.

This "opinion" he might have on us is ludicrous... what, is he running for office now or something?

[pr0]

people start thinking that way when their dick doesn't work anymore...

thats my theory

[ucv.karl]

He didn't know what "The Hustler" was?

So he just did the interview without taking 10 seconds and searching google?

This is self-ownage at its finest.

[klinton]

he is somehow right

[Klen]

That is complete bullshit.He said that like woman choosed to do porn as they dont have any other choice.Then why somany woman with college degree rather doing porn instead that for what they did go to college ?

[yahoo-xxx-girls.com]

Sexuality is just a part of humanity and for Noam Chomsky to make remarks that he has on the subject of ladies making their sexuality public, as being degrading; only shows his personal level of comfort on the subject. His logic seems to show a contempt for those who express themselves publicly in regards to their sexual acts. If people over 18 wish to make their lives public then why the attitude to degrade their choice of life style... Its Noam Chomsky who is putting down others in this instance...

[Trixie]

A little follow-up quote here with Howard Zinn of all people also being an idiot about sex work (with commentary from Audacia Ray):

http://www.wakingvixen.com/blog/2008...-sex-industry/

[DaddyHalbucks]

Originally Posted by xmas13

I've always said far left and far right are equally lethal ideologies when it comes to adult business.

Good point.

[Connor]

Originally Posted by tony404

working as waitress can be much more humiliating than working in porn.

So so true Tony.... you know, to be COMPLETELY honest with you, I think often it's more degrading to be the one PAYING for porn than the one being spotlighted in porn. This isn't 1970... women aren't in the same unbalanced reality that they were in 20 or 30 years ago. It's not like it's a choice between porn and starvation, as it is with the people who work in sweat shops. This quote proves that people can be smart and capable in some areas, and TOTALLY CLUELESS in others.

Some advice to Noam... no matter how much you claim to advocate for women, you're STILL not going to get laid when you look like this:



But maybe your mom will be proud.

[Connor]

Originally Posted by Brujah

He's not absolutely wrong though, there's still enough truth to what he's saying. Porn is one of the few career options that can attract those who are self-destructive and assist them in further destroying their lives.

That's not what he said though, is it....

[polish_aristocrat]

Originally Posted by cykoe6

Pornography, says the sage of MIT, is "disgraceful," "a humiliation and degradation of women." Does it matter, the interviewer wonders, that most porn performers "choose to do the job and get paid?" Chomsky offers this labored analogy in response: "The fact that women agreed to it and are paid is about as convincing as the fact that we should be in favor of sweatshops in China where woman are locked into the factory and work fifteen hours a day and then the factory burns down and they all die. They were paid and they consented, but it doesn't make me in favor of it." And for all of you porn consumers out there, Chomsky wants you to know that if you get "pleasure out of the humiliation of women you have a problem." So how do we improve the lot of porn performers? By banning "the degradation of woman" and "eliminating the conditions in which woman cannot get decent jobs; not permit abusive and destructive behavior."

sounds like Rhesus

[yahoo-xxx-girls.com]

Just how many of you have actually listened to Noam Chomsky?

He is not dumb by any means, however, he is not neutral on many of his stances even though he claims it... He points out many correlations and states them as direct relationships in his efforts to ground much of his ideas. He is both well spoken and educated, however, if you listen to him and look at his reasoning of much of what he says you see certain patterns... Its easy to convince others if you have a solid background in an area, but that does not mean the arguments being made have any grounding in reality.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Naomi Suckonmycockski who?

Out of touch Conservatives always say crazy shit like that.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

2ndly whats a broken old and ancient not been laid in years conservative supposed to say about porn? Yeah I thought so.

This thread fails.
No one gives a fuck what old people think of sex. Obviously they forgot all about what it is.

[JJota]

Thats true, far-left and far-right think the same on the porn issue.

[cykoe6]

Originally Posted by AlienQ

2ndly whats a broken old and ancient not been laid in years conservative supposed to say about porn? Yeah I thought so.

Do you just troll random nonsense? Noam Chomsky is about as much a conservative as Mao Zedong. He is a radical leftist who supported Stalin, Mao and the Khmer Rouge and is the patron saint of anti-American leftist radicals worldwide.

[MediaGuy]

I have the Noam Chomsky personal porn tape now.


Kevin Blatt are you listening?!?


:D

[yahoo-xxx-girls.com]

I wouldn't go that far, perhaps you should watch some of his interviews cykoe6 !

[Adult Creative Labs]

Chomsky is one of history's great minds, even though I think he's way off on this one and got totally owned by Foucault during that famous 70s debate.

[Z]

SuperCalaFragalisticExpyAlaFuuuuck Noam Chomsky.

[MediaGuy]

Serious.

Nobody wants to see Chomsky humping like a banshee?

You're kidding.

:D