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Old 08-24-2008, 09:34 PM   #1
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Federal Lawsuit Filed - Obama Not A US Citizen??

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Heh... Republicans will do ANYTHING...

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Actually filed by a Clinton supporter.
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Heh... Republicans will do ANYTHING...

About the guy who filed it:

Former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania (DEMOCRAT);
Former candidate for Governor and U.S. Senate in DEMOCRATIC Primaries;
Former Chair of the DEMOCRATIC Party in Montgomery County;
Former member of DEMOCRATIC State Committee;


As I said... Read the document.
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From the same guy who sued Bush and Cheney for 9/11.

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Who cares, McCain wasn't born in the US either... wouldn't vote for either of them anyway
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Who cares, McCain wasn't born in the US either... wouldn't vote for either of them anyway
He was born on a US naval base which counts as being born in the US.
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Heh... Republicans will do ANYTHING...

Probably, but this guy is a Democrat.

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Who cares, McCain wasn't born in the US either...
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Not a citizen .........




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I'm surprised this moron is still running. It's even more shocking he still has supporters. What a herd of blind sheep...
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Three hundred million US citizens and this guy is the best the Democrats can dig up?

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Old 08-24-2008, 11:09 PM   #14
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I am German, I am married to an American. My children are born in Germany and they are American Citizen because their father is American. Trust me, lots of loopholes. He is american.
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I am German, I am married to an American. My children are born in Germany and they are American Citizen because their father is American. Trust me, lots of loopholes. He is american.
its not that simple, you must be a natural born citizen to be president

All persons born in the United States, except those not subject to the jurisdiction of the U.S. government (such as children of foreign diplomats) are citizens under the Fourteenth Amendment. Persons born in the United States, and persons born on foreign soil to two U.S. parents, are born American citizens and are classified as citizens at birth under 8 USC 1401. There is some debate over whether persons who were born US citizens and are classified as citizens at birth under U.S. law should also be considered citizens "by birth," whether they should all be considered to be "naturalized," or whether they should be considered "statutory citizens." There is also some debate over whether there is a meaningful legal distinction between citizens "at birth", citizens "by birth" and "statutory citizens" since U.S. law makes no such distinction, nor does the Fourteenth Amendment use the term "at birth."

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I am German, I am married to an American. My children are born in Germany and they are American Citizen because their father is American. Trust me, lots of loopholes. He is american.
I can see that...lots of loopholes , dont know what or who to believe anymore...they should just make this man president and the USA would be a better place to live :-)

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I am German, I am married to an American. My children are born in Germany and they are American Citizen because their father is American. Trust me, lots of loopholes. He is american.
Read the documents instead of making assumptions.

To help you along... in most nations the sperm donor (father) is what citizenship is passed via jure sanguis to the children. In the US, to children born here, it does not matter (anchor babies) what the citizenship of the parents is. In Obama's case his mother was banging half the 3rd world so it is unclear what citizenships he has and where in fact he was born.

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lolol....this is interesting stuff
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I am German, I am married to an American. My children are born in Germany and they are American Citizen because their father is American. Trust me, lots of loopholes. He is american.
And they can't be President of the US.
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Really?
Yes and so are the 5,000 psychotic bitches claiming to be PUMA's because Clinton should have won. In reality they are centrist Republican leaning racist asstards.
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"Senator Obama was born in the State of Hawaii two years after it became a state on Aug.21, 1959 As such, he acquired United States citizenship automatically at birth. While it is not necessary to go into all of the other legal errors contained in the posting (and there are many), the simple fact is that, with rare exceptions (children of diplomats), everyone born in the United States is a citizen of the United States at birth."

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I'm not an Obama supporter (not a McCain supporter, either) but it's just nuts how low people will stoop. Not a citizen? Of course he is.
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That old law needs revised anyway so that Arnold can be President.
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"Senator Obama was born in the State of Hawaii two years after it became a state on Aug.21, 1959 As such, he acquired United States citizenship automatically at birth. While it is not necessary to go into all of the other legal errors contained in the posting (and there are many), the simple fact is that, with rare exceptions (children of diplomats), everyone born in the United States is a citizen of the United States at birth."

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It is amazing how many people are too lazy to read the lawsuit.

If you bothered to open the PDF you will see that it is in question if he was born in Kenya or in Hawaii. It is said that his mother was prevented (by the Kenyan authorities) from boarding the plane... thus Obama was born in Kenya.

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It is amazing how many people are too lazy to read the lawsuit.

If you bothered to open the PDF you will see that it is in question if he was born in Kenya or in Hawaii. It is said that his mother was prevented (by the Kenyan authorities) from boarding the plane... thus Obama was born in Kenya.
Don't cry about it. I'm sure he's got a Hawaii birth certificate and his citizenship is secure.
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Don't cry about it. I'm sure he's got a Hawaii birth certificate and his citizenship is secure.
You really make yourself look worse and worse with each post.
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Snopes covers the new info too, last paragraph. Do you REALLY think this lawsuit is going to change anything david? C'mon!
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Mccain wasnt born in the US

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/28/us.../28mccain.html

he was not born on US soil.

Mr. McCain’s likely nomination as the Republican candidate for president and the happenstance of his birth in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936 are reviving a musty debate that has surfaced periodically since the founders first set quill to parchment and declared that only a “natural-born citizen” can hold the nation’s highest office.
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That old law needs revised anyway so that Arnold can be President.
Hollywood might like him, but no way in hell the rest of the country would vote for him.
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No, I saw it on TV once. He becomes the President and Taco Bell wins the fast food wars.
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It's pretty sad that so many americans actually don't know the true answer.

But hey, I'm used to meeting people who think they need a passport to travel to
Hawaii. When their vacation is over they announce they are going back to "The States".
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Interesting read but anything can be written in a suit and just the filing of a suit does not make it fact. This was interesting though....

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35.After many attempts of the public to obtain Obama?s Certificate of Birth, a Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth (COLB) was placed on Obama?s campaign website. However, as posted all over the internet, three (3) independent Document Forensic Experts performed extensive Forensic testing on the Certificate of Live Birth posted on Obama?s campaign website. The Forensic Expert findings were the Certificate of Live Birth (COLB) was in fact a forgery. It was further discovered that this original Certificate of Live Birth which had been altered and forged was issued to Maya Kasandra Soetoro, born in 1970. Maya Kasandra Soetoro is Obama?s half sister who was born in Indonesia and her birth was later registered in Hawaii. The altered and forged COLB is still on Obama?s website located at http://my.barackobama.com/page/invite/birthcert
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A Mexican socialist would become president before him.
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It's pretty sad that so many americans actually don't know the true answer.

But hey, I'm used to meeting people who think they need a passport to travel to
Hawaii. When their vacation is over they announce they are going back to "The States".
Yes, if instead they said "continental states" they would suddenly get 20 extra IQ points.
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its not that simple, you must be a natural born citizen to be president

All persons born in the United States, except those not subject to the jurisdiction of the U.S. government (such as children of foreign diplomats) are citizens under the Fourteenth Amendment. Persons born in the United States, and persons born on foreign soil to two U.S. parents, are born American citizens and are classified as citizens at birth under 8 USC 1401. There is some debate over whether persons who were born US citizens and are classified as citizens at birth under U.S. law should also be considered citizens "by birth," whether they should all be considered to be "naturalized," or whether they should be considered "statutory citizens." There is also some debate over whether there is a meaningful legal distinction between citizens "at birth", citizens "by birth" and "statutory citizens" since U.S. law makes no such distinction, nor does the Fourteenth Amendment use the term "at birth."

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wher'ed u read that? off some g-d-amm piece of paper?
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Republicans did way better in 2000 ... and even better now ...
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For winning the election it appears so
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Some said they were going back to "America" so should I subtract 80 points for them.

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Old 08-25-2008, 11:44 AM   #48
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That old law needs revised anyway so that Arnold can be President.
Just proves what an idiot you are.
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Old 08-25-2008, 11:46 AM   #49
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he was not born on US soil.
Pretty sure military bases count as US soil.
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Old 08-25-2008, 12:31 PM   #50
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Demolition Man rocks. I still want to know what the 3 seashells do.
he doesn't know about the 3 seashells


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