Jesse Ventura's Speech at Ron Paul's Rally For the Republic [video]

[StickyGreen]

Ventura is a great American... check out his speech:

Part 1:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=ym4DxWAL8Ak

Part 2:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=xMKIgbIYD48

[BV]

watched part 1 now on to part 2

very interesting about the debates the way they took it from the league of womens voters

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Ron Paul and Ventura would make a better Ticket for the Republicans than McCaine Palen LOL! Thats the fucked truth right there!

[notoldschool]

Originally Posted by AlienQ

Ron Paul and Ventura would make a better Ticket for the Republicans than McCaine Palen LOL! Thats the fucked truth right there!

Ron Paul and ACE Ventura would make a better ticket as well.

[StickyGreen]

Well the election is already set. This thread isn't about Ron Paul's failed bid for the presidency, this is about Ventura's speech. People should hear what he has to say regardless of their party and all that b.s...

[Phil21]

Ventura is one of the very few (if not the only one) politicians I actually trust to care about the country vs. a simple bid for personal power.

One of the few politicians who I would actually feel good about voting for.

It does suck he rubs so many people the wrong way though, would love to see an actual presidential bid that had half a chance.

[BV]

how did we let shit get so fucked up?

[StickyGreen]

Originally Posted by BV

how did we let shit get so fucked up?

Most people still don't get it. They think the Democrats are going to save them or something... lol...

The Democrats AND the Republicans are the fucking problem, and until people start realizing that, we are only going to keep "changing" for the worse.


Oh... and there is a part 3 of the speech also, but I think if people watch the first 2 they can figure out how to find the 3rd... hopefully lol...

[MandyBlake]

Originally Posted by Phil21

Ventura is one of the very few (if not the only one) politicians I actually trust to care about the country vs. a simple bid for personal power.

One of the few politicians who I would actually feel good about voting for.

It does suck he rubs so many people the wrong way though, would love to see an actual presidential bid that had half a chance.

i agree. he really gives a shit and it shows.

[GrouchyAdmin]

The way he piledrived the audience was awesome.

[dav3]

Originally Posted by AlienQ

Ron Paul and Ventura would make a better Ticket for the Republicans than McCaine Palen LOL! Thats the fucked truth right there!

that would be so awesome

[dav3]

[Pornwolf]

I don't give a fuck who's running in 2012, if Jesse Ventura is on the ballot I'm voting for him.

[Shagbunny]

those 2 scare me

[BV]

i'm just gonna do a write in this year, fuck it

[D Ghost]

great stuff, real americans

[davidd]

Originally Posted by BV

how did we let shit get so fucked up?

Very long topic...

Top 3 that set the ball rolling:

1. The Civil War - Although it is taught in the schools that the Civil War was about Slavery... the larger issues were States Rights and the effort to force the states to be submissive to a larger, centralized federal government. This was the start of what we have today... massive central government with limited state powers. This was completely against the constitution.

2. Woodrow Wilson - Federal Reserve act of 1913. This effectively allowed the government to print money. This was completely against the constitution.

3. FDR - The advent of Social Security, the military industrial complex, payroll taxes (which were supposed to be eliminated after WWII), etc etc. He started the age of big/massive government and the welfare state. All completely against the constitution.

[tony286]

he makes interesting points, I wish we had a strong third party.

[Malicious Biz]

Ventura would make a fucking awesome president.

[Phil21]

Interesting points davidd. Even if you do not completely agree, you can see where the logic stems. The argument can be made of course if each of those things was a net benefit or loss.

The most interesting thing to me, is that with each of those points (e.g. expansion of government power at the expense of personal liberty) they were done with the absolute best of intentions by some of the all time great leaders this country has ever seen. They also (helped) solve real, horrible problems the country was facing at those times. It makes it very difficult to argue "states rights" when in doing so, you are allowed slavery to continue. At the time, the issues were much more complex than what we see them as today.

I do somewhat wonder what the country would be like if FDR hadn't died when he did, and had a couple decades of steering the country after WWII simply by being involved in the political stage. While I certainly can be made to look at some of his policies in a different light, I still feel he was a true patriot and one of the last presidents who truly cared about the nation and it's people above all else.

[davidd]

Originally Posted by Phil21

It makes it very difficult to argue "states rights" when in doing so, you are allowed slavery to continue. At the time, the issues were much more complex than what we see them as today.

Books can and have be written about this so I will condense it into 'sound bites'. Slavery was being phased out long before the Civil War. New slaves were not allowed to be imported into the US long before the Civil War. No first world nation still has slavery - meaning it was going away and not an institution that would have or could have continued. Abraham Lincoln could have bought all of the existing slaves for a price far cheaper than the Civil War... but, again, the Civil War was about much more than slavery.

Originally Posted by Phil21

I do somewhat wonder what the country would be like if FDR hadn't died when he did, and had a couple decades of steering the country after WWII simply by being involved in the political stage. While I certainly can be made to look at some of his policies in a different light, I still feel he was a true patriot and one of the last presidents who truly cared about the nation and it's people above all else.

It is my opinion that FDR was one of the worst presidents this country ever had. His actions lengthened the depression... His actions, in regards to social programs, will bankrupt this country. His actions took a self reliant nation and forced its citizens to rely/depend on the Federal Govt... this is and was the goal. All massive changes happen during periods of great pain... as it is easier to force an agenda when people are suffering. He was one of our first Socialist leaders and his rot on our country will be felt for generations to come.

Additionally, no "true patriot" would confiscate the gold from the citizens of the US and make its ownership illegal.

Lastly, the Depression can be laid at the feet of Woodrow Wilson and the Federal Reserve act of 1913. That is why he is on my list as they are all intertwined. One action caused another and the cascading effect continues to this day.

[davidd]

The Gold Confiscation Of April 5, 1933
From: President of the United States Franklin Delano Roosevelt
To: The United States Congress
Dated: 5 April, 1933
Presidential Executive Order 6102

Forbidding the Hoarding of Gold Coin, Gold Bullion and Gold Certificates By virtue of the authority vested in me by Section 5(b) of the Act of October 6, 1917, as amended by Section 2 of the Act of March 9, 1933, entitled

An Act to provide relief in the existing national emergency in banking, and for other purposes~',

in which amendatory Act Congress declared that a serious emergency exists,

I, Franklin D. Roosevelt, President of the United States of America, do declare that said national emergency still continues to exist and pursuant to said section to do hereby prohibit the hoarding gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates within the continental United States by individuals, partnerships, associations and corporations and hereby prescribe the following regulations for carrying out the purposes of the order:

Section 1. For the purpose of this regulation, the term 'hoarding" means the withdrawal and withholding of gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates from the recognized and customary channels of trade. The term "person" means any individual, partnership, association or corporation.

Section 2. All persons are hereby required to deliver on or before May 1, 1933, to a Federal Reserve bank or a branch or agency thereof or to any member bank of the Federal Reserve System all gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates now owned by them or coming into their ownership on or before April 28, 1933, except the following:

(a) Such amount of gold as may be required for legitimate and customary use in industry, profession or art within a reasonable time, including gold prior to refining and stocks of gold in reasonable amounts for the usual trade requirements of owners mining and refining such gold.

(b) Gold coin and gold certificates in an amount not exceeding in the aggregate $100.00 belonging to any one person; and gold coins having recognized special value to collectors of rare and unusual coins.

(c) Gold coin and bullion earmarked or held in trust for a recognized foreign government or foreign central bank or the Bank for International Settlements.

(d) Gold coin and bullion licensed for the other proper transactions (not involving hoarding) including gold coin and gold bullion imported for the re-export or held pending action on applications for export license.

Section 3. Until otherwise ordered any person becoming the owner of any gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates after April 28, 1933, shall within three days after receipt thereof, deliver the same in the manner prescribed in Section 2; unless such gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates are held for any of the purposes specified in paragraphs (a),(b) or (c) of Section 2; or unless such gold coin, gold bullion is held for purposes specified in paragraph (d) of Section 2 and the person holding it is, with respect to such gold coin or bullion, a licensee or applicant for license pending action thereon.

Section 4. Upon receipt of gold coin, gold bullion, or gold certificates delivered to it in accordance with Section 2 or 3, the Federal reserve bank or member bank will pay thereof an equivalent amount of any other form of coin or currency coined or issued under the laws of the Unites States.

Section 5. Member banks shall deliver alt gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates owned or received by them (other than as exempted under the provisions of Section 2) to the Federal reserve banks of there respective districts and receive credit or payment thereof.

Section 6. The Secretary of the Treasury, out of the sum made available to the President by Section 501 of the Act of March 9, 1933, will in all proper cases pay the reasonable costs of transportation of gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates delivered to a member bank or Federal reserve bank in accordance with Sections 2, 3, or 5 hereof, including the cost of insurance, protection, and such other incidental costs as may be necessary, upon production of satisfactory evidence of such costs. Voucher forms for this purpose may be procured from Federal reserve banks.

Section 7. In cases where the delivery of gold coin, gold bullion, or gold certificates by the owners thereof within the time set forth above will involve extraordinary hardship or difficulty, the Secretary of the Treasury may, in his discretion, extend the time within which such delivery must be made. Applications for such extensions must be made in writing under oath; addressed to the Secretary of the Treasury and filed with a Federal reserve bank. Each applications must state the date to which the extension is desired, the amount and location of the gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates in respect of which such application is made and the facts showing extension to be necessary to avoid extraordinary hardship or difficulty.

Section 8. The Secretary of the Treasury is hereby authorized and empowered to issue such further regulations as he may deem necessary to carry the purposes of this order and to issue licenses there under, through such officers or agencies as he may designate, including licenses permitting the Federal reserve banks and member banks of the Federal Reserve System, in return for an equivalent amount of other coin, currency or credit, to deliver, earmark or hold in trust gold coin or bullion to or for persons showing the need for same for any of the purposes specified in paragraphs (a), (c), and (d) of Section 2 of these regulations.

Section 9. Whoever willfully violates any provision of this Executive Order or these regulation or of any rule, regulation or license issued there under may be fined not more than $10,000, or,if a natural person may be imprisoned for not more than ten years or both; and any officer, director, or agent of any corporation who knowingly participates in any such violation may be punished by a like fine, imprisonment, or both.

This order and these regulations may be modified or revoked at any time.
/s/
Franklin D. Roosevelt
President of the United States of America
April 5, 1933
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[bbm]

Which republic does he talking about?

[Phoenix]

so jesse ventura brings up these points and hes a great american...i bring up these same points over the last 6 years or so..and im a fuckin looney bin conspiracy theorist..lol

you guys crack me up

[Drake]

Definite food for thought

[Z]

I'd vote for a Ron Paul / Jesse Ventura ticket in a HEARTBEAT

[Martin]

Originally Posted by dav3

Is Ron Paul still in it. Never hear a word from his camp anymore.

[gadabout]

He is out sadly. I am still going to write him in.

[StickyGreen]

There is another Libertarian running for pres, his name is Bob Barr. I don't know too much about him yet and I doubt anyone has even heard of him.