Libertine

It should be technically possible, though it would require some work.

Embed a unique user-specific (visual?) code in all video downloads, which does not restrict playback in any way, but does identify the user. I'm not talking about meta-information here, which could easily be stripped out, but something actually integrated into the content. Make it exceedingly tedious to remove, but entirely non-intrusive for playback.

Coupled with credit card data and IP logs, it could provide specific targets for lawsuits. Moreover, with some of the tube sites where the owners are actually doing the uploads, it could very well help in proving that.

It has some downsides, of course. Password-sharing and cracking would implicate the wrong people, there'd still be ways to remove it, etc. Still, it could be a decent start.

(just thinking out loud here - nothing serious, zero research behind this)

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klaze

You would still have to get the tube site / etc. to agree to remove the content.

I dunno how long Robbie has been talking about getting his content removed from tubes and all of the content is still there..

klaze

Also just as easy it is for you to add a tag to the video file it would be just as easy to remove it.

And what if the clip is encoded from mpeg to flv for a tube and the tag is lost?

hjnet

Put an watermark with the username and IP onto it, that would stop 95% from sharing cause most users wouldn't mind doing any additional work.

But the watermakring itself would be the problem, can't think about a way to do this automatic without using way to many server resources....

notime

Here is a good read for you. (it's just being launched by Philips)
It's like CSI forensics in codecs. Works ONLINE with videos but also with pressed DVDS

http://www.business-sites.philips.co...ome/index.page

http://www.business-sites.philips.co...ogy/index.page

http://www.business-sites.philips.co...cts/index.page

resulting in:
http://www.mediahedge.com/

Philips systems even spider ALL webpages on the net and report to the content owners that work with their system.....and tracking it down to to source where it orginated from

DBS.US

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Libertine

It wouldn't be quite as easy to remove it as it would be to add it.

For example, use a dynamic visual tag that consists of a pattern of spots moving across the screen in a pseudo-random way. It's possible to add visual tags like that without them being visible to a user while watching the video. And, if it's actually part of the video, encoding wouldn't simply remove it.

It would have to use an error correction method that would require fairly large amounts of redundant data to survive extensive re-encoding and still be readable, but since the amount of information you're embedding is extremely small, that shouldn't be a problem.

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Libertine

Something similar to that, yes, though simpler.

If a standard incorporating such technology was adopted in the entire adult industry, it could help greatly in fighting piracy.

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Libertine

The idea is not to block all roads, it's to block the highway. Make it more difficult and riskier to use pirated content.

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notime

rest I put in here:
http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/853255-anti-piracy-solution-found-online-dvds-philips.html

fluffygrrl

Actually, add into this idea the subtle art of steganography, somebody could write a script to take a movie, and encode a user code - say a 256 byte hashinto every single frame.

Horribly difficult to remove if you don't know the hash you're looking for, and finding that out'd be horribly difficult.

But if you know the hash, horribly easy to check a movie for it.

seeandsee

i think all that could be fucked true convector, and your ripped video lands on ilegal tube clean.

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notime

See http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/853255-anti-piracy-solution-found-online-dvds-philips.html
Philips made something that cannot be stripped out
and its not consumer unfriendly like drm
Just fingerprint, watermarked and auto spider on entire web & p2p networks
and reported to rightfull owner if the movie is illegal

notime

In short:

If the movie HAS the Philips tech in it (wether the source is TV, cinema, dvd, online movie, etc.) you could copy it, record it with a cam, then copy it to dvd, put it back on VHS, copy it to DV, make an avi/mpg/flv/whatever from that, resize it from 640x480 to 320x240, then cut it into 3 minute clips, add effects & chomakey, edit the sound, change the colour s & gamma...and ITS still in the movie...and being spidered 24/7 across the net & P2P by huge amounts of servers that report all in a database that reports to the owners where an illegal movie is used and where now and thru who and where it originated from (sources)

fluffygrrl

That sounds impossible on the face of it.

Record it with a cam and still in there ? Hm. Improbable.