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HELMY · 09-02-2008, 02:45 PM

Connor,

As I stated publicly right after our Vegas summer show, we are forced to move away from the month of July in 2009. Although the beginning of June has always been our ideal time of year, we?ve held it in July solely to minimize proximity with other shows. But when our attendees are literally begging us to move our show to an earlier time, we can?t ignore them ? we MUST listen and act on their feedback.

I contacted LAJ when I saw the Cybernet Expo announcement, hoping that we could figure out a way to work things out since you guys knew we?d be moving from July. Unfortunately the later months suggested by LAJ would not work for us or would pose tremendous challenges because we need sufficient time to produce our 2 winter events (February Conference & Awards).

As you know, my company continues to give Cybernet Expo coverage and promotions regardless of your personal opinion of me (as you?ve openly expressed to others in the past and continue to do).

According to LAJ you stated that I should expect to be personally (and publicly) attacked if we do not decide against our new June dates.

So, the point of this post is to let you (and the community) know that I am still prepared to disregard any personal issues and have our companies figure out a way to work things out.

Alec

Klen · 09-02-2008, 02:46 PM

Sig spot.....

tony286 · 09-02-2008, 02:48 PM

Maybe the industry is getting too many shows.

DateDoc · 09-02-2008, 02:50 PM

As GFY Turns.....

StuartD · 09-02-2008, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404

Maybe the industry is getting too many shows.

maybe????

BradM · 09-02-2008, 02:57 PM

How this kid got so much power by being such a cunt is beyond me.

undersoul · 09-02-2008, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404

Maybe the industry is getting too many shows.

sooo many shows bound to overlap. fuck this new atlanta one is just days before amsterdam. can't keep up lol

Sands · 09-02-2008, 02:59 PM

Oh look... drama. How quaint.

TDF · 09-02-2008, 03:00 PM

so many shows so little time

NickSunshine · 09-02-2008, 03:00 PM

I love your summer show Alec

Just got the new Xbiz World in the mailbox today too!
I'd love to make it up to Tahoe for the winter conference.

Hope you guys can resolve this easily.

Thanks for everything!

chemicaleyes · 09-02-2008, 03:01 PM

just passing through..

Evil E · 09-02-2008, 03:06 PM

Can't you guys just handle this like adults and not on message boards?

It makes you sound pretty unprofessional.

candyflip · 09-02-2008, 03:09 PM

Wow, real drama perhaps?

mikeyddddd · 09-02-2008, 03:10 PM

TurboAngel · 09-02-2008, 03:12 PM

Man that was a long post!

kmanrox · 09-02-2008, 03:18 PM

Alec ... STILL the man!!!!

Anthony · 09-02-2008, 03:18 PM

HELMY,

Who do I talk too about sponsorship of your summer show with the new dates?

dropped9 · 09-02-2008, 03:34 PM

sig spottus?

whatif_3 · 09-02-2008, 04:23 PM

they announced their show first, then your asking them to change their dates? or they are asking you to change yours?

imo people who announce their show first get dibs on the that date, although i can see them getting pissed if you announce yours around that time, because yours is bigger

but its bad form to try to strongarm a company into changing the dates of its show, after its been already announced

OY · 09-02-2008, 04:23 PM

Hmmmmmm....

June is much better for me as I typically is on vacation in July/August.

This year I missed out on both Xbiz and AVN show during summer months.

I hope you guys can sort it out amicably.

X Industry Jobs · 09-02-2008, 04:30 PM

Drama is everywheres

baddog · 09-02-2008, 04:35 PM

Personal attacks rock.

JFK · 09-02-2008, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TDF

so many shows so little time

indeed ....indeed

MrBro · 09-02-2008, 04:54 PM

Helmy put your show on the same exact dates as their POS show and put em out of the picture....

Fuck Conner and LAJ , they are afraid put your dates EXACTLY on their show dates ....

Bet you XBIZ show will get more people than the Cybernet thing they call a "Show"

Phoenix · 09-02-2008, 04:57 PM

heh...ill only go to a show if i know my friends will be there

i could careless whos show it is..or when it is

although finding some business could be a good thing...hmm maybe i need to rethink the shows..lol

RyuLion · 09-02-2008, 04:57 PM

I'll still go to SF no matter what..

Sands · 09-02-2008, 05:03 PM

Better idea: buy a shark, and then attach that bad boy to a catapult and launch it toward thine enemies. Flying shark attack. Then you'll get a badass nickname... HELMY the Shark. Do it.

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE · 09-02-2008, 05:04 PM

oh snap..

Anthony · 09-02-2008, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBro

Helmy put your show on the same exact dates as their POS show and put em out of the picture....

Fuck Conner and LAJ , they are afraid put your dates EXACTLY on their show dates ....

Bet you XBIZ show will get more people than the Cybernet thing they call a "Show"

As a Platinum Sponsor for The Atlanta Show, and a future sponsor for both of XBiz's shows, my thoughts are to spend money at the shows that will give me the best ROI.

I don't go to shows to hang out with my "friends", I'm there for new business and to solidify my existing ones. I will sponsor and go to the shows that will provide that.

L-Pink · 09-02-2008, 05:21 PM

XPays · 09-02-2008, 05:42 PM

do both shows in s.f. and work together? that would mean i could go to 2 shows at once in my hometown, so yes i am being selfish.

Jman · 09-02-2008, 05:44 PM

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fatfoo · 09-02-2008, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Spunky · 09-02-2008, 06:13 PM

Kick him in the knackers

Cory W · 09-02-2008, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony

As a Platinum Sponsor for The Atlanta Show, and a future sponsor for both of XBiz's shows, my thoughts are to spend money at the shows that will give me the best ROI.

I don't go to shows to hang out with my "friends", I'm there for new business and to solidify my existing ones. I will sponsor and go to the shows that will provide that.

I go for the man parties.

Anthony · 09-02-2008, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WEG Cory

I go for the man parties.

If you made the last man party, you would have known that the name has been changed too...

Manther Party.

Get with the program Frenchie!

Juicy D. Links · 09-02-2008, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jean-Francois

OK Where The Fuck is JUICY?????

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AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 09-02-2008, 08:43 PM

LOL Competition has at last reared it's ugly head regarding these so called "Adult" Conventions.

Oh my schedualing must be highly competitive these days. What not enough for you guys to have one every month now ya goto fight about how close they are to each other? ROFLMAO!

Adult Conventions must be the very last bastion of money making in the business.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 09-02-2008, 09:02 PM

So the organiser's of these conventions talk nothing but shit about each other behind the scenes as I have said they do time and time again.

And all they want is your money folks.
It's no wonder the lowest common denominator of people get in these shows these days.

I am still waiting for someone to get killed at one by an OD or shooting.

WWC · 09-02-2008, 09:37 PM

Too many shows....there should be 1 BIG show a year....you should all merge and do 1 HUGE show....you will have more people, be more effective and exciting since everyone will look forward to it :-)

seeric · 09-02-2008, 09:37 PM

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baddog · 09-02-2008, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WWC-Raffi

Too many shows....there should be 1 BIG show a year....you should all merge and do 1 HUGE show....you will have more people, be more effective and exciting since everyone will look forward to it :-)

fuzebox · 09-03-2008, 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WWC-Raffi

Too many shows....there should be 1 BIG show a year....you should all merge and do 1 HUGE show....you will have more people, be more effective and exciting since everyone will look forward to it :-)

Great idea! So... what company will put this show on?

Connor · 09-03-2008, 07:41 AM

Alec,

I am on vacation with my son.

You knew that.

I will deal with this when I get back to the office next Monday.

MaDalton · 09-03-2008, 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WWC-Raffi

Too many shows....there should be 1 BIG show a year....you should all merge and do 1 HUGE show....you will have more people, be more effective and exciting since everyone will look forward to it :-)

let's say 2 and 5 days each - one in March/April and one in September/October

MOxxx · 09-03-2008, 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404

Maybe the industry is getting too many shows.

Take "Maybe" out

Jim_Gunn · 09-03-2008, 07:48 AM

There are a lot of shows, but options are good. Although it makes it hard to schedule and choose which ones to go to. SF for Cybernet is too damn far for me anyway, I liked the one time that they had it Tampa better since I am in FL anyway.

Robbie · 09-03-2008, 07:50 AM

Yo guys...there's this cool new thing. It's called a "telephone" They even have "wireless" ones where you can call from anywhere. They are called "cell phones" They work a lot better than message boards, carrier pigeons, and/or smoke signals.

CyberHustler · 09-03-2008, 07:59 AM

HELMY · 09-03-2008, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Connor

Alec,

I am on vacation with my son.

You knew that.

Then you shouldn't have made such a statement while on vacation.

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