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Old 09-15-2008, 10:34 AM   #1
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Porn industry will also take a beating;(

Because of the financial turmoil, People with CC will be declining & banks will have stricter rules when applying for a CC. Now, how do you want people to buy porn if they don't have CC or their actual cards of fuckin maxed out & also are declaring bankruptcy. Im no fuckin financial wizard but seems porn will suffer also.

What do you guys think about this?
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Old 09-15-2008, 10:40 AM   #2
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food, alchohol and sex will always sell, even if the person doesnt have the money for it they will find the money to get it
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Old 09-15-2008, 10:45 AM   #3
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food, alchohol and sex will always sell, even if the person doesnt have the money for it they will find the money to get it
you forgot rock n roll & drugs
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Old 09-15-2008, 10:46 AM   #4
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food, alchohol and sex will always sell, even if the person doesnt have the money for it they will find the money to get it
But thats his point. You can buy booz and escorts with cash but online porn?


going to be a slow down.

Magazines will see more sales.
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Old 09-15-2008, 10:49 AM   #5
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food, alchohol and sex will always sell, even if the person doesnt have the money for it they will find the money to get it
very true...
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Old 09-15-2008, 10:52 AM   #6
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food, alchohol and sex will always sell, even if the person doesnt have the money for it they will find the money to get it
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very true...
We are talking about something intangible & needing a CC, meaning online porn
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Old 09-15-2008, 11:19 AM   #8
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food, alchohol and sex will always sell, even if the person doesnt have the money for it they will find the money to get it

sex - sure, good to know if you're pimp, but online we are double fucked - no spare cash in so many pockets + free porn everywhere, why would anyone pay?



btw Sep 1-15 - my worst pay period in probably 5 years, I hope you guys are doing better
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Old 09-15-2008, 11:23 AM   #9
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btw Sep 1-15 - my worst pay period in probably 5 years, I hope you guys are doing better
If they say they are, they dont make enough to know what they are talking about anyways.
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Old 09-15-2008, 11:30 AM   #10
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I copied this comment from cnn, pretty straight forward:

I live on a fixed income. My house was forclosed in 2005 losing house and contents too. My reaction was a serious nervous breakdown requiring six weeks of hospitalization. It was the sadest period of my life. Although now I live with just the basic fundamentals, every month is a financial struggle for me. As Americans, the current economic situation is rapidly approaching our "generation's great depression". Society's excesses have produced a crisis not seen since the 1920's. The next president will be faced with a myriad of problems last faced by FDR. The fact is it will take magnificent skills, cooperation and concentrated efforts to pull us through the BIG ONE.
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Old 09-15-2008, 11:35 AM   #11
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porn online is a luxury...but its also value, people will always find a way to pay for porn. anything that falls in the category of a luxury want will take a hit, there is no denying this.

this day in age safer bets and markets are sex and war (defense, engineering, etc), anything that has to do with either
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Old 09-15-2008, 11:39 AM   #12
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The key problem is FREE product. Period.
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Old 09-15-2008, 12:03 PM   #13
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You don't need a credit card to buy porn. In fact much of the decline in rebills can be traced back to the use of debit cards and online banking. People are simply more aware now than before of charges as they happen.
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Old 09-15-2008, 12:05 PM   #14
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In fact much of the decline in rebills can be traced back to the use of debit cards and online banking.
what decline in rebills? I havent noticed any with my sites, but I have noticed a decline in sales.
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I have a friend with a amex card a credit one. They lowered his credit line because of who his mortgage is with.They said people with that lender more likely to default. I think the key will be focusing more on European markets. They only made up 25% of my business Im working hard on growing that.
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Old 09-15-2008, 12:15 PM   #16
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The big things always take the first hits. People stop buying big screen TVs, cars and things like that. Then comes vacations. They still go on vacation, but instead of taking the family to Disneyworld and spending 5K+ doing so they go to a local amusement park or go camping or something like that. People also start going out to dinner a little less and the larger luxuries are cut back on. Porn is like regular movies, music and books. We are a pretty cheap form of entertainment so we are typically among the last things to go. I'm not saying we won't be taking a hit, but I think things would have to get much worse than they are for it to really start effecting us.
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Old 09-15-2008, 12:17 PM   #17
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If you ask me, there will always be a demand regarding surfers buying online porn but if it does take any type of blow, we will just have to work that much harder.

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Use Sms Billing like they do over here. Dont know if you guys get pay as you go mobile phones over in the USA. But a lot of peeps over here have them. So they can go into a shop and buy airtime using cash then go and spend it on games and porn on the net
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A lot of stupid comments in this thread. The bottom line is Online Porn is a Luxury from which all this stuff hurts sales.
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Old 09-15-2008, 12:24 PM   #20
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what decline in rebills? I havent noticed any with my sites, but I have noticed a decline in sales.
Thats exactly what I found in the last two weeks. Rebills are staying strong but my ratios are way out of whack. 1:2000 and 1:3000 for two sponsors I usually do 1:900ish. Today is a good day though double my avg.
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Old 09-15-2008, 12:26 PM   #21
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I predict a rise in ACH transaction.
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Old 09-15-2008, 12:29 PM   #22
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I think it means the tube sites will get even bigger. Since people really dont need to buy porn now. Sure if you wanted a certain girl or high res videos. But r-e-d-tube and y-o=u porn get the job done. None of my friends have memberships anymore they all say why when its free.

Also people will cut back on porn spending, but I think the higher gas prices have hurt us more then anything lately.

In regards to how people pay, most people have a visa/mastercard debit card from their bank so thats just like having cash.
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A lot of stupid comments in this thread. The bottom line is Online Porn is a Luxury from which all this stuff hurts sales.
I agree. Anyone who is saying porn is a must have product is just stupid.
You just hold up your wanks and just release yourself after a week to the countless free porn on the net.
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Old 09-15-2008, 12:34 PM   #24
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food, alchohol and sex will always sell, even if the person doesnt have the money for it they will find the money to get it
Exactly right on all accounts.

For those of us who've been around a decade or more. There HAVE been other mad financial times.

People will always find a way to pay for their porn, booze, and broads.

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I have a friend with a amex card a credit one. They lowered his credit line because of who his mortgage is with.They said people with that lender more likely to default. I think the key will be focusing more on European markets. They only made up 25% of my business Im working hard on growing that.
They have always made up more of my sales than USA. Always.

Celebrity, toe porn, tickling. They are no longer 65-70%, but I would bet they make up about half even now.
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I smile just a little when I see people moaning about the adult industry taking a hit turning an economic downturn.

Why?

Because I don't keep all my eggs in one basket.

Although our revenues are still healthy and lucrative and worth the effort to maintain, I don't rely heavily on our paysite incomes. The second job provides a comfort buffer.
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They dont need a Credit Card to Get Porn Online Its all Free check out any PornTube
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If they say they are, they dont make enough to know what they are talking about anyways.
the sky is falling and you are so correct.. I'll let you believe that instead of wasting my time trying to prove you wrong.

I can tell you the more time I spend reading gfy the more depressed I get about making sales and working.. but the last month I told myself fuck all this bullshit I've been reading and instead just worked my ass off, I am making double what I'm used to.
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Internet Porn is not any like sex, drugs, or alcohol. It's Porn, and it is not recession proof when it comes to online porn. The Internet is not recession proof just like Cable Companies aren't recession proof.

If we end up having a real recession, credit cards will be a luxury and taken away from people, mad caps put on them. If these same people don't have cards to pay things on, that means it all comes out of the bank account, making even less money for online porn and making it much harder to pay for it.

And again, if times are bad for people, they don't have Internet Access. A man that has lost his house or job, is having problems putting food on the table, isn't thinking about the next time he can jack off online, he can't even get online.
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free products are to blame for this.
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People are going to simply start to see paying for porn as a luxury they can't afford so will either settle for what they have or find a way to get free porn. The credit crunch is bad for paysites but now could be a good time to start hunting down those people that steal your content so that you can sue them into bankruptcy
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